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flight, an air canada flight, arrived in that very terminal on a flight from alaska earlier today, that he waited for his luggage along with the other passengers on that flight, that he retrieved his bags where he had checked firearms. these are firearms that you can legally check with the airline. and he legally was able to do that. he went to a bathroom, retrieved the firearm and came back out and started shooting. according to the initial investigations, it doesn t appear that he was targeting anyone in particular. he appeared to be shooting ram donnelly. there was no rym or reason to the shooting. but it appears that a lot of the people who he would have shot and some of the people that were killed might have been some of the passengers that were on this flight. again, he came on a flight, an air canada flight we re told, that came from alaska and landed earlier at ft. lauderdale international airport. again, this is a twist on something we ve never seen before. again, we ve seen shootings at airports where people come from outside the airport with
firearms. you don t normally see somebody coming from an aircraft that s gone through security, again, with secured luggage. and then retrieving a firearm. this is not something that we ve seen before. again, this is still early in the investigation. there s still a lot of witnesses to be interviewed. there s surveillance camera footage to look at to see exactly how long this took. we don t know everything about his movements. again he appeared to arrive on this flight and then started shooting once he emerged from the bathroom. evan perez, stay there. i know you ll continue to speak to law enforcement sources here in washington. i want to go to cnn s boris sanchez, he is live at ft. lauderdale/hollywood international airport. i know that just after the shooting, there was a great deal of confusion and fear at the airport. we saw pictures of people after the gunman was taken, still running in fear. but now police are saying they re confident there was just a lone gunman here. that s right, jim. we actually heard from the
broward county sheriff about 20 to 30 minutes ago and he told us that reports of a second shooter were unsubstantiated, they were simply rumors. we heard people screaming and running shortly after we saw a group of about six armed and heavily armed uniformed officers running across from terminal 2. this is terminal 2, this is where the shooting happened. this is the second floor. the shooting happened on the lower level in baggage claim. we saw the officers running across into these parking garages here and that s what really kicked off just panic here. there were people running in all directions from terminal 2 on to the runways from terminal 1, down here to where we re standing now, and then on to the runways. it was sheer chaos. things are much calmer now, but as the sheriff of broward county said earlier, this is still a fluid situation. officers from just about every jurisdiction and the southeastern part of florida are here. there are helicopters in the air, tactical vehicles as you saw a moment ago driving around. this is still an ongoing
investigation. as you said, and as you heard from evan earlier, it appears that the shooter in this case arrived on an air canada flight, terminal 2 is the delta and air canada terminal, and then he apparently, sources say, went into the rest room, retrieved a weapon from his bag, and opened fire, killing at least five people, eight others were rushed to the hospital. there s no word yet on a motive. we understand that the shooter was put into custody without incident. he s being questioned as you said by local and federal investigators. one interesting point to note, especially because we saw so many officers go into these parking garages, i asked the broward county sheriff if, perhaps, they had identified a vehicle here at the ft. lauderdale airport that might belong to the shooter. he told me that at the time we were speaking to him he did not have a vehicle that belonged to the shooter that they were able to identify. again, this is a very delicate situation. still there are hundreds of people that are stranded. i believe we actually have one here now. sir, nice to meet you. nice to meet you.
hear the initial shots. i heard the commotion. i was actually i just had back surgery and i was in a wheelchair and just had gotten through security so i saw the commotion and heard the people. i thought maybe just a fight or something had broken out at security. i actually was at the first gate that the wheelchair stopped at and got a call from my mom saying, what s going on. and i had no idea. i just heard the screaming. and not five minutes later, people came running down the hall screaming gun, gunman was coming. so everybody, you know, ran and luggage flying, purses flying, and i can t move very fast because of my surgery so i got up and started hobbling and all the restaurants were closing their cages and getting people into hiding places and a woman frozen kind of in the middle of the hallway and her child made it into the gate, so i took her into a corridor. we were stuck in that corridor about the last 45 minutes or so
and then escorted out with guys with long guns and moved us away from the glass. so it does sound like maybe it was an unsubstantiated second threat. but people certainly weren t acting like it. ryan, it must have been horribly frightening for you, particularly you re injured. were people coming to your aid? what was the response from law enforcement and others inside the airport as this was happening? you know, a lot of confusion at first because people were aware that something has happened adjacent to us, but once everybody started running, i have to say the jetblue personnel, which is what i was flying, were great and the cops that came in initially the broward county sheriff local guys, they were great. i mean, since i was kind of stuck in a corridor with a woman who was frozen in fear, they just kind of guarded us on either side and stood there. and then like i said, finally escorted us out once some guys
with long guns came in and they were homeland security guys, fbi, and now escorted us outside and kept us away from the windows. still see a lot of helicopters, lot of action but it seems to be calming down, but they definitely are still riding by with on the trunk of the cars with long guns out. so definitely not giving us the clear. in the midst of it i m told you shielded a child? there was a during the chaos? actually it was his mom. the child sat about ten feet from her and i handed the child to the chile s employee that was closing the gate quickly so they could hide and i ran back over, pushed the mom into a corner and laid on top of her. i m a big guy, so it was easy to cover her up. she was frozen. ryan, i m sorry you had to experience this, for anybody who went through this firsthand, but thank you for the help that you gave to others in need there. we appreciate it. i want to bring in the national
security analyst julia kayyem, former assistant secretary for homeland security and phil mudd, a former cry counter terror aficial, tom fuentes, assistant fbi director with me here in washington. tom, a couple of things i would like to run by you in light of your experience. one, if you want to find a police with a big police presence it s, of course, america s airports today. this shooter struck in one of the least protected areas, in baggage claim, outside the security perimeter. baggage claim is open because people are arriving and may have luggage checked in. family members and others help them. they drive up and park, go to baggage claim, help them carry their stuff out. so yeah, they don t go through magna tumors to get in. you can have a threat from outside the airport easily or true in this case, if he had a
gun in checked luggage, he can hide in a bathroom and go out on the sidewalk and come back in and begin shooting if that s what actually happened. julia kayyem, this is a situation, rare, that you have the shooter taken in custody unharmed. eyewitnesss have said that after firing these shots, he, in effect, laid down on the ground and waited to be taken. police able to take thhim, they say, with no shots fired. how unusual is that in your experience? it s very unusual for a preplanned attack. normally if this was something he flew across the country, at least from our understanding, you know, from alaska to florida, with a plan on doing this attack, you would think that his exit strategy was either to get out of the airport or to be killed. so this is very rare. so the other theory talking to law enforcement agents right now that i m hearing, the other theory is that something happened at the airport that triggered this, an altercation
or something in baggage claim. those would be the only two theories, he didn t plan it, but he happened to have guns, or that the guns were, you know, sort of on the airplane and he planned to do this. because the rarity of getting someone who just sit downs and says here, take me away, has to be explained somehow and so those are the two theories of the case that investigators are looking at right now. and the suspect being questioned now. phil mudd if i can draw on your experience, i m told by officials that he had possible mental health issues, but, of course, it s early. the department of homeland security telling us there was no known motive at this time. tell us, if you can, the kinds of questions, the kinds of work investigators are doing now to figure out why he did this? first of all, i wouldn t be asking the question why at the moment. the first question is who. is there anybody else involved. was there a co-conspirator. if he s not mentally stable my first questions would be where are his friends, family,
associates, does he have social media accounts that might suggest he was communicating to somebody about an attack. after that, i might get into motive. why did you do this. was it just a random act of violence. i m with juliette. this is odd you would bother to go across the country and buy a ticket to engage in a shooting incident at an airport against civilians whom you don t know. if you wanted to kill people why wouldn t you do it at the point of origin. a lot of unanswered questions. the first one, is there a single other person out there. that takes a while to figure that one out. tom, it is a way, though, to get a gun into an airport, is it not? put it in your checked baggage, legally check it, declare it, and when you pick it up you have a gun in an airport. i suppose you could walk into the baggage area as well because that s a place where, you know, there might be police around but you don t have to walk through metal detectors. hundreds of people travel legitimately with their firearms to go on a hunting trip or off-duty law enforcement or other military that may have weapons and check them in.
there s procedures each airline has. tsa has for checking in a secure manner a firearm in your luggage, you know, making sure it has the right lock box and ammunition. the main issue is that firearm is not in the cabin. they re not in position to hijack the aircraft. when the plane lands they recover their luggage at baggage claim and once again they re reunited with their firearm. so yes, they could shoot on the front end of that through the detectors or ticket counter or on the back end when they recover it at the destination airport. julie ya kayyem, this is not the first time we ve seen shootings or terror attacks in that unsecured part of airports, remember look back at the istanbul attack a number of months ago in that area and the check-in area, outside of the security corridor, whenever that happens there s discussion why don t authorities move that cordon out further, right.
is that something that homeland security has considered at various times and if so, why hasn t that step been take? well, it has been considered, but just to make it clear, so wherever you put the zone of security, there is going to be a zone of insecurity right next to it. you can move it out ten miles from the airport. mile 10.01 there will be insecurity. and the other aspect to this is, we are a global economy, global aviation. if you put too much security on any of these airports, you will i mean basically you re going to impede the movement of people and things. millions of people a day domestically fly and you re constantly weighing the challenge of security and flow. what we do see and i just, you know, to sort of say this looks like chaos, you know, look, sometimes there s organized chaos. this looks exactly how you would want it to look from a homeland security and public safety perspective. active shooter case you want
people to flee. you don t want them to stay put. you have them shelter in place to ensure things are good. it looks bad but this is the way you want it to work because you want to protect people. you will never make the airports perfectly secure. a lot of it has to do with weapons and the achlts of weapons that are out there and so we shouldn t believe that if only we put the security, you know, further back everything would be okay. there s more we can do to protect these unsecured areas, but at some stage you will have an insecure area. juliette, tom, fim, stay there. we re continuing to follow this story and we will come right back to this breaking story. but first more breaking news. this is cnn breaking news. as i said, we have more breaking news on a separate story. one we ve been following for some time. the government has just released the declassified intelligence report blaming russia for cyber attacks during the 2016
presidential race. this has been a great deal of anticipation for this for some time. and i just want to draw your attention to a few headlines from this. it says that vladimir putin aspired to help donald trump win the election. that, the judgment of the u.s. intelligence community. i want to go to cnn s pamela brown who has the report. pamela, reading these pages here, first of all they make clear at the top, you know, that this is intelligence, it s classified, we can t lift the veil on everything, but we will in effect tell you as much as we can. that stood out to me. we assess that putin and the russian government aspired to help president-elect donald trump s election chances here. what other headlines come out at you from this report? well, it talks about the range of motivations here and as you point out, this report does not mince words. it comes out and says we believe vladimir putin med led in the election process and tried to hurt hillary clinton and help donald trump. it listed a few reasons why.
one of which putin publicly pointed to the panama papers disclosure and the olympic doping scandals as ways that the united states was trying to undermine russia and so in the view of the u.s. intelligence, putin wanted to do this to get back at the united states. it says, he sought to use disclosures to discredit the image of the united states and cast it as hypocritical and it talks about why he wanted to undermine hillary clinton, saying he most likely wanted to discredit secretary clinton because he has publicly blamed her since 2011 for inciting mass protests against his regime in late 2011 and early 2012 and because he holds a grudge, he almost certainly saw disparaging against him. it talks about why the u.s. believes he tried to help donald trump. it says moscow saw the election of president-elect trump as a way to achieve an international counterterrorism coalition against the islamic state in iraq and it goes on to explain
how the united states came to this conclusion. it says, we assess with high confidence that russian military intelligence, general staff main directorate, used the 2.0 persona and d.c. leaks.com as a way to release u.s. victim data. it says back in march that the military intelligence services stole these e-mails that we know were leaked from the dnc as well as john podesta, the clinton campaign chairman, and used this forum, the dcleaks.com and wikileaks in order to have the effect that the united states says russia wanted, which was to med dle in the process and help donald trump. it talked about the trolling operations, jim, and says it traced the likely financier of the so-called internet research agency, located in st. petersburg, russia, as a close putin ally with ties to russian intelligence.
these are the troll operations that were apparently pushing out fake news. you heard james clapper say in that hearing yesterday that the russians were responsible for pushing out fake news against hillary clinton and the report says that is continuing to help this day and to expect more of this type of behavior from russia in the future. it also makes the point, i think this is important to emphasize and you heard this in donald trump s statement, there was no indication that the russians compromised or got involved in vote tallying. it said while the russian actors targeted multiple state or local electoral boards as we have been reporting, there s no indication that the russians got in there and actually messed with the vote tallies. jim? well, it s interesting that you make those points this was a comprehensive information operation. not just the attacks on the dnc, but also fake news, all intended it seems to sow doubt about the election. they made the point that the targets included associated with both major u.s. political
parties. pamela brown, thanks very much. i want to bring in now california congressman adam schiff, the top democrat on the house intelligence committee. thanks very much for joining us this afternoon. you bet. good to be with you. so you have the advantage, of course, of having seen the classified version of this report as well, but without delving into the classified, now that this is public, what do you find the most convincing evidence to back up the intelligence community s assessment here? well, jim, the evidence is really what comprises the classified version and unfortunately i can t go into, obviously, paramount importance is protecting our sources and methods. i m sure the russians would like to know how we know the contents of what s been released publicly. i will say i ve been on the committee almost ten years. this is about as iron clad a case as i ve seen on any major issue. i think the intelligence agencies really did great work here and i think those findings are well documented and supported and i hope their presentation today to donald trump will cause him to change
his tune about this because i think the facts are really undeniable. now, adam schiff, we have donald trump s statement, that followed his briefing earlier this afternoon we re told went for an hour meeting with top intelligence officials. in the statement, he doesn t say explicitly yes, russia hacked the election. he said while russia, china and other countries, outside groups and people are consistently trying to break through, he goes on to say, there was absolutely no effect on the outcome of the election. seeing donald trump s response so far, in your view, is that sufficient? i m glad you raised that statement. no, it isn t. in fact, that statement is demonstrably false. the report did not go into whether this russian action changed the outcome of the election. in other words, had the determinative impact on the election. that s beyond the scope of what the intelligence agencies look at. the fact that there was no evidence of tampering with machines, doesn t mean that it didn t influence the outcome of the election as donald trump has
said in his statement. in fact, quite the contrary. the daily dumping of damaging material to secretary clinton was enormously consequential in terms of her campaign, was enormously beneficial to donald trump and to ignore that, or to say it didn t happen, i think is quite inaccurate. and all of this was, of course, enabled by the russian cyber operations. let me ask you this, because you have been pushing for action on this for some time. the obama administration has come under criticism from republicans certainly, but also from democrats, for not acting earlier. because it was a month before the election when the intelligence community as you know expressed publicly they had confidence russia was attempting to hack and influence the election with a focus on dmtsic party. do you believe democratic party. do you believe the obama administration waited too long to act on this intelligence? i do believe they waited too long to act and this was point that senator feinstein and i
made when we released our own statement about the russian involvement in the elections even before the intelligence community did. nonetheless that doesn t let either the russians off the hook or anyone else and it certainly doesn t mean that democrats and republicans shouldn t come together right now to develop all the counter measures we need to confront this russian covert influence operation in the united states and in europe, and i think we need to develop stronger sanctions against russia on what they did already if we re going to have any hope of deterring them in the future. i think it s save to say looking at donald trump s statements so far it s not exactly a fulsome endorsement of the intelligence community s assessment and as you know, up until this morning, he was disparaging the intelligence and as you know as well, had he s also called into question the capabilities of the u.s. intelligence community. from your perspective what do you what does the american public need to hear from president-elect donald trump now after those expressions of doubts? well, what s really missing
from the president-elect statements today is, not just he had a good meeting with intelligence officials, but that he has looked at the evidence he looked at it now in detail, he knows the sources of that evidence, and he has convinced he is convinced the russians did this and there is going to be a price to pay for, he applauds the measures president obama took and we ought to do more and we re going to prevent russia from ever interfering in our elections in this way again. he hopes to have a different relationship with russia, that s fine, but he cannot continue to deny what has taken place and that is i think what he ought to be saying to the american people. congressman adam schiff, thanks very much. thanks, jim. i want to bring in now former california congresswoman jane harmon who served on the house intelligence committee and now president of the wilson center. jane harman, thanks for joining. you know intelligence matters very well. in your experience, have you seen the intelligence community lift the veil to the extent it has on its assessment that
russia hacked the election? i think this is unprecedented, and add to that, that yesterday, the senate armed services committee really on a unanimous basis, aligned itself with the intelligence community evidence that this was clearly a hack. it s not just a hack of this election in 2016, but it goes back a decade according to the portions of the report i ve been able to read. that s three presidential elections. and it also, let s add in france and germany, as other targets of russia. most people think that where vladimir putin goes next is angela merkel to destabilize the last of the old generation of leadership in europe. so, with these tools, unfettered, russia uses offensive cyber to basically, as i see it, undermine democracy in the world. it s very serious. and i applaud trump s statement. i heard adam schiff, who now
holds the position i did for some years on the intelligence committee, but i applaud donald trump for moving in the right direction and hopefully he will move further. just one last comment, jim, as we watch these events in ft. lauderdale unfold, it should remind all of us how important it is to have seamless, connected intelligence. maybe we could not have found this particular person, but when you look at how this overlay of law enforcement and other response is coming together, lots of this has to do with the corrective actions we took in congress after 9/11. we re much better prepared. you make a good point there. again we don t know the motivations of the shooter in florida, it s too early but that s essentially the intelligence community s job is to find intelligence, prevent bad things before they happen. i want to quote from donald trump s statement the final graph here, he says that we need to aggressively combat and stop cyber attacks. i will appoint a team to give me a plan within 90 days of taking office. if you were advising the
president and his team, what steps would you advise them to take urgently? i know many republicans are calling for more severe sanctions than president obama imposed. what would you recommend? well a strong response against russia, even stronger than president obama s, is the first thing i would do. but you have to be careful. if we get into a tit for tat and we do something aggressive against russia in the nature that they did against us, we re ratcheting up danger to us. i don t know that that s where we go. some of this could not doesn t have to be public. i do agree with donald trump that not every move needs to be advertised. that would be number one. number two, i would encourage everyone in america to use the strictest cyber hygiene. a lot of this could have been prevented at the dnc if they had had better hygiene. i know at the wilson center, a think tank, understand that think tanks are targets, we have very strict cyber hygiene now and we train our people on it. if they can prevent this stuff
from coming in to the dotcom space and we can do better in preventing it coming into the.gov, and we re doing a better job of that, that s another defense that the trump administration ought to roll out as fast as possible. congresswoman jane harman, thanks very much. thank you, jim. i want to return now to our other big breaking news story this hour, a mass shooting at ft. lauderdale airport. five people are dead. eight others are wounded. the airport remains shut down. the suspect, however, is in custody. and sources tell cnn he had a weapon in his checked bag, which he retrieved when he arrived there at ft. lauderdale. i want to bring back cnn justice correspondent pamela brown, she has new information on the shooter. what are we learning? we re learning, jim, investigators are looking into a possible altercation on the plane that the suspect was on from an core rage, alaska, to
florida. there are been claims by witnesses, by some of those on the plane, that the suspect esteban santiago got into some sort of altercation on the plane with other passengers, and as we know, after he got off of that plane there in ft. lauderdale, he went into his checked bag, once it came through baggage claim, pulled out the gun that apparently he had filled out paperwork and declared before, and then opened fire, killing five people. we are still trying to get more information about this altercation and, of course, investigators, want to verify it. oftentimes as you know there are witness accounts, they want to corroborate that. the initial reports are that investigators are looking into this possible altercation between the suspect and passengers as a possible motive there for the shooting and in baggage claim at the ft. lauderdale airport. pamela, that would be enormously important, because it would imply, we want to caution our viewers these are early reports and facts, not conclusive at this point, it would be an indicator this was
not previously planned. right? right. that it was more spontaneous, perhaps, a reaction to what happened on the flight? and that s exactly what investigators are looking at because, of course, when anything like this happens you want to figure out is this terrorism or some other motive at play here, some sort of issue, and so that is why this is a critical piece of evidence that investigators are looking at or claim i should say from the witnesses, this possible altercation may be one of the reasons, as you point out, sometimes there s multiple factors, but one of the reasons at least why he got off that plane and went into his checked bag and pulled that gun. we also are learning today, jim, that the suspect apparently was in the military. we know we heard from senator nelson earlier he had a military i.d. they were trying to verify the authenticity and we are told from our sources that, in fact, he was in the army. no criminal record we re told. we re trying to piece together more about the suspect or more about him, and that s the very late west he know right now. pamela brown, thank you very
much. law enforcement officials saying there was some sort of altercation with the suspected shooter on the flight and after that altercation he went and retrieved the when and fired in the bag am area. i want to bring back julia kayyem, phil mudd and with me in washington cnn law enforcement analyst tom fuentes. with that new information, tom fuentes, possible altercation on the flight, what does that tell you at this stage. at this point we don t know who he was having an argument with. did he know them before. is this a group of people who were already friends or went hunting together or something and had a previous argument, continued on the plane with each other and then he continues it afterward when he has the firearm, or are they complete strangers and argued about overhead bin space or some other issue on the plane. so that will be determined hopefully pretty soon by the fbi and police that are doing the interviews of him as well as the passenger witnesses as to and the victims who he was arguing
with. why were you arguing. what was the cause of that. julewel julia kayyem, airpor are tense places, it can be a tense time. that is an argument for not allowing people to even check weapons when they travel? well, it will be very difficult. people carry weapons for a variety of reasons, hunting trips, or they re moving and need to move their lawful weaponry and so i think the clear thing that we re all picking up on now, it s still undetermined whether he entered the flight with the intention to do this in ft. lauderdale or if something triggered him. and look, something could trigger anyone in an airport and they could be armed even if they weren t a passenger and just come in through baggage claim. so we have a lot more to determine at this stage, but i have to say, the protocols for putting guns in checked baggage are pretty strict. you have to show that the gun is
lawfully yours, it can t, of course, be loaded, you have to fill out forms and that s actually part of the security process that someone like me never worried that much about and we just have to determine whether this was someone who used a potential loophole to attack an airport or actually was someone this could have happened anywhere. he s deranged or has mental issues and used a gun in his possession to kill people at an airport. to be clear, you may know this or tom, you can check both a weapon and ammunition? yes. tom fuentes shaking his head yes. yes. if you re going on a hunting trip you will have both with you when you arrive at the destination. the fact that he s coming from alaska might be why he was there. we don t know. that s exactly what i was going to pick up on. hundreds of thousands of law enforcement personnel who often travel with their weaponry. you have to fill something out. it s a protocol under the faa and tsa. you have to fill something out. you can t just do it. nonetheless it s a common procedure for people who own
guns. phil, phil mudd, i know i m asking you this with a handicap because it s early, i m just asking you in light of your experience as a profiler, you look at this person here, altercation on the flight, carrying a weapon, but also other things like shooting and killing, and then laying down, letting himself be arrested, as you look at that early and incomplete picture what do you take away? as somebody in the counter terrorism business let me take you behind the door for a moment. the first thing people in my business think about they hope it s not terrorism. you know, in some ways if you have to rank incidents of tragedy and violence in this country, as soon as you get an incidence of terrorism you re saying who organized this is there an immigration issue, connection to isis. if we have someone that stepped off the plane, what i see in the initial stages of this, is an individual who doesn t show the characteristics of the people i used to worry about when i chased terrorism. we talked about, for example, lying down on the floor.
the people i chased typically would want to have enough ammunition so they went down in a fire fight with law enforcement. that was not a suicide operation. that for them was a martyr dom operation. i look at this and say i think we might come to a conclusion over the next hours it was just one of those tragedies where you say i m not sure there s anything you can do. and just for the sake of our viewers, that word terrorism there. we don t have any evidence yet and no official has told me at this point. the official word we re hearing from multiple sources is no known motive at this point although the newest information there was an altercation on the flight could be indicative. i would like to make a distinction. we haven t seen this because we re always broadcasting about terrorism events and jihadist events typically they re not taken alive. state and local police will tell you, i was a street cop six years, there are plane situations police arrive, someone has shot their family dead, thrown the gun down and surrendered or committed in
other serious crime with a firearm and when police arrive they surrender. so it s not uncommon in general circles even if we think it s uncommon in our circles. julia kayyem, as we re looking at this as well, what are the missing pieces at this point that you ll be looking for? the unanswered questions? well, during the press conference i thought it was interesting and this just having seen so many of these, the extent to which they are going to shut down the entire airport. that s, you know, that s better safe than sorry at this stage. they need to reopen it relatively soon. it s a major airport. and the faa and it tsa are working as we ve heard already to divert everything. you will start to see a slow reopening of different terminals. that s part of the protocol. the unanswered questions i have is just the basic one, is essentially was this a cross-country from alaska to florida flight which seems less likely to me or an altercation where he happened to have a gun.
we don t know much about the assailant at this stage so we want to learn more. i have confidence that they believe, that the officials, just based on the press conference, they believe it s an individual assailant who got triggered by something only because they seemed quite confident and they wouldn t be, that the imminent threat was now over. juliette, phil, tom, stay there for a moment pap back to the scene of this shooting rampage, ft. lauderdale/hollywood international airport. boris sanchez is live just outside. boris, what are you seeing in the last few minutes from your vantage point there? jim, we re just waiting for a press briefing from the governor of florida, rick scott, set to start in about ten minutes or so. we ve seen several helicopters circling overhead. broward county sheriff s and others. as we heard from the sheriff of broward county, about an hour or so ago, this is still a fluid scene. it does seem, obviously, like
it s way more under control than it was just a few hours ago. they just put up that yellow tape. we re seeing a very large law enforcement presence from all over the southeast part of florida here. the difficulty now is in canvassing all the passengers and people that are still here on the scene. there are several hundred people that can t go anywhere because the airport is shut down. and as you can see behind me this is terminal 2, this is where the shooting took place on the lower level in the baggage claim area. this is an air canada and delta terminal. and just to give you an idea this is the second floor, this is where the de par tours leave. the lower floor, the baggage claim area where the shooting happened is the arrivals. still, so much to piece together in this. one thing i did want to point out i asked the sheriff of broward county perhaps they identified a vehicle belonging to the shooter here at ft. lauderdale international airport. he told me they had not. we did see a large group of officials heavily armed going
through the parking structure, so we were he still trying to figure out exactly what details might give us an idea of what was going through the shooter s mind and if this was something that was planned or if he was responding to an altercation on the plane as some of our sources have been saying. boris sanchez on the scene. joining me on the telephone is senator marco rubio of florida. senator rubio, thank you very much for taking the time. thank you. thanks for having me on. a terrible situation. our thoughts with you. a tragedy in your home state. if i can begin, can you tell us if there s any uptated information on the shooting? what can you tell us? well, i want to be very cautious about what we share because i think it s a fluid situation. i think you ve already probably reported the name of the assailant, i think you ve reported. there are still some questions whether it s clear he was an inbound passenger. that seems to be some confusion as of 15 minutes ago still among the agencies about whether he was inbound on an international flight or domestic flight but
from outside the continental united states. i think, obviously, the other thing that s going on and you re probably seeing images of it, is they re just trying to make sure this thing is finished. there s always this concern if it were some sort of coordinated incident you would have one attack to draw in first responders and law enforcement and the secondary attack to target them. we know those are tactics that have been discussed in the past. that s part of what you re watching. then it goes to preserving evidence because if, in fact, this turns out to be a domestic prosecution they have to be able to prove it in court. so all of that is going on simultaneously. even as they are trying to run as much information as they can about this individual across data bases to try to begin to piece together what happened here. are you seeing any information, any indication, this was a coordinated attack, beyond a lone gunman? no. as of now, nor have any of the agencies indicated they suspect it. they ve got to rule all of that out. they will take every precaution
on the ground. our immediate interactions with the fbi concluded that while their involvement because of the investigative capability and because it involves abation there could be aviation there could be federal criminal violations here, in fact there no doubt is, they do not at least initially see this as some sort of an act of terrorism in terms of what we normally associate with terrorizing. as of this moment anyway that s not the way they re approaching it. i m not sure they ve ruled that out. they have to gather information. we know throughout as we ask you these questions, it s early, the picture incomplete. we re hearing from law enforcement sources here in washington that this passenger had witnesses say he had some sort of altercation on the flight before he then retrieved his weapon from his bags and then carried out his shooting. are law enforcement sources there telling you any more about that? whether they believe that was the motivation? well, i m not prepared to say
that was the motivation. i know that was mentioned as a potential cause and they wanted to kind of look into that a little further and get to that point. i think what they ll probably be troubled by the attack did not seem targeted at specific individual, but rather just kind of widespread across the baggage claim area. but that was, in fact, one of the potential causes that was brought up among several others. but we re not trying to be evasive. i certainly am not. truly they don t know. just a few hours removed from this happening and they have to piece all of this together before they know more. one of the things that s unusual about it is, if you wanted to shoot up the baggage claim area of any airport in america you don t have to fly there on an airplane, check it in your bag and wait for the bag to come out. you can just drive up, walk in and do it. so i think that s putting some doubt in their minds about premeditation in terms of that being a specific target. but again, we ll learn more, i
imagine, over the next few hours and days. we know the name or multiple sources have told us the name esteban santiago. we re also told that he had a military i.d. on his person. i m curious if you know any more about his background? for instance, whether he was an active or former military service member? no. i can tell you that is the name, the name that i ve heard from multiple sources now and the military i.d. component. i did ask the question whether it was an active military i.d. and they didn t have the answer at the moment. i asked local law enforcement, the first to kind of move on that front in terms of identification. my understanding he is in custody and injured, so i imagine he s been transported to a medical facility. i don t have any more. i would say one thing the name, if you ran that name on just a public data base, obviously, without knowing more about who it was that s not an uncommon name. esteban is not an uncommon name.
spanish. and santiago is not an uncommon name. it s not garcia or perez but it s not uncommon. i imagine they re trying to make sure they have the right person. through that i think the passenger manifest from the airline is probably brought into some high level certainty at this point. as of now there s nothing in what they know about this individual that has led them to change any of the assumptions that i ve outlined to you earlier here in this conversation. well, senator rubio, we thank you for taking the time and we re sorry that you and your state have to have experience violence like this. well just know that our thoughts and prayers are with the families of those that have lost their lives and several others that have been severely injured and as a result of this attack and we pray for them and hope that they will be able to make a full recovery. no question. we ll be thinking of them as well. senator rubio, thanks very much. thank you. i want to go to cnn aviation correspondent rene marsh. rene marsh, can you tell us what you re learning most recently
about the shooter and the investigation so far? well, just to reset, jim. we know the name of the shooter is esteban santiago as you ve been mentioning there. he flew from alaska to florida. we do know, again, that gun was checked in his checked luggage. he had declared that weapon. and then he retrieved that weapon and that s when he opened fire after getting off of his flight. now, you know, many people may not realize, but he went about this all very legally. tsa rules are very clear, they state what the rules are for carrying a gun on board. you can legally carry a weapon as well as ammunition only in your checked luggage. you cannot carry that in your carry-on luggage. that s exactly what this individual did. however, when you do carry it in your checked luggage, it has to be unloaded. it has to be in a hard, locked case. and again, you have to declare
it to the airline at that ticket counter. so to our knowledge, this traveler, esteban santiago, did all of those things and he did all of those things very legally. however, you have a problem which we ve talked about time and time again, with these airports, we saw it happen in istanbul where you have the soft targets of the airport that essentially if you talk to any law enforcement official, it really is virtually impossible to get the vulnerability down to zero. anyone will tell you that. and so this particular area where he opened fire, the baggage claim area, of the airport, wit yit was not by the checkpoint that is considered the soft target and he essentially took advantage of that and that is why we are where we are where the latest numbers are that five people had been shot dead an and we do know
eight were transported to the hospital. to be clear we re showing live pictures there. we continue to see police activity on the tarmac. even on some of the highways leading into the airport terminal there, blocking traffic, et cetera. but also to be clear, a little less than an hour ago, police said they believe there is no active shooter still present, that it looks like this shooter who is in custody acted alone. have they changed that assessment? are they still acting as if there could be other assailants there? well, when we did get that update they did tell us that they had cleared everyone out of that vicinity because they had their s.w.a.t. team coming in and they were their s.w.a.t. team was going inch by inch throughout that area looking for others, potentially, but they did say they strongly believe they had their one shooter. however, they want a sterile situation so that not only can they make sure 100% that the threat is gone, but also looking
for evidence because they need not only physical evidence, but, of course, they re going to want to look at that tape as well, that tape is going tell a lot as far as how long did this all go on. that tape will tell them exactly where he was standing, who he was aiming at, how he went about this as he opened fire on these innocent travelers, jim. rene marsh, thanks very much. please stand by. i want to bring in niegel nelson, he was there. he heard the gun shots as he waited in the security line. niegel, you think you may have been close to the shooter as this happened? pretty close, actually. so i was in the line waiting just about to step through the screening area when we heard the shots and there were people running behind us and screaming, security personnel screaming run run run. we ran. we were led out by the flight attendants and so on on to the
tarmac. there we waited until about an hour or so when we got information as to what was happening. they tried to provide refreshments. i understand you may have heard more gun shots following that initial round of gunfire? this was about say 45 minutes to an hour after we were on the tarmac waiting when they got us all together and said that they they ve pretty much secured the building or secured the terminal and they were trying to get us inside. get us back inside. understood. that s when we heard shouting and screaming again and people started scurrying away. i heard at least two more shots. then, of course, we started running. i understand in that panic, you lost your shoes, just a sign of how quickly people had to get out of there? well, actually, i was, like i
said, i was just about to step through the security screening. i put my shoes, phone, wallet, all my belongings into the trays. they were able to go through. that s when the shooting started and that s when everybody started running. i had to run without even a belt on my pant, with everything. i just had to run. now what are you seeing there right now, as understand you re still at the airport? i m still at the airport. we re i m in terminal d. terminal 2, section d6. we were let back inside. we re told they re doing some amount of checks still. they did confirm with us a while ago that they saw or they phoned found something suspicious and they re going to do a controlled explosion within five minutes or so, so the announcement just came over to tell us that we shouldn t panic or anything. so we re still waiting.
they the security personnel they re moving around trying to keep us calm, trying to, you know, give us a sense of security and all that. well, thank you very much, niegel nelson, we here at cnn are glad you re safe. we want to go back to evan perez. i understand you have new information? you re welcome. all right. the fact that the suspect had with the fbi in anchorage alaska, recently about a couple months ago, he showed up at the anchorage office of the fbi and apparently exhibiting sh some kind of mental health issues. there was concern there. local authorities or himself. at some point he has checked into a local mental health institution according to officials we ve been talking to. this is still part of the early investigation still putting together a picture of exactly where he s been, what exactly might have led up to this shooting. but what we re beginning what s beginning to emerge is a
picture of somebody who was exhibiting some kind of mental health illness, issues. he apparently checked himself in or voluntarily was checked in to a mental health institution there for some treatment. after he showed up at the fbi office in anchorage, alaska. after that, we don t know what happens next. we know that he did get on a flight from alaska and was flew into ft. lauderdale today. earlier we i think mistakenly said he had come through canada, but i think partly because of some of his initial interviews and statements to investigators, in which he indicated that he had come from canada. we now know that he, indeed, had come from alaska, had flown into ft. lauderdale airport earlier today, before he started carrying out this shooting. again, mental health issues is the picture that s emerging here from this suspect. that s right. i heard similar from u.s. officials earlier. evan perez, thanks very much.
tom fuentes with me in washington and phil mudd still on the line. tom, as you listen to that, we re beginning to get a clearer picture perhaps of the suspect and the shooting. it could be serious mental health problems. we don t know the cause of it. you know, we ve had other incidents where somebody severely mentally ill does have access or owns a gun. which apparently is the case here. but you have situations where if somebody already owns a gun and then later gets mental health treatment there s no real way to find him and take the gun away. that s the possibility in this situation, he developed this problem mentally after he already owned the sgloon it s an issue that comes up so frequently with shootings that we cover, mental health, and that s one issue you hear from republicans as well, maybe they need to address the mental health issues as tied to gun violence. phil mudd, a lot of experience profiling bad actors tell us your view as we hear more information about the suspected shooter? i would step away from this and i think we will come up with
the unavoidable conclusion we have another tragedy in america that s not preventable because we have someone that has mental health issues who didn t intend before he got on the plane on killing somebody. two quick things. did anybody know before he got on the plane that he had anger issues that might manifest themselves on the plane and did he talk about an incident of violence. my guess is no, but guess is not good enough here. there s a second bigger question. is there anything we can learn? we re talking about the issue of how do you think about someone who goes into mental health treatment who has access to a weapon. i think you to do an after action here but i m afraid we re going to step away and say in the america of 2017 this is just going to happen periodically. sadly, we come on the air with stories like this more often than we can coun. juliette kayyem, based on evan s information, the idea he arrived on ap earlier flight than we believed initially, and might have had some time to think about this before he acted?
that s exactly right. what i m picking up on phil s point. what are we going to learn from this? obviously, you know, we have another major mass casualty shooting and there are debates, political debates, about guns and access to guns, but the other question i have, is if there was some sort of altercation or disturbance on an airplane, or around the airplane, what did officials at the airport, certainly plenty of them, whether it was at airline industry or tsa or local or state officials did they do anything or what did they do? i m curious about that only because we have to train these officials to be able to deescalate problems in a world in which we have too many lots of arms and unfortunately untreated mental health issues. and so that would be one of my takeaways from this as we started the hour, you know, i said this was a suspicion, that this was someone who got on a plane and didn t intend on doing this. and how can we deescalate these situations before they lead to a
tragedy like this. just to reiterate some of that new information, learning now that shooter, one, had previous contact with the fbi, he was known to the federal bureau of investigation. two, that it is believed that he had mental health issues, possible mental health problems. in addition to that we learn as well there might have been altercation on this flight, an immediate perhaps triggering event. right. at this point we need to do the investigation. we need to find out what exactly happened. to the extent we can know it. we may never know what was inside his head that caused this to happen. and, you know, what his background is. so it s going to take more investigation to even have an idea of what happened here. tom fuentes, thank you. new information that being a photo of the shooting suspect here. i m going to go to our evan perez. that s right. this is a photo that we have of the suspect. you know, there was not a lot of we checked his criminal background. not a lot in his criminal background. very minor stuff that he that showed up in the records.
and so this indicates that, aside from this recent visit to the fbi office in anchorage, alaska, there s really not much contact that police have had, law enforcement has had with him. we re told he has not shown up on any radar of anybody who is potentially extremist or radicalized. that s one of the first things unfortunately these days that law enforcement does when one of these cases happens, they check to see whether or not there s anything that comes up with regard to extremism. we haven t they haven t found any indication of that at this point. again, very few very minor criminal history is what we have in his background. and apart from just a couple months ago showing up at the fbi office in anchorage and exhibiting signs of mental illness that appears to be the extent of the law enforcement contact. significant law enforcement contact that this suspect had until today. jim? you re looking at the face there in that photograph of esteban santiago, the suspect in

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tonight, and he is coming off a summit with some of the people who were his strongest detractors during the campaign. senior national correspondent john roberts is outside trump tower again tonight. good evening, john. bret, good evening to you. it was the highest profile summit yet at trump tower, which is directly behind this bus behind me, and also the highest dollars. donald trump played host to high-tech billionaires, most of whom actively campaigned against him in the election. well, i just want to thank everybody. reporter: it was a crowd that just weeks ago had been openly hostile to donald trump. amazon founder jeff bezos who during the campaign claimed trump was eroding the democratic process. apple ceo tim cook who raised millions for hillary clinton. facebook coo sheryl sandberg also backed hillary clinton, as did tesla and spacex founder, elon musk. today trump urged them all to put political differences aside and focus on growing the economy, point out tech stocks have been doing pretty well
to say no. also in the running is south dakota republican congresswoman christey noe. while she said she d prefer to stay in congress, she might have a kdifficult time declining. trump has promised to revamp the structure and culture of the va. that will require a unique candidate. despite the delay, trump remains well ahead of most of his recent predecessors in naming his cabinet. on the latest stop in his thank you tour in wisconsin last night, donald trump publicly buried the hatchet with house speaker paul ryan. the two finally appearing on stage together. and when trump supporters booed ryan. the president-elect leapt to his defense, albeit with a caveat. you know, honestly, he s like a fine wine. every day goes by, i get to appreciate his genius more and more. now, if he ever goes against me, i m not going to say that, okay.
all have ties to oil producing states. scott pruitt has even questioned climate change itself. i think the president s view is that policy making should be guided by science and that the policy makers should be listening to scientists, both inside the government and outside the government. reporter: adding to the white house s concerns, reports pie the president-elect s team for the names of the energy department staff and contractors who worked on the obama administration s efforts to reduce carbon emissions, a survey since disavowed by the trump transition team. there should be real apprehension across the country that clean energy revolution, our efficiency revolution, our fight for clean airan water are going to be under assault from the minute he takes the oath of office. reporter: by the way, bret, the person that sent out that survey has since been properly counselled. it s also important to point out that they re expected to take a very fresh look at a number of obama administration policies as far as the energy environment is
federal funds rate is appropriate in light of the solid progress we have seen toward our goals of maximum employment and 2% inflation. we continue to expect that the evolution of the economy will warrant only gradual increases in the federal funds rate over time. stocks declined on the news that the fed may make three more rate hikes next year. the dow dropped 119, the s&p 500 was off 18, the nasdaq fell 27. now joining us from our sister network, fox business network s melissa francis. so why did the rate hike or the talk of more rate hikes spook the market today? yeah, it was really about that idea of janet yellen saying that we might be raising rates three more times in the year. investors had expected the federal reserve to say that maybe it would be two more times, but, you know, i would caution investors out there, they promised a number of rate hikes within a year in the past and they haven t followed
deposit or spend currency that is about to become worthless. embattled president nicholas maduro said he was taking the most commonly used bill out of circulation. venezuela is in a long economic crisis. we ve reported on it before. struggling with the world s highest inflation. people have been lining up outside banks since tuesday morning. we ll continue to follow the situation there. there is considerable confusion tonight about whether the on again, off again truce in aleppo, syria, is on again. late this afternoon syrian rebels said it was, but cease-fires like this have come and gone before without much success. tonight correspondent rich edison is at the white house looking at where we are right now in the war in syria. a warning here, though, some of the images in this report may be disturbing. reporter: this is what cease-fire agreements look like this aleppo, syria.
translator: look how they killed my child. why, my brother, why. reporter: these buses were to evacuate civilians and rebels. instead they re empty. they had agreed to allow them to evacuate aleppo, returning control of the city to ba shaush bashar al assad. syrian forces have returned bombing aleppo as they capture more of the city. symbolically it means a study they have struggled to besiege and encircle and take for years is finally theirs. reporter: the united nations says pro-government forces have killed dozens of civilians. there are dozens of suicides. in more than five years of fighting, hundreds of thousands of syrians are dead, killed as several nations, rebel groups and terrorist organizations converged on this country. in 2011, it began with hope. syria joined the arab spring. citizens mobilizing to overthrow
their oppressive governments. assad responded with a violent crackdown. the country fell into civil war with terrorist groups joining the fight to secure syrian territory of its own. that summer the obama administration declared assad must step aside. a year later, this threat. a red line for us is we start seeing a whole bunch of chemical weapons moving around or being utilized. reporter: another year later, assad s forces killed 1400 using sarin gas. obama decided to walk back from his threat and pursue diplomacy with assad s ally, russia. that diplomacy has turned to disgust. the idea that you would target a playground and bomb kids, hoping that you would then convince people to give up because you had killed their kids? what kind of a sick mind comes up with a strategy like that? and what kind of civilized country is going to support those tactics? but that s what russia has done. reporter: and now questions of whether the administration should have engaged further in
syria, beyond air strikes against isis. there has never been a recognition that civilian population protection is at the heart, at the heart of avoiding and fighting extremism. our failure to protect the syrian population is i think the biggest policy failure we did. reporter: syria will be a question for the trump administration, as it will now decide whether and how to engage russia and continued u.s. involvement in syria. rich, thank you. the marine corps is grounding its fleet of mv-22 osprey aircraft in japan following a crash off the coast of japan earlier this week. it happened while the tilt rotor plane was conducting a nighttime midair refueling operation. the five crew members aboard the plane were all rescued. it is the eighth crash incident involving marine aircraft this year. a new theory tonight on how russian hackers allegedly got into the hillary clinton campaign e-mail system.
the daily mail reports a typo in an e-mail from one of clinton s top aides may have been responsible for opening a digital door. meantime the house intelligence committee abruptly circled thursday s briefing on the alleged russian election hacks. fox news is told that the intel agencies, the cia, fbi, nsa, odni all refused to provide briefers, which is unusual given that this is the most senior committee with jurisdiction. the russian scandal has put the spotlight on our country s aging i.t. infrastructure and not just the equipment. you might be shocked to learn just how many of the men and women charged with keeping our government s computers safe and effective are among the country s oldest workers. peter doocy tells us more tonight. reporter: during the presidential campaign season, there was a lot of talk about who should have his or her finger on the button that controls the nation s nuclear arsenal. it turns out that nuclear arsenal is partly coordinated
using an 8-inch floppy disk. where do you buy a floppy disk? i can t imagine what the price is now. and so that s the big threat is this slow, grinding, lower quality, higher cost set of services. reporter: the cost of caring for such ancient equipment is now so high the feds don t have much money left over for anything else. among the biggest spenders on i.t., hhs at $13 billion a year, dhs at more than $6 billion a year and the va at nearly $4.5 billion a year. the federal government spends almost $90 billion a year on information technology and almost 80% of that is spent on operations and maintenance, servicing systems that may be over 50 years old. reporter: the workforce is aging too. there are more federal i.t. employees over 60 than there are under 30. at hud, 23% of i.t. workers are
over 60. at the national science foundation 18%, and at labor, 17%, which could become a problem whenever they decide to leave. there are a lot of folks that are retirement eligible that will be leaving in the near term. the real question is are we going to be able to attract the best talent to come in to fill those places and bluntly to do things differently than we ve been doing in the past. cost isn t the only concern as the government tries to get top talent to work for them. the nation s cyber infrastructure remains exposed to hackers. we need about 30,000 to thwart the worst kind of attack on this country. we ve only got about a thousand. reporter: experts are waiting to see how the next president addresses the aging i.t. infrastructure, but private sector companies don t have to wait for anything, like ibm action whose ceo says the company is trying to adjust to changes in tech by hiring thousands of what she calls new collar workers who don t necessarily even need college degrees.
peter, thank you. up next, why some people are worried a president donald trump has interesting communication plans. first, here s what some of our fox news affiliates around the country are covering tonight. fox carolina in greenville as lawyers for the man accused of killing nine black parishioners at a south carolina church rest their case without calling any witnesses. earlier a judge ruled they could not present evidence about dylann roof s mental health. closing arguments are planned for tomorrow. fox 8 in high point, north carolina, with the firing of a wake forest university football announcer accused of giving sensitive information to the team s opponents. tommy el rod is a former player for the school and was also a coach for 11 seasons. he was not retained when the current coach took over. this is a live look from our affiliate in san francisco, fox 2. one of the big stories there tonight, uber puts some of their self-driving cars into service there. it s an expansion of the pilot
program that started in pittsburgh in september. an uber employee is still behind the wheel to take over in case there s a problem here. customers can opt out if they prefer a human driver. would you? that s tonight s live look outside the beltway from special report. we ll be right back. generosity is its own form of power.
i m in all the way. is that understood? i don t know what she s up to, but it s not good. can t the world be my noodles and butter? get your mind out of the gutter. mornings are for coffee and contemplation. that was a really profound observation. you got a mean case of the detox blues. don t start a war you know you re going to lose. finally you can now find all of netflix in the same place as all your other entertainment. on xfinity x1. tonight we continue our series on the first 100 days of the donald trump presidency. with one of his signature campaign rallying points. early and often the republican nominee took aim at president obama s legacy nuclear deal with iran. but trump also hinted he would not just tear up that deal, so now the question is what will the new president do about the nuclear deal and is there room for a detente with iran beyond
the deal? chief washington correspondent james rosen reports. reporter: born in iran, an accomplished lecturer and the author of three books in he sees some prospects under the next president for improved relations between washington and his ancestral persian homeland. if nothing else, mr. trump, he does represent american pragmatism. he will cut deals. he will sit down with friend and foe and try to come up with the best deals. reporter: in the years since the iranian regime the united states along with five other nations implemented a deal, including huge infusions of cash. at the same time iran s military has harassed the u.s. military.
ramped up ballistic missile testing, intervened to prop up the assad regime in syria, continued funding hamas and hezbollah and reaffirmed undying hostility to the nation it calls the great satan. most analysts believe in his first 100 days in office the next president will make swift demonstration to his changing the relationship. the nuclear chord at the heart, never having been ratified by congress, is at once the easiest thing to change and the most far reaching. as a candidate, donald trump criticized it bitterly. this is one of the worst deals ever made by any country in history. the deal with iran will lead to nuclear problems. all they have to do is sit back ten years and they don t have to do much and they re going to get nuclear. reporter: but he has also signalled he doesn t intend to walk away from the deal. to ri deal. i ve taken over some bad contracts. i would police that contract so
tough that they don t have a chance, as bad as the contract is, i will be so tough on that contract. reporter: the secretary of state who negotiated the iran deal hinting ehintinged to repo brussels that president obama in attempting to persuade his successor not to scrap the deal thought there was some headway. there were aspects of it that were constructive and positive and worthwhile and maybe should be held onto. reporter: iranes president has warned tehran will not allow mr. trump to weaken or abandon the deal. the state department acknowledged iran has no such power. they cannot prevent any party from walking away. the counter argument is why would anyone walk away because it s effective. reporter: outside of the nuclear deal, it is the raging civil war and humanitarian catastrophe in syria that may offer the new president
coordination with iran. the president-elect has vowed to work with the kremlin to resolve that conflict. alan parsa for one says mr. trump may recognize a bit of himself in his adversaries in iran. iranians have shown themselves to be rather pragmatic in many, many areaare and as mr. trump has said they re good deal makers too. reporter: even if he intends to quiet things down between the u.s. and iran, mr. trump will soon find his hand forced by events. members of congress have proposed close to three dozen sanctions bills and the new president will have to issue new waivers for the nuclear deal to continue, if of course mr. trump is of a mind to keep it. james, thank you. our 15-part series looking ahead to the first 100 days of the trump presidency continues tomorrow with the president-elect s plans for tax cuts and simplification of the tax code. if you miss any of the reports,
you can check them all out on foxnews.com/specialreport. president trump s critics have something new to worry about tonight. it involves the decades-old effort to spread democracy to other nations through the media. howard kurtz is here tonight with some big changes for agency lgs su agencies such as the voice of america. reporter: politico says that trump will take over an office that could turn into an unfetterred propaganda arm, a kind of trump tv that could only peddle trump approved content. trump could name the editor of breitbart news or another alt-right propagandaist to control how the u.s. is represented to the rest of the world. we re talking about naming a single chief executive to oversee the voa, radio-free europe on the other agencies that are currently battling such forces as isis propaganda and
russian cyber hacking. haven t they been around for decades? yes, but a new law is eliminating the broadcasting board of governors, it s been widely criticized add ineffective and replace it with a single ceo. that change was supported by president obama s administration, president s chairman at the board of governors, the top democrat on the house foreign affairs committee among others. the senate, by the way, could approve or reject that anybody trump nominated. i spoke to the committee chairman, ed royce, and i asked him about the furor. i think that s hysteria. as a matter of fact, there s very clear laws in place here in this legislation that put in a firewall in terms of journalistic independence. so in fact what s driving this is opposition from the bureaucracy itself. meanwhile, bret, hillary clinton herself as secretary of state testified that the broadcasting board of governors was practically defunct in terms
of being able to sell a message to the world. congressman royce introduced this legislation last year, virtually no news coverage. only since trump s election have news organizations seized on it, suggesting, possibly, a double standard. howie, thank you. the election of donald trump has many in the united nations worried about big changes in the u.s. attitude toward that organization. president-elect trump has made no secret of his disdain for the u.n. and the global group has just sworn in a new secretary general who is promising what he calls management reform. senior correspondent eric shawn looks at that situation tonight. the united nations is not a friend of democracy. it s not a friend to freedom. it s not a friend even to the united states of america. reporter: donald trump clearly no fan of the united nations. the president-elect s views are at odds with the world body on a variety of pressing issues, from its support of the iran nuclear
deal, climate change initiatives and resettling refugees. the overwhelming feeling among most members was that barack obama was their kind of u.s. president, so i think it will be a different reception. but i think the whole point of the idea of making america great again is to reassert ourselves, especially in bodies like the united nations. reporter: former u.n. ambassador john bolden who has talked to mr. trump about joining the administration predicts the president-elect will take a hard stance at the u.n. he says the almost $3 billion american taxpayers paid this year alone, the most of any nation, could be cut. i think a good, hard look at the u.n. budget is long overdue. i wouldn t be at all surprised if a president trump once in office does pay particular attention to it. it s total insanity. reporter: that was the undiplomatic opinion of mr. trump a decade ago when we sat down to discuss the multi
billion dollar renovation. he testified about it to congress and accused the u.n. of overspending. it is either the most corrupt thing going on in the world, which is saying something, or it s one of the most incompetent things i ve ever seen. reporter: mr. trump has tapped republican south carolina governor nikki haley as his choice for juu.n. ambassador. i think there s a lot of day-to-day issues that she doesn t know about. the problem that nikki haley is going to face is that many of the other countries delegates are people that have been there for a very long time, like her counterpart from russia has been there for ten years. reporter: a possible preview of what governor haley could face came in a september speech by the u.n. commissioner for human rights. he compared the rhetoric from mr. trump and others that he called populist, demagogues and clever cheats to the propaganda of isis. some breaking news now. the house intelligence committee chairman is not happy at all that the intelligence agencies
have refused to provide anybody for that committee hearing on alleged russian hacking. devon nunez replacing a statement. it is unacceptable that the intelligence community directors would not fulfill the house intelligence committee s request to be briefed tomorrow on the cyber attacks that occurred during the presidential campaign. the legislative branch is constitutionally vested with oversight responsibility of executive branch s agencies which are obligated to comply with our requests. the committee is deeply concerned that intrance jents in sharing intelligence with congress can enable the manipulation for political purposes. we will talk about more of this with the panel in just a moment. many of you are hopeful and optimistic, some of you are scared. we will talk about all of the fox news polls as well, since donald trump won the election, and that breaking news about the intelligence agencies giving the stiff arm to the house intelligence committee when the panel joins me after a break.
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did we have our hair on fire that hacking took place? no. i mean that s what happens. if he can discredit the integrity of what we do here in the voting process and electing folks, he is winning. we have the president-elect of the united states publicly condemning the intelligence services on which he will have to rely as president. if i m running that covert action, i m putting it in the win column. it s quite possible that the republican party has been exploited and donald trump himself might have been exploited over the years by russian intelligence. so a lot of talk about the alleged hacking and what it meant for the election, as the breaking news we just brought to you, that the intel agencies are not providing any briefers to the house intelligence committee and the chairman, devon nunez,
being very upset about that. this is new fox news polls coming out on this issue. russia s attempts to influence the 2016 presidential election helped donald trump and there you see all voters 32%, hillary clinton 1%, no effect 59%. of course clinton voters a much different take on all of that. donald trump s dealings with china and russia. here you see the breakdown in the fox poll. too accommodating to russia, 50%. too confrontational with china, 43%. interesting findings there. finally overall, the opinion of donald trump as it stands now, according to our latest polls, favorable, unfavorable, 47-51. you can see a big jump as far as where it stood at the beginning of november at election time. let s bring in our panel. steve hayes, senior writer for the weekly had is it. maura elison of national public radio and guy benson, political editor at townhall.com, charles
hurt, political columnist for the washington times. steve, first of all, congratulations. you have a new title. i do have a new title. and said title is? editor in chief of the weekly standard. thank you very much, we will put that up. congratulations. the thoughts about the nunez development and the fact that the intel agencies are not providing briefings to what he wanted a hearing on this russian hacking. pretty extraordinary that they would deny briefings. from what i understand it was a denial of the requested briefings rather than just not being responsive. they have said no, they re not going to provide the briefing. you know, the statement that you read from devon nunez, he s not someone who is prone to anger. that was steaming anger coming from him, especially the suggestion that this could be the politiciization of intelligence. i think the context that you ve seen in the minds of many republicans, including on the oversight committees.
over the years, particularly at the cia throughout the obama administration. if you look back at the kind of intelligence products that the cia was providing to the president, it was consistent with what the president wanted to be true, particularly with respect to al qaeda, isis, the war on terror. so they were providing intelligence product that was fit to match what the president s ideological conclusions. the concern is that that s what s taking place again here. i think if the cia or people at the cia are going to be leaking these kinds of accusations, they have an obligation to go before the congressional oversight committees and explain themselves. now, having said all of that, these are very serious claims. i think there are some people who are defending the trump administration or conservatives who aren t being serious enough about the potential russian intervention in the u.s. election. okay, maura, so here you have this story, the washington post does it first, that the cia believes that the russians
hacked in order to help donald trump. you have clearly some intel agencies that are not on the same page when it comes to this. right. now, nunez is trying to figure this out and he calls this committee hearing and gets the heisman award from the intel agencies, we re not going. now, how are the electors who are asking for intel briefings to feel confident about that to me is inexplicable. put aside the dissention about the motive. there is one thing that is almost unanimous, which is that russia accounted hacked. russia wanted to sow doubts among americans about their own electoral process. that s a real cyber attack and it s really serious. that s something that donald trump, so far the only prominent american that we know of, who has completely rejected that finding that russia hacked. as a matter of fact, he said it could have been a 400-pound guy
sitting somewhere. lindsey graham said it might have been a 400-pound guy but it was a 400-pound russian guy. i don t know why they didn t brief. there are going to be hearings on this. they briefed them in october. they briefed congress in october. they briefed november 17th. here is the director of national intelligence, clapper. as far as the wikileaks connection, the evidence there is not as strong and we don t have good insight into the sequencing of the releases or when the data may have been provided. is he off script there, guy? what s going on? who knows. anyone s guess is as good as mine. i think that there has to be an answer here from the intelligence community. when you re brought forward and congress asks to hear from you and the relevant oversight committee wants to hear, there s a lot of noise out there, there s a lot of allegations flying back and forth, the
motives are unclear, differences in opinion among various agencies, when congress asks you to show up and explain yourself on some level and you say no, the american people have to ask the question, i don t care if you re a republican or democrat, why on earth can they say that. not just why are they saying it, why can they say that. at some point they need to show up and answer questions. meanwhile the white house, josh earnest from the podium is getting a little more aggressive when it comes to this topic. a whole lot more. i think that s a very important thing to remember. obviously the accusations are very serious. if russia attempted or succeeded in any way to sort of interfere with our american elections, that s a very serious issue and we need to get to the bottom of it without fear of favor of any politician. but on the other hand, you do have a sitting president right now who should be overseeing all of this and he s not doing much to help add clarity to all of it. i can t help but get the feeling
that he himself has contributed to the politicization of intelligence. how will history judge donald trump s presidency. you see the breakdown, one of the greatest, 11%, above average, one of the worst 31%. describe the election outcome feelings. 59% say hopeful, 50% said relieved. i think a lot of people covering the election. maura, what do you finding striking about these poll numbers? i m not sure what i make about the outcome, maybe it just means that it s over. that s subject to interpretation. but what i find striking is just the basic favorable/unfavorable. donald trump s favorable is now about his ballot. it should be higher. when you compare him to past presidents at this time, usually you get a bounce after you win. you usually don t have as much negative coverage either.
that s true, but usually you don t win in such a stunning way. this was a real upset. and you d think that he d get a bounce from that. but he didn t. so that s one thing that i think is really interesting. but it has been trending up, so we ll see if that trend continues. i think he did bounce. the only thing is he bounced those people are above their ballots. there was never going to be a big honeymoon period for the next president, regardless of who won, because these were unpopular people. the number bret, you mentioned, 59% of americans saying they re hopeful moving forward after the election. to me that s an opportunity for donald trump. this has been a very nasty cycle with a lot of strong feelings on all sides, acrimony, bitterness, and yet hopeful is the number one answer from the american people. if he can capture some of that and move forward, he can maybe gain some more political capital, to your point. and the other one, 68% of americans believe donald trump will repeal obamacare, that has to be a priority. jobs, jobs, jobs, he said in
the speech in wisconsin, steve, and today he met at trump tower with the tech community, a summit in which he said we ll do anything that you need, give me a call or give somebody in my administration a call if you have any issues. yeah, he said there wasn t a strict chain of command. call in and we ll take care of you. look, he s made very clear that he wants jobs to be a priority. one of the things that we ve seen him do early in his pre-presidential period is the pr of jobs. and whether you re talking about carrier, whether you re talking about meetings like this, this is showing america, americans are going to go home and see it on their news, watch shows like this and say donald trump is doing something about jobs. you know, part of the reason he won was because of the things that he said about the economy. showing that he s making progress, that he s actually checked in, tuned in to what people s priorities and concerns are, as guy says he could take advantage of that hopefulness. next up, the obama
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science. we have seen a lot of the science absolutely start running amuck. the interior secretary for the obama administration sally jewel. did you all know who the interior secretary was? be honest. that s why when you talk about all these choices in months from now we will all be asking those questions about the trump administration. she was asking a final push to imploring scientists to confront so-called climate change deniers. this after the trump transition team asked the energy department s e.p.a. staff to see who was working on the efforts to reduce carbon emissions. we re back with our panel. charlie, about this push. it s not a shocking argument to say that a lot of this climate change stuff has become something of a religion on the left. and it s a religion within the e.p.a. and the energy department. and i think that, you know, obviously, the cabinet are
doing their best to kind of frighten voters about this request for the names and the work of some of these people. but, you know, when trump said i think this is a scam for a lot of people to make a lot of money. in the meantime china is eating our lunch. he said that before the election. and he won the election. and people knew exactly where he stood on this people should give the donald trump some room to make good on his promises. in the environment community though, mara, the trump nomination so far, the scott pruitt for e.p.a. administrator and rick perry for energy secretary they frankly scare people. they do. the environmental community takes him at his word. he doesn t believe co 2 emissions have anything to do with global warning emissions at all.
and scott pruitt seems to aagree with him. i don t know about rick perry on that particular question it sounds like if that s the case, even though donald trump has also sent conflicting signals he says he has an open mind. i think at some point you have to either decide to accept the 99% consensus of scientists that man contributes to it or not and the paris climate accord and what he wants to do. i think you can still be for all the above energy policy and also want to do something about global warming. is there a nuances position in between that you want to do something but you don t want it to kill american businesses? yeah. and that s a policy disagreement. i think everyone should be in favor of political noninterference when it comes to science. but the problem that i have is that this often is attacked as a phenomenon that only occurs in one direction. it s those right wing denialist who are minting thingmintmanipulating things. when the left does it do it
pretty frequently when it fits their agenda whether on pipelines or things like that. i would commend to our viewers a really good wall street journal op-ed earlier this month by a scientist by the university of colorado it was entitled my unhappy life as a climate haiherheretic. he believes in the carbon tax and supports that remedy for the problem that he sees. his one heresy was he doesn t believe that climate change contributes to an increase in severe weather events. and for that sin, that thought crime based on evidence that he saw, he has been shunned and shamed and, in fact, called out by the obama white house. so this does happen on both ends. and let s not pretend otherwise. right. let s be clear, steve, that the left for all the talk about being open and transparent and free-thinking and lots of thoughts out there, this is strict. if you are not this way
100 percent, you are out in the cold, pardon the pun. that s exactly right. what it does is have the effect of foreclosing debate. if it s the case that the science is so clear and that anybody who denied or even raises questions would be immediately exposed as an idiot, they should welcome the debate. too often what they do is they use these names, the denialist to foreclose the debate. that s exactly the wrong thing to do. you see it from the left quite a bit. that said, the trump administration, i think, shouldn t have sent this questionnaire. they were smart to disavow it because it looks there like they are trying to foreclose debate. his talk about this. the president-elect has evolved from candidate to president-elect. take a listen. i think it s a big scam for a lot of people to make a lot of money. in the meantime, china is eating our lunch because they don t partake in all of the rules and regulations that we do. where are you on the environment? i m still open-minded.
nobody really knows. so people jumped on him after he said the open-minded thing. but then he turned around and invited al gore and leo decaprio into trump tower to talk to him and everything and then picked rick perry. that doesn t mean he isn t pt pruitt. bill gates has people pulling their hair out that he said. this. in the same way that president kennedy talked about the space mission and got the country behind that, i think that whether it s education or stopping epidemics, there can be a very upbeat message that his administration is going to organize things, get rid of regular go tore barriers and have american leadership through innovation. reference jfk there. he has a big fund on this. he is starting big, big investments into energy innovation. that is it for the panel.
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come on man get real. he repatted my words back to me. get real. as he began thrusting his genitals. reporter: she said the sexual advance eventually stopped. she had dinner him and then threat hotel. she said she was offered a job at trump s golf course near l.a. but turned it down when the salary was half of what she expected. she hasn t talked to trump since but reach out in april of this year to give him a chance to explain his behavior. she never heard back. with a flood of allegations she felt compelled to speak out. you don t have the right to treat women as sexual objects just because you re a star. reporter: in a statement today trump says to be clear i never met her at a hotel or greeted her inappropriately a decade ago. he continued that s not who i am as a person and it is not how i ve conducted my life. wbr-id= wbr3530 /> kristen anderson telling the washington post she too was groped by trump at a nightclub in new york in the early 1990s.
the person on my right who unbeknownst to me at the time was donald trump put their hands up my skirt. he did touch my [ bleep ] through my underwear. pushed the hand away, got up and i turn around and see these eyebrows, very distinct eyebrows of donald trump. and i got up and i moved and i continued to talk with my friends. and they said oh, that s donald trump. i was like ew, he s gross, he just put his hand up my skirt. cnn has not verified eritrea of these claims. the trump campaign responding to kristen anderson s allegations with this. this is a total fabrication, it did not happen. it is illegal logical and nonsensical to think donald trump was iaaf lone in a nightclub in manhattan and that the alleged incident and recognition of mr. trump went unnoticed by both the woman involved and anyone else in this crowded venue.
both women claim they told their friends in the minutes and hours after these alleged assault. as for zevos she told her parents. i reached her father. he said he can t talk about this. zervos is republican and is speaking out so she can sleep at night. the trump campaign released this statement reportedly from summer zervos cousin. i am completely shocked and bewildered by my cousin. ever since summer was on the apprentice she s had nothing but glowing things to say about mr. trump that was until summer invited mr. trump to her restaurant during the primary and he said no. i think summer wishes she can still be on reality tv and in toward get that back she s saying all these negative things about mr. trump. these are things said by mr. barry. cnn reach out no gloria allred. this is their response.
jon barry is a huge trump supporter. he was employed at summer s family restaurant until several months ago when his employment ended. let s bring in chris. what else is the trump campaign saying? reporter: more bad news for trump. these two women came forward yesterday alleging trump groped them. that brings number of women who publicly accused trump of sexual harassment or sexual assault to seven. now hillary clinton for her part has mostly steered clear of the allegations against trump largely for fear of pulling the spotlight away from a campaign that s pretty troubled right now but she did weigh in last night at a fundraiser in seattle. the whole world has heard how donald trump brags about mistreating women. and the disturbing stories keep coming. this is who donald trump really
is. we know that. now we have to demonstrate who we are. [ applause ] america is better than this. reporter: now kristen anderson told the washington post in a story published yesterday that trump slid his hand up her mini skirt and touched her priechts at a new york city nightclub back in the 90s. and former apprentice star zerch rvos said trump grabbed her breast and kissed her over dinner. trump is dismissing all these allegations as lies. in fact he seemed to mock two of his other accusers as too unattractive to draw his attention and painted himself as a victim of an notorious smear campaign. these allegations are 100% false. as everybody, i think you know. these claims, by reason truth logic common sense are made without supporting witnesses.
reporter: now the allegations have knocked trump off track, off message since this news broke last week. but trump says he plans to address the nation in a much more personal way. he wants to talk about his vision for the country. obviously wanting to move past all these allegations, victor. thanks so much. our cnn politics senior reporter joins us now. steven, we heard what the plan is that he wants to talk more policy. how much more of that might we hear as we re now four days away from the final debate? reporter: well everything we know about donald trump is he may say he wants to talk about policy but once he s attacked he hits back twice as hard and that s what eve seen in the last few days in donald trump s rallies. he s responded to these allegations. the question is, is that the most sort of advisable political strategy. trump said yesterday that during one of his rallies that his advisors told him look don t
talk about this, talk about your message, talk about trade, talk about being a change agent because those are the issues that will shape the election but donald trump said, you know, when i m punched i punch back twice as hard. so the question is going into the debate later this week is donald trump is going try to address this in a formal speech, perhaps, sit down interview with somebody to try to get it off the table so he doesn t have to address this directly during the debate or is he going into this debate and as we saw in the last debate on sunday when he vehemently addressed the access hollywood video, you know, made the debate all about donald trump and that s the question a lot of people have. it doesn t seem to be the best political strategy. steven, who behind-the-scenes in his camp might he might be taking some directives from as they shift him back on the policy talk? reporter: it s a good question. at this point donald trump is following his own instincts.
people like kellyanne conway his campaign manager who came aboard a few months ago got donald trump back on track. got him to talk about policy. in recent days donald trump has decided look i ll do this my way. it almost seems like an admission if i lose i ll go down with my most loyal supporters. i was with donald trump this week at a few of his rallies. there s no way any of donald trump s loyal base of supporters are going to desert him over this. the question is what happens to other more moderate republicans. we ve seen fluctuations in his polls in recent weeks because more moderate republicans are getting on and off the trump train wondering whether they can support him. that doesn t take into account the people he really needs if he s going win this election, moderate voters, suburban educated women, white voters in places like philadelphia, colorado, florida. so, you know, donald trump is facing a huge task here. no modern candidate has faced
this kind of avalanche of allegations so close to the election. his route to the white house was already closing before this but now it s closing even more. real quickly let s point out there are a lot of people who absolutely refuse to vote for hillary clinton as well and she s dealing with her own challenges with all the wikileaks and hacked emails. in fact her campaign spokesman said we re still not confirming whether or not any of the wikileaks documents are authentic and are therefore not commenting on their content. the thing is, steven, surely they would know by now what is authentic and what is now. does their silence hurt them on this? reporter: it suits them not to address that question or give the impression this is all a russian plot. one of the down sides for donald trump in his strategy to address the allegation about him it s drowned out this daily drip, drip release of wikileaks documents which could have hurt hillary clinton and put the focus back on the fact that many people see her as dishonest and
not transparent. the clinton campaign is happy to step back, let donald trump take the stage because it s taking the spotlight away from things that can damage her in the run up to the last debate and in the last three weeks of the election. at least until wednesday night final debate when the spotlight is on both of them. appreciate seeing you this morning. thank you. so with less than a month, 24 days, you know we know how many days are left here. what should we expect from the trump campaign next? our political panel will weigh in. as focus remains on accusations against donald trump we want to take a look what hillary clinton is doing behind-the-scenes and the wikileaks challenge she has. hi, i m jamie foxx for sprint. and i m jamie foxx for t-mobile. (both) and we re just as good. really? only verizon was ranked number one nationally in data, reliability, text and call and speed. yeah! and you re gonna fist bump to that? get out of my sight. don t get fooled by a cut rate network. verizon gives you tons of data
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of sexual assault. it is a phoney deal. i have no idea who these women are. i have no idea. when you look at that horrible woman last night you think i don t think so. believe me she would not be my first choice that i can tell you. now suddenly after many, many years phoney accusers come out less than a month before in one of the most important elections in the history of our country. what came out recently were, i was sitting alone in some club. i really don t sit alone that much. all right let s bring in donald trump campaign surrogate, robert zimmermanman democratic strategist and hillary clinton support engineer. good morning. matt let me start with you what we saw last night, that was during the afternoon but another rally last night in which donald trump put the teleprompter to the side said i like it better without the teleprompter although his advisors say focus
on your plan for the economy, for jobs, for national security. is this what we saw in that video what we ll see in the next couple of weeks from donald trump? i don t know. i do know this i think if you look what voters are worried about, i think their biggest concern and 70% think this country is on the wrong track is that our economy does not off terrify type of job opportunities nor salary increases over the last 15 years, the take home pay let me just finish. this problem of islamic terrorism and fact that washington is broken. so i agree with you, i think if he focus on those issues i think he connects to these voters who think the country is on the wrong track and i think that s where that s his chance to win the race. but, matt, i want to get to robert in just a second but i think it s important to discuss where some of the trump supporters and clinton supporters were before we heard from these accusers of donald trump. let me take you back to
december. december 30th, the first time that donald trump started talking in this race during the primary about the clintons marriage. this is what you said about that then. you know, she loves her husband but clearly her husband has done some things that are just horrible. i mean, you know, we re going hear all about it. let me tell you one thing. donald trump has proven in politics that we ll go places and talk about things in a very clear manner that other politicians tend to shy away. the rules of politics telling you avoid certain areas because you could get stuck. donald trump goes there, and he s going to go there with bill clinton. he seems to get away with it because people appreciate his candor. when you start talking about bill clinton and his moral decisions in his life there is a lot of material. so now you re recommending that donald trump focus on the issues that we re dealing with these accusers but back then you said if you go there with bill clinton there s a lot of
material there. there is. reconcile that for me. it s not inconsistent with what i m saying. i m saying in order to win this race you have to connect on these key issues if you re donald trump. if you re hillary clinton you have to make it about something else. she s not seen as a candidate of change she s seen as a candidate of the status quo. as far as these questions as far as treatment of women and moral questions as a republican, as a trump supporter i can t believe that hillary clinton has the l gall to go out on stage and judge us. their moral judgment is repugnant when you consider the fact that bill clinton has been accused of you re characterizing what was found in those emails. is don t do that. look there s put the e-mail up. matt i don t have the graphic but we ll put it up. put it up because i was
called backward and it s offensive. is that a fair thing for me to bring up. i hear you re offended. i wanted our viewers to hear what you said in december talking about marriages and what you re saying today. robert to you. i didn t say anything that s excuse me. i stand by everything i said before. that s the problem, matt you do stand by it. let s be very clear, matt. in fact the issue is not whether you re deplorable the issue is the positions you re advocating are deplorable. the idea you can rationalize donald trump s conduct, the fact that he brags about acpredator, brags on howard stern show walk in on 18 and 19-year-old girls who are contestants on the miss universe show. that is in fact deplore scrabble. the idea that he defends himself by saying he wouldn t assault these women because they are not attractive. that s why 60% to 70% in most polls show the american people have decided he doesn t that
have character, done have the temperament or leadership to be a president. ultimately every election about the character and qualifications of an individual. that s why donald trump can t talk about issues. when he tries to talk about issues he doesn t have the credibility to address them. hold on, robert let me ask you what many republicans are saying that clinton supporters now are so outraged by the way donald trump is treating his accusers they weren t this outraged when hillary clinton responded to bill clinton s accusers. put up on the screen the graphic from what robert said september of this year the 29th when asked about how you feel about clintons treatment of women in the 90s. hillary stood up for her husband. she stood up for her marriage and very frankly whenever republicans have tried to attack her for that, they have absolutely gone down in flames. you said she was supporting her husband. now you re outraged what donald
trump is doing. exactly. in fact cnn own tom foreman and jeffrey toobin pointed out that the claim that hillary clinton attacked these individuals who were accusing bill clinton is, in fact, very thin and mostly false. yeah she mostly. i like that mostly false. she stood up for her husband and outraged by many of the false attacks against him and against her family. here s the point, matt. while she stood up for her husband and her family nothing excuses the way donald trump is, in fact, there s no equivalency between that and the way donald trump brags about being a predator. the worst thing is the way the republicans try to rationalize it. stay with us. we got to get in a break. clinton versus trump the final show un, final time face to face before the election. coverage starts here wednesday at 4:00 p.m. right here on cnn. more to discuss regarding
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advisors preparing for her final debate with donald trump. that comes next wednesday in las vegas. but she s hitting the books, doing the same types of preparation she was doing for the previous debates. but before leaving seattle, washington on friday, she also dropped by a campaign field office and talked to volunteers. she talked about how she s taking no satisfaction from this athletic at all and worries about these deep divisions. this election is incredibly painful. i take absolutely no satisfaction in what is happening on the other side with my opponent. i am not at all happy about that because it hurts our country. it hurts our democracy. it sends terrible messages to so many people here at home and around the world. the damage that is being done that we ll have to repair.
divisions are being deepened that we ll have to try to heal. so our job doesn t end after this election. reporter: by saying her job does not end after the election signifies she s looking ahead. when you talking to her advisors they tell me that she is, in fact forks concussion on simply winning 270 electoral votes but the reality here is they are preparing for a transition. they are looking forward. they know something different is happening in this race. but that only happens if she has a successful debate next week and she beats donald trump on november 8th. all right. thank you very much. hillary clinton preparing for the next debate but there are also more hacked emails coming to light as a result of the wikileaks release. we ll talk about those in just a moment. dad, one second i was driving and then the next. they just didn t stop and then. i m really sorry. i wrecked the subaru.
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8:33 is the time. good to see you this morning. i m christi paul. i m victor blackwell. let s reintroduce our political panel this morning. matt and robert are back. i want to talk about these emails in just a moment. but there s a tweet out from donald trump i want to get your reaction to. it s just a couple of minutes old. hillary clinton should have been prosecuted and should be in jail. instead she s running for president in what looks like a rigged election. reinforcing that what we ve seen from trump over several months now, this suggestion that the voters input doesn t matter here, that this is already decided. a rigged election.
right. sneers the no we ll go to matt first. this is great. look i think that what donald trump is talking about which is objectively true. there are people who have handled classified information how is that look when i answer could i please answer without interrupting because robert goes answer. leapt me answer and then you can ask another question. other people in this country have hand classified information in a reckless manner in which hillary clinton has handled reckless information and they are in the jail. members of the military are in jail. no question there s a double standard for hillary clinton. i served in the presidency of george w. bush. there were dozens and dozens of my colleagues who faced legal troubles because of wrongdoing and in the obama administration what we have seen is when his secretary of state got in trouble his fbi and his doj for whatever reason has not treated her like they treated other citizens in the country for
doing similar things. i think it s a fair statement to make that we should have equal justice under the law even for the clins. get to the last two words of this tweet. we got time. get to the last two words of this. you say this tweet is objectively true. put it back up on the screen. a rigged election. you say this is objectively true. i was speaking to the part about the fact that hillary clinton is not being held accountable. on the rigged election part i think his point is this, victor which sue don t have to agree with it. but for a lot of us republicans we saw bill clinton be accused of wrongdoing from women through a long stretch period of time when it looked like he would win the new hampshire primary. that was the first one. hillary clinton called bimbo eruption. we know the disgusting trail on that. can i finish. if i could just finish it would being a great. when it comes to donald trump you re running the clock. when it comes to donald trump what has happened with literally days to go, a couple of weeks to
go before the election right after the debate, right after the tape release all of a sudden these women come out right afterwards. for a lot of republicans that looks coordinated. it doesn t look spontaneous. you re not getting to the point. yes i am. i got the answer. they think it s rigged by the way the fact this was coordinated with the clinton political machine. robert? let s be clear. this is what you call the seven staefgs political failure. first you blame the media. then you come up with these wild conspiracies about your opponent. then you, in fact, claim the system is fixed against you. then of course as matt just did you accuse the fbi director of treason. in fact oh, stop, robert. that s absurd. i didn t talk over you. the american people see-through this. i didn t lie. this is a failing campaign because now donald trump is ultimately not ending up relying
upon hacked emails from vladimir putin and russia to justify his political existence. let s be clear. the american people have a very fair sense, a very good sense of decency and good sense of fairness. when they see donald trump praise vladimir putin as a leader, endorse vladimir putin s agenda in the middle east and for dismantdling nato and now they see put in turn release all sorts of what could be doctored emails, they are not authenticated, clearly to help the trump campaign. we can t all talk at the same time. can i speak to that, victor. give him a chance to finish. you now see all these emails released, dock toward and hacked emails from vladimir putin that helped donald trump, the american people see-through this. that s why it s not an issue. donald trump s candidacy is failing. i can speak there s no claim from the campaign these were dock toward emails. they have not been authenticated. let s be clear about what has
and has not been kblamd these emails. matt very quickly. i do want to get to wikileaks. hillary clinton was asked a question about these e-mail releases and she specifically answered the question to anderson cooper and compared herself to honest abe lincoln. she never said she questioned the veracity of the leaked emails. that s incorrect. that s not incorrect. that happened on cnn. members of the campaign staff said these emails many don t look recognizable. hillary clinton is the candidate and she answered the question. we got to take a break. we ll do this one at a time after the break. stay with us. we ll talk with you in a moment. thank you. everything your family touches sticks with them. make sure the germs they bring home don t stick around. use clorox disinfecting products.
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we want to talk about temp mams released from this hacking of john podesta s e-mail account released by wikileaks. you each characterize these emails and their veracity. i want to tried what the clinton spokesman is saying. we re still not confirming whether or not any of the wikileaks documents are authentic and therefore not commenting on their doesn t. so that is from the campaign. i want to first play to you something that we heard from hillary clinton about a really crucial part of the obama coalition that she needs to hold together to win in the 24 days, latino-americans. this is what she said a couple of weeks ago.
watch this. you re not intruders. you re our neighbors. our colleagues. our friends. our families. you make our nation stronger, smarter, more creative. and i want you to know that i see you and i am with you. all right. so then after that there was a part of this hacking, there was an e-mail from john podesta to hillary clinton the subject line, meeting latinos and one easy call listing people that hillary clinton should call. and it included former governor bill richardson former member of her husband s cabinet. it says richardson is still on tv a lot especially on univision and telemundo and he can be and we took the word out it begins with a d, worth getting him in a good place. so, at that event she speaks so highly of latinos her campaign
chairman considers people on this list media latino. reconcile those two for me, robert. first of all, victor, i have to say this quite sincerely the idea that we re even discussing emails that are not authenticated, emails hacked from russia according to our intelligence officials and in fact the idea this is driving the discussion i think is really very wrong and very dangerous. the bottom line is whatever the internal strategy that e-mail discusses about reaching out to certain individuals, i m very proud of hillary clinton, because she s articulated a vision for the country about bringing us together that is a very sharp contrast to donald trump and the racist hateful rhetoric that s defined his campaign. let me get the question out. before you jump to the attack and you talk about the stark contrast, there s a stark contrast between what she said there at the event and what her campaign chairman is saying here about media latinos.
no, it s not. the subject line is not you need to call these people it s media latinos. we don t know if that subject line is legitimate or not. that s an e-mail about calling a certain individual as opposed she s articulating a message that s sharply different. donald trump has been denounced for being racist. it s defining tissues that separate the two individuals. not these games about emails that you and i don t know are legitimate or not. matt, before you answer let me read bill richardson s response statement to the albuquerque journal . he writes this. i do not care about any characterization of me he made in an e-mail. i fully respect john and recognize the difficult job he has. so that s from the former governor. and matt your response.
well first of all, if the standard in this election that we ll only talk about charges that are factual and have been authenticated that ought to work on every topic including the first ten minutes of our conversation here. exactly. in the debate hillary clinton was asked a question by anderson cooper about one of these released wikis. she never said i questioned the authenticity. she answered the question about why she has both public and private positions and she justified it by saying she felt like honest abe lincoln did the same thing. the fact is this. what these emails show was the release of her transcripts from her speeches which she should have released a long time ago and there s many troubling things at all. your trouble at all robert the government of qatar gave bill clinton a million dollars cash so that they could have a five minute meeting with him to talk about redevelopment in haiti? they were proven to be false.
that s not false. robert, this is we have to clue people in what you re talking about. there was an earn mail that was sent that was on the occasion of the former president s birthday, the last million dollars that they wanted to give. the question was and we haven t gotten an answer remember cnn has been looking into this was what money handed over, of it to the foundation, we re still investigating that. fair enough. second of all, she said that we can t properly vet the syrian refugees. she said that when she thought that was in a private conversation giving a speech to a room. i think that s problematic. i don t like the fact she said robert let me finish. you ve been able to talk. i respect you. i m on tv a lot with you. i ll answer and then i ll be quiet. thirdly i think it s offensive these emails demonstrate a breathtaking anti-catholic bias when they call us extremely backwards. when they mock how we baptize our children. when they mock saints of the church. when they try to act
again mischaracterization. if they could have a coup inside the catholic church. amazingly bigoted statement to people of faith from a campaign whose only central theme we re deplorable and irredeemable and now we re severely backwards. she s running on no issues. robert go ahead. first let me just say i much rather have hillary clinton quoting abe lincoln than watching in fact donald trump in fact channel andrew dice claim and his commentary. that s the difference between two individuals. and the kind of fielt we re seeing from the trump campaign. that s not fair. i m not a liar. matt hold on he called me a liar. if we can talk one at a time we ll wrap it up right now. matt please hold on. robert finish up and then we got to go. very simply the idea we re looking to a man who brags about engaging in sexual assault.
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price in serving our country. we can answer that question tomorrow resoundingly yes, absolutely! think about how generations of americans throughout our history have come together to meet the tests of their time, our parents, our grandparents, our great grandparents defended democracy. they built the great american middle class. they marched for civil rights and voting rights for workers rights and women s rights. for lgbt rights an the rights of people with disabilities. and tomorrow we face the test of our time. so remember, it s not just my name or donald trump s name on the ballot, it s the kind of
in you believe we need to reform our criminal justice system so everyone is treated fairly, then you have to vote. and if you believe if you believe we should never write discrimination in to our laws [ cheers and applause ] well then, you know, you know, north carolina, you have to vote to get rid of hp-2. now, this is so energizing, we could keep going with a long
i want to thank gaga because she s always stood for that fundamental principle of respecting everybody. [ cheers and applause ] i want you to know and spread the word, i do want to be president for all americans, not just some, not just the people who support me and vote for me. i want to be president for everyone because we all have a role to play in building that better future for our country and for each of you. so if you haven t voted yet, go to iwillvote.com. you will get all the info you need an you can still sign up to volunteer, right? go to hillary clinton.com or
text join jo-o-i-n and we will welcome you to help make sure everyone gets out to vote tomorrow. because none of us want to wake up wednesday morning and wish we had done more, right? years from today when your kifds and grand kids ask what you did in 2016 when everything was on the line, you ll be able to say you voted for a stronger, fairer, better america. an america where we build
bridges, not walls. and where we prove conclusively that yes love trumps hate. thank you. thank you so much, north carolina. god bless you. thank you all. [ cheers and applause ] there you have it, folks. if you can believe it this may be the last time that you hear from candidate trump and candidate clinton before one of them is president elect. welcome to our cnn special live coverage of this historic election. this is it, the big finale to the most brutal campaign in recent memory. i want to welcome our viewers here at home and around the world. i m poppy harlow in new york. it is just past 1:00 in the morning and for hillary clinton and donald trump it is a late-night fight for every
single last vote. both candidates wrapping up duelling rallies. trump in michigan and north carolina. we have our reporters across the country and around the world for you as only cnn can do. as we count down the final hours until you go to the polls. start with phil mattingly in raleigh, north carolina. the final words, phil, love trump hate. here we are, the final words. it is interesting. that s a message that hillary clinton has had for a while. she shifted her message today, deliberately shifted her message today. take a listen to this. basically the point here is that hillary clinton for the last
couple of weeks has been trying to tear down donald trump and his candidacy. that stopped today. today it is about the future and looking forward in to an optimistic candidacy and how to most importantly govern should she win tonight. it s a big moment for the clinton campaign to make that shift, to transition away from the constant trump attack. it s one her advisers tell me is a deliberate choice. that s how good they feel about where they are in the race but also the recognition about how damaging the race has been and the healing process it s going to take over the next couple of weeks. poppy? phil, tell us about the crowd. obviously it is big, as is donald trump s crowd tonight. i saw a lot of young people. she talked a lot about college and making it tuition free. who was she trying to target tonight, trying to get undecided voters in a state that is so critical for her and in a state where the early data on the early voting there doesn t look
particularly strong for her. this is her second time in raleigh in five days and there s two good reasons for that. she is son the campus of nc state. the crowd is packed with college kids. we walked in and it was to capacity and there was a line 20 blocks around the campus. that s what the campaign wants to see. you nailed why. this is the purest of pure tossup states. you talk to clinton adviser and field staff. they have no idea how this will go. they feel okay about things. they felt they recovered in the early vote but this is a pure tossup that s why the message was dedicated to millennial voters today. these are the people clinton knows she needs to get out if the wants to win the state tomorrow. you heard the president pleading with the people of north carolina saying if you come out for clinton you will be what decides this election. that s right. you have seen surrogates all over the place make that point.
in florida, nevada, a number of different states, in michigan most recently. it s been here where you nailed it talking about the early vote. those numbers were not where they wanted them to be. there s a number of reasons you could say that, particularly in the african-american vote and it s worth noting. there s been a recovery in the african-american vote over the last couple of days in early voting but a lot of ground to make up. mitt romney won the state in 2012. democrats need to flip this state and need millennial and hispanic and black voters to do just that. it did go for president obama in 2008. as you said anything can happen h. phil mattingly live in raleigh. thank you so much. we want you to listen to part of donald trump. he just wrapped up perhaps his last campaign speech tonight in michigan. let s listen. michigan now stands at the cross roads of history. when you step in to that voting booth today it s now today,
there s one core question for you to consider do you want america to be ruled by the corrupt political class or do you want america to be ruled by you, the people? donald trump in michigan, a state that he thinks he can take out of democrats hands. we ll see if he can do that and crack in to the blue wall. we will see tomorrow when you go to the polls. in the meantime, the first in-prn election ballots cast in the town of dixville notch. who won? it is a tradition that dates back to 1960 when voters went for kennedy so, who won? well, poppy, the ballots were cast. the votes were tallied. clinton getting four votes.
trump getting two. johnson getting one and one of the dixville notch residents wrote in mitt romney. so there you have it here in dixville notch, clinton is beating trump but you know, poppy, i have to point out, dixville notch is not the only town that participates in the midnight voting tradition. there is millsfield and there is a quirky law in new hampshire that says if a town has less than 100 people they can close the polls once the registered voters have voted. poppy, i ll point out that collectively in these three towns that participate in midnight voting here in new hampshire trump is beating hillary clinton. trump getting 32 votes and hillary clinton having 25. team clinton, rachel, paying attention to tiny dixville notch tonight, one of the advisers tweeting they like the outcome.
yes, tweeting out they were happy about it. i m sorry. writing clinton campaign feeling very good about election day results thus far. they have a few more votes that need to be cast, though. that s right. he sent the tweet before those votes were tallied in harts location and millsfield. it is a coveted spot to wind, dixville notch s vote here. they are right in being proud of it but as i pointed out, trump is beating hillary right now in the polls that have been tallied on election day 2016 in new hampshire right now. new hampshire is again a really important state for both of them this time around. it could go either way. rachel, thank you very much. it s been leading up to this. it is officially election day in america. can you believe it? we will have every race and every result. stay with cnn until the last vote is cast. all-day live coverage today. election day in america right
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40% democratic and 38% of republicans. there was a huge surge in early voting but it also appears tore historic surge for hispanic voters, doesn t it? this is huge news, poppy, for the latino community. we have long expected the sleeping giant to make a difference. historic vote you are turnout not just in florida but across the country. here in florida specifically they could prove to be the most crucial the most critical swing state in the country. the break down here, you have older cubans who are more establishment republicans at odds with the younger cubans who could vote republican, adding to the complexities, you have thousands of newly arrived puerto ricans to the middle of the state. the i-4 corridor which is the most purple part of the state. you mentioned it has eclipsed
the number tw in 2000. putting in to context in the last 16 years, you have 3 million newly arrived residents. that has to do with historic voter turnout. they know the significance of the state and have spent a lot of time here in florida rally. hillary clinton here with joe biden and attacking this character of donald trump. both expect to went this critical state. they both expect and want it and need those 29 electoral votes. nick, thank you so much. let s go to pennsylvania. they are getting a lot of love in the keystone state in the final day of the 2016 election. both hillary clinton and donald trump stumping there on election eve in full get out the vote mode. there s no early voting in pennsylvania. so locking in the 20 electoral votes there comes down to today. that s why they were both there
today hillary clinton bringing with her president obama, first lady, former president clinton, her husband to the stage. and bon jovi and the boss. thunder road thunder road sara sidner is with us in philadelphia. where do i begin with those big name surrogates? who do you think made the most impact on the stage stumping for clinton? it s hard to say but every time michelle obama speaks she
gets this loudest cheers although her husband did as well. what you are hearing her is introducing herself to the crowd, as if they needed it and then sounds like she is trying to hand the baton over to hillary clinton hoping that hillary clinton will walk in her husband s footsteps. so i m honored to be here on the stage on the eve of this historic moment. i m also emotional because in many ways speaking here tonight is perhaps the last and most important thing that i can do for my country as first lady. let me take a moment to thank you, to thank the people of this country for giving our family the extraordinary honor of serving as your first family. huge cheers from the crowd but of course the clinton
campaign bringing out all of the guns, trying to make sure that people get to the polls, but trump not far behind them. he was in scranton and he s been going and burning this midnight oil to try to make sure his message gets out, even as we get in to the last few hours before the election. you are right five states for trump today alone and three for clinton. she is back on the plain to new york. trump heading back there, as well. tomorrow it is in the voters hands. sar sara sidner in philadelphia. thank you for being here. let me begin with you. good morning. five states, trump s final
blitz. florida, north carolina, new hampshire, pennsylvania, many eume michigan, not ohio. he could be there right now. i think he ran out of daylight. he pushed it about as hard as he could. i am shocked by the schedule they both kept. i think i m in good shape and i m not sure i could have kept the schedule they have kept the last year. sally, hillary clinton did a radio interview and here s what she said whether or not she plans to speak to trump tonight. listen. i will certainly expect to speak with him. i hope that he will, if i am successful, play a constructive role in doing just what i said,
coming together, bringing people who supported him to the table sally you want clinton to win. regardless of who wins tonight, to be a fly on the wall, to listen to that conversation, what do you hope it is like? i have to tell you, i spent the last couple of days around philadelphia with my family and my daughter. we did some door knocking to get her involved in democracy and teach her what is at stake. she is a way bigger hillary clinton supporter than i ever was and it was a tremendous, wonderful experience for the most part. i have to tell you the last day we were there, we were in a purple area of the philadelphia suburbs and, you know, not because we were just going about knocking on the doors we were told to knock but we had about five or six trump supporters approach us, approach our group with eight kids, six adults and,
you know, yell at us. yell at us about how can we support pro-abortion candidate. she s a sinner. how can we support this crook. she s crooked. in front of our kids. i have to tell you having done this before in previous elections, i ve never seen that level of animosity, hostility, anger, vitriol. you hope the candidates won t be like that. i hope that if trump loses, by the way, if not i m popping xanax. if it comes to that, if he is conceding i hope he is doing it in a gracious way that says, look some of the anger, hostility, i contributed to, i m going to now heal. i m going to take an actual leadership responsibility for once in this election and i m going to put an end to that kind of anger.
let s listen to the president. we heard from the first lady. let s listen to president obama in philadelphia. i m betting that men across this country will have no problem voting for the more qualified candidate who happens to be a woman. i m betting that african-americans will vote in big numbers because this journey we have been on was never about the color of the president but the content of his or her character. i m betting that america will reject politics and resentment, the politics of blame and choose the politics that says we are stronger together. taking from martin luther king jr. 56% approval right now for him. michelle obama very well liked. how much do you think, if she wins, if clinton wins the obamas in this final push have moved the needle? very important.
obviously the final days as the polls have gotten narrower in many of the battleground states has turned to the issue of turnout. hillary clinton has had trouble with younger voters and african-american voters. whereas i think president obama brings a kind of fire power. 17 times he has campaigned for her. that is unheard of for a sitting president. closest was reagan and bush in 88 but even that was more tepid. usually incumbent presidents are saddled with either some scandal baggage or unpopular like president bush was in 2008. so they are away from the campaign trail. that s not been the case. almost as if he is running. aside from stumping until 1:00 in the morning, the candidates are making their message heard in the final hours. clinton and trump released these ads two minutes long but very different. here s a clip of both of them.
look, we all know. we have come through some hard economic times and seen some big changes, but i believe in our people. i love this country. i m convinced our best days are still ahead of us if we reach for them together. the political establishment as brought about the destruction of our factories and our jobs as they flee to mexico, china and other countries all around the world. the only thing that can stop this corrupt machine is you. so overall clinton had a more positive tone. donald trump saw a little at though end there but more positive and focused on progress. what do you make of the strategies in the final hour. clinton has had so many negative ads. most using trump s own words against him. by releasing this two-minute, much more positive ad tonight, a couple of hours ago, clinton trying to create a more positive
energy and a reck sill toir energy, as well. donald trump said his last ad is positive. it s a bleak message about the political establishment, the global power structure. he s promising to take pow per back on behalf of the american people. he is taking his own speech and running it in these commercials. listening to your panel talk about the experience, the fear around this election, though, this is exposed some uncomfortable truths about america. donald trump and hillary clinton did not create this hyper polarization we live in. they can choose to make it worse or better later today. people want more time. they will get more time. i have to get a break in here. coming up for us, the entire world waiting for the outcome of america s election. many people, especially in mexico. that is wherelav
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no puppet. that wall is getting taller with every interview. getting taller, taller. it s getting up there, i ll tell you what. with me live tonight in mexico city ed is ed. in mexico you have to look no further than the currency, the peso to see how anxious people are about the election. from rich to poor this this country people are paying attention for that reason. there s been a great deal of fluctuation with the value of the mexico peso compared to the u.s. dollar. that has been very much connected in many ways to the fate of donald trump and this election. back on sunday, when the announcement by the fbi that it
would not pursue charges against hillary clinton and the case was closed the value of the peso jumped up 2% in the aftermath of all of that. despite all of that, the economic concerns of what it means when you talk to people on the streets of the city over and over, to a person, everyone says they have been severely insulted by what they view as racist and xenophobic speech coming from donald trump. in many ways they view he catapulted himself to the top of the republican field by maligning and insulting mexican immigrants an the mexican country. a lot of anger toward donald trump. walk i through the sentiment of the russian people on the eve of this election. especially given the tension in in the past few weeks, really increasing between the white house and the kremlin.
the white house pointing the finger at the kremlin and putin saying you have meddled in this election. extraordinary the extent to which russia has become a campaign issue in this presidential race over hacking and various issues, as well, the links with donald trump and russia allegedly. the kremlin officially, position is they don t have any skin in the game. for the the american people to decide. if you watch state media controlled by the kremlin you get a message that there is one candidate they prefer over the other and it is quite clearly donald trump and they see him as somebody who shairs a russian world view on various issues, nato for instance, syria and support for assad there. and the kremlin-controlled media has taken a one-sided approach to covering this u.s. election. of course that is ordinary people, as well.
their favorite candidate, as a result of that, is donald trump. we will watch the reaction there, as well after the votes are tallied here. matthew chance, live in moscow, thank you so much. u.s. security teams are watching for signs that russia or any other foreign actor or hackers may try to interfere with election day through cyberattacks. sources say right now there are no known cyberthreats that would likely effect voting or the vote count. thank you for joining me. good to be with you. you told my colleague jake tapper this week that russia is capable of doing damage in this election. in the last 24 hours, have you heard of any credible cybcybe cyber threats, voter registration, location news, anything that could affect the outcome of this election?
you know, i haven t heard anything in the last 24 hours, but we the reality we have seen russian meddling in the election for months now. it takes no leap of faith they can continue and likely will continue to interfere. it may not be on election day, although they have potential to cause mischief on election day but i think we can expect whoever wins the election they will continue to hack and dump information if they think they can weaken the u.s. president. unless we establish a strong deterrent we are likely to see more of this from russia. we appear to have dodged a bullet. that s one of the things that concerned me up to this point is that russia was going to start to do what they have been doing in europe and that is not only hacking and dumping documents but massively forging information. that would have been difficult to prove a forgery in the last few days of the campaign. we may have dodged that bullet,
but i think we are likely to see continued there is a rigged system, folks. totally rigged. absolutely rigged a crooked system. issue of voter fraud. do you believe that russia and putin have already scored a victory in this election before a seingle vote has been counted some early votes in but by making americans less confident in the system as a whole? i think they have in part achieved that objective by giving americans less confidence in the result by sowing dischord. so yes they have accomplished some of their objectives.
i think it is important for me american people to realize part of the reason they have been able to do this is because they have had a willing party in donald trump. if we had a typical election where the republican standard bearer shared the views about concern of the nature of the russian government, and spoke out against russian hacking rather than inviting further hacking it would be more difficult for the russians if you didn t have someone saying the election is rigged and all of this thing. that has so played in to russian hands. it is has amplified the mischief the russians wanted to create. as you know the way that pump puts it in response to what you are arguing he said wouldn t it be a good thing if the united states got along with russia. if there was a stronger relationship between the white house and the kremlin. he said that would be more productive than what he points to as a failed russian reset on
the part of hillary clinton when she was secretary of state. your response to that? my response is would it be nice, sure it would be nice but that is fantasy land. this is someone who invaded his neighbor, seized crimea. he does expect if he says something nice to putin he will leave ukraine, 0 or stop bombing civilians in aleppo, yi don t think that will happen. stop bombing nato aircraft, i don t think that will happen. so we have tried to establish a productive relationship with russia. they are not interested. part of what putin believes is in order to drive up his popularity domestically he needs a bad guy to be against and the united states is that bad guy. frankly, i think trump is naive to think that a few kind words on his part will change that. i don t think that any commander in chief of the united states should be prepared to, as trump
suggested, recognize russia s illegal annexation of crimea. as you point out, russia and putin have plenty of problems domestically, especially when it comes to russia s economy and what it means for their citizens. before i let you go, the white house has vowed the u.s. will respond to russian hacks but haven t made clear of how or when. you said unless russia pays a high price they will continue to meddle in u.s. affairs. i wonder from your perspective and where you sit, on the intelligence review, what should that retaliation look like, sanctions, counter hack, what would be most effective? what would putin listen to? i think what would get the kremlin s attention is if we work with countries in europe that have been the subject of similar meddling by russia and we impose additional sanctions on russia. their economy is their weakest point. a discussion of sanctions sets
putin off. so plainly they are sensitive to additional economic pain and i would couple that with a cyberresponse so putin understands and it doesn t have to be something made public but putin understands he is vulnerable, too. this is no free lunch for the kremlin and if they are going to meddle this way they could be exposed in ways that could be bad for putin. i think in a overt and covert way we should respond. thank you for being with me tonight. pleasure. thank you. it s election day. 1:40 in the morning on election day. you are excited. you can t sleep. we re not sleeping. why bother trying to sleep? stay right here. coming up in our live special election coverage next. i m going to be the greatest jobs president that god ever created. there s only one of us on
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this election. the phrase made famous during bill clinton s run for the white house still holds true today. from jobs, wages stock market speaking to the stock market, the dow scored 371 points, the biggest gain after james comey cleared hillary clinton in the e-mail investigation. the markets read that as fafrlible for clinton s run. stocks jumped on the news, why? no, the markets aren t in love withic hillary clinton but they hate uncertainty. and trump is more of an unknown and comes with unpredictable on big issues like trade. meanwhile, the s&p 500 could fall 3 to 500 if trump wins. and deutsche bank stocks could also fall if trump wins. joining us, ben stein, lonnie chan, a republican who is not supporting trump.
ben, are these predictions too dire? i mean, the u.s. economy has been through a lot. dare i say the fundamentals of the economy are strong? can i say that, harkening back to john mccain? but are these predictions too dire? way too dire. if the economy is extremely strong. and by the way, citi group doesn t have a crystal ball of predicting the future of stocks, neither dois deutsche bank. mr. trump s claim he is going to be the greatest creator of jobs god has ever created is non-sense. there is nothing in his proposal he has set forth that would lead anybody to believe that. nobody believes that, but god bless him any way: but the main thing is the economy is rather strong. people have dropped out of the
labor force, and neither of the candidates has a good idea on how to get people back into the ligament force. there are good numbers out there. but ben makes the exact important point that those numbers don t for the people most this need, those are people who have been out of work so long they have given up looked. they are not even counted. when you look at the reality of this situation how helpful is a report like this for clinton? only to the extent it s been covered in a way to suggest that the economy and labor markets in particular are doing well. i think obviously the bigger concern sufficient got people as you have note who had dropped out of the labor force. you have got people in part-time work but want full-time work. so the measure of how the labor market is doing jenlely is not as rosie. big issue going forward is two candidates, both who put out
policies that could be problematic. on the trump end you have got policies that would restrict immigration and restrict trade. on the clinton side it s unclear whether she would address the debt and the debt load going forward causes problems as well. when you look at the tax plans, they say ben stein that hillary clinton s plan, when it comes to taxes would reduce the national debt by $5.4 trillion in 20 years. trumps would add $20 trillion over 20 years. look, your concern is do you like anything about trump s tax plan more than clinton s even if you are not a fan of the candidate? yes, i do. i like the idea of reducing the corporate tax. there shouldn t be corporate tax at you will. it should be taxed to the owner of the corporation not taxed a
the corporate level. and i like repealing the estate tax because i d like my son and graun daughter to get as much as possible. but i don t think there is anything going on in trump s tax plan that s going to lead to a growth in jobs. i i m sure he want a big growth in jobs. there is nothing going on that s going to lead to that. and nothing in mrs. clinton s tax plan that is going to lead to a growth in jobs. we have a fall in freight movement. that s a worrisome sign. corporate profits have been falling steadily for the last several quarters. i would like to have somebody address what we are going to do if there is a recession. it is a important point. this has been a bull run for the markets. over seven years. if history is a indicator, then ben stein may be right that we are on the cusp of another recession? yeah, and i don t think either candidate really has come
out to address that particular issue. i mean it keeps clear that hillary clinton would pursue fiscal stimulus similar to what he we saw in the first year of president obama s term. donald trump, it s unclear exactly what he would do because a lot of his policy has been fuzzy. but obviously, the economy, i think, is while it has done better over these last several quarters i think it s still in a fragile state going forward. this is something unquestionably the next president is going to have to deal with. ben stein, do you believe that this election, regardless who wins is the death knell for the big global trade greechlts, trump says he would rip up nafta, hillary clinton liked tpp until it wasn t the gold standard until she was pushed a lot by the left. she said it was when she read the final draft, is the the end of the global agreements now in

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father s administration. jeff zeleny is outfront in new york. we learned ivanka trump, jared kushner are going to move to washington. now, that s a pretty stunning thing, right, if you think about the fact ivanka trump said she will have no role in her father s administration. this is a clear signal she s going to be right by her father s side. maybe she doesn t have a technical title. she s staying in her job at the trump organization. what can you tell us? reporter: something they have to work out and sort through. they ve already had missteps here in the first month of this transition meeting with the world leader, the first meeting that her father had with the prime minister of japan, and, but erin, it s clear that they are still trying to sort through this. the american presidency is not simply set up for a family like this so they re going to be making the rules as they go along, but we are told they are planning to move to washington. they re looking for houses there at the very least. she s going to have a key role inside the white house from a social aspect as well as a
policy aspect. al gore, of course, was there to talk about climate change with her initially. so that shows that she s going to have a very important role in the west wing. when you talk about a social role, of course, in contrast to melania trump who said she s not going to be moving until the end of the year. raises the question of ivanka playing a bigger role, perhaps, than policy. you talk about her being in on that meeting, though, with the prime minister of japan and also at the same time finalizing a business deal that would be for the trump organization in japan. that is something that should be raising red flags, isn t it? it certainly is raising a lot of flags and it certainly is opening them up to questions and criticism. again, there s not a rule book for this so on one hand you have the wall street journal editorial page saying he has to sell everything to avoid con fliblon fli conflicts of interest. look, these conflicts are inherent, almost impossible to see how they will avoid all of them here. but i am told by someone who s
close to the family that she will not be attending anymore of these meetings one-on-one here. that they re simply trying to work through here. but this is going to be an ethics potential minefield, erin. potential minefield at the least. executive editor of cnn politics, mark preston. jamie gangell. phillip bump, and correspondent for the new york times, maggie haberman. i want to talk about the incredible al gore meeting because it is incredible, okay? first i want to talk about the ivanka trump situation. moving to washington, at least they re looking for houses, reporting we have. melania trump going to wait six months at least so her son can finish his year at school. ivanka trump possibly going even earlier. how can that happen while she s at the trump organization? they say there s no rules but there is this rule. common sense shows that this does not make sense. right, but there are no rules. remember those tax returns, they were never put out there. and the other thing that i think you have to remember, so on
twitter donald trump said that on december 15th, he s going to make a big announcement to show that they re he s going to step away from the business. the problem is he also used an interesting phrase. he said even though it s not mandated. and i think that s what you re going to see here. there are no rules. if it s not the law, they re going to be the new rules of donald trump and the kids are going to be there and he s going to be there. i think we re talking about a whole new set maggie, you got the new york times reporting that when nancy pelosi called right after the election, donald trump handed the phone to his daughter. she was in the room with the prime minister of japan. sheryl sandberg from facebook, ardent hillary clinton supporter called ivanka trump. al gore meeting with ivanka trump. she s central. she s central. you have to unpack those
different pieces, though. the al gore meeting, ivanka trump wants to signal to democrats she s the reasonable person around donald trump. that helps her for her own brand, helps her basically as a bridge for her father and frankly it helps al gore to be seen doing this meeting, if we re being honest. in terms of the japanese prime minister, that was a very specific problem especially because there was no readout or photo from the u.s. side in terms of the media. all came from japan. i think that you are it s funny, jeff s point that the presidency is not set up for a family like this is really true. we have never seen this sprawling level of entanglements and for the trumps, this sounds like i m excuse making, i m not at all because it s severely complicated, but really after covering them for 18 months, they know no other way. they see everything as a family decision. the pick of mike pence as the v.p. was described to me at the time and even as recently as last week as a family decision. they re going to have to realize that the presidency is a people decision, but i think that it s not that they re starting out on
a land grab, or on a, you know, access grab, they don t really know another way and they are going the same way the rest of us are into this brave new world. of course, there s only one way to separate this, sell the company and put the money in the trust. that s the only way. there is no way for the children in any way, shape or norm to be involved in the business while their father is president and not be conflicts of interest. countries are going to do things for that company they think would reflect well in their diplomatic dealings. that s the way it s going to be even if they re not trying to do anything untoward. right. no, that s absolutely true. we re already seeing that with this trump hotel down the block from the white house where all these foreign companies foreign governments are booking rooms trying to show, you know, some sort of respect. openly saying, osf course, i want to book my room announcing it. all very publicly. the question is the extent to which the trump family even wants to try and make this separation. right? having ivanka trump move to
washington, supposed to be running the trump organization based in trump tower, not supposed to have a role in the administration because of nepotism rules nor is her husband for the same reason. why are you moving to washington? the only reason you re moving to washington is to leverage that influence. you shouldn t be leveraging that influence the same time you re running the trump organization. she s leveraging it with meetings like al gore. look, people can change. once people get in power, people who hated them then change their minds. i understand the pragmatic reality. here s al gore today. here s al gore a few months ago. i had a lengthy and very productive session with the president-elect. it was a sincere search for areas of common ground. her opponent based on the ideas that he has presented would take us toward a climate catastrophe. and? i mean, okay, you know what, climate catastrophe, common ground, those things can be very
close. he is not the only person who walked into that lobby, got onto that elevator and gone up to the top floor who has said bad things about donald trump. i mean, it s political pragmatism in many ways. if al gore thinks he can somehow wedge his way in because he doesn t think that donald trump has the convictions of what he said in 2012 when he described climate change as a hoax and it was brought on by the chinese, of course, the new york times just a few weeks ago does an interview and says there is some connectivity, you know, to it. al gore probably sees it i think it s super important in this is two things. when you talk about the conflict of interest, senate democrats really blew it because they could not investigate. they do not have any power now to really use congress to go after donald trump and on the flip side, though, house and senate republicans are in a real tough spot right now because all of this could overshadow them trying to get things done. it s also problematic because his agenda is not quite the same as theirs on policy. oh, sure. you have a dual track.
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according to police he entered the restaurant after reading clinton and her campaign were running a child sex ring inside. of course that story was completely false. the white house attacking these baseless claims today saying they re having a corrosive effect on america s political debate. brian stelter is outfront. reporter: fake news, real gunfire. a north carolina man arrested in a d.c. pizza shop after brandishing a gun. telling police he was there to investigate a conspiracy theory called pizza-gate. one of the hosts runs up and is like, did you see that guy? you know, he had a big gun. we actually thought initially that he was a staff member because he was walking straight for that backroom. staff member kind of looked at me and indicated that this was a gunman. reporter: edgar welch appearing in court this afternoon. according to police, welch said he had read online that the comet ping-pong restaurant was harboring child sex slaifs avesh wanted to see for himself if they were there. the suspect said he was armed to help rescue them.
the accusation came from this unhinged story that originated online days before the election saying that hillary clinton and her campaign chairman john podesta were operating a child sex ring. the lie took root in the digital swamps of twitter and far right-wing websites. we re not covering pizza-gate enough even though we covered it every day. to expose the satanism and the code words for pedophilia. reporter: october 30th, clinton hating, trump loving twitterer claimed a police sort said clinton was at the center of the pedophilia ring. others latched onto this seemingly hoping it was true scouring dark corners of the web for possible clues. this is how conspiracy theories are threaded together. lie by lie. eventually, a name stuck, pizza-gate and the believers started harassing the owner of the pizza place. we received many, many, many calls, but really they re from around the world so we didn t expect anyone to come. reporter: on sunday, the suspect fired his weapon.
no one was hurt. with detectives still on the scene in d.c., pizza-gate believers were already claiming this real development was just part of a cover-up. the media is claiming that this is because of pizza-gate. this is very dangerous fake news. anybody claiming that the gunman today at comet pizza had anything to do with pizza-gate is lying. brian stelter is with me along with kayleigh mcenany, a conservative columnist. let me start with you, that man right there, just take a second to think about he just said. the guy who went in with the gun, all right, and discharged it, he said he went in because of this story. yes. this fake story. right. that guy there we heard said it s completely made up, the gun man was an actor. what is this? these pizza-gate believers some of them today say this was all a hoax, this incident, this real-life incident at the pizza shop was all made up trying to cover up the real conspiracy. you know, nose people are not
going to be believe this report. hopefully the vast majority of people still on planet earth can deal with the truth. i mean, here s the stunning thing, kayleigh, michael flynn jr., i want to emphasize jr., that s the new national security, or the nominated national security adviser s son, tweeted on sunday, i ll read his tweet, until pizza-gate proven to be false, it will remain a story. the left seems to forget podesta e-mails and many, quote, coincidences tied to it. that s pretty stunning, okay? i mean, this story is a lie. it is wrong. how could someone like that come out and tweet this? that this could possibly be true? look, i don t think flynn s son should be tweeting this. he should take down the tweet, but i do want to emphasize this is two degrees removed from donald trump. this is the son of the national security adviser. this didn t come from michael flynn, himself. it likewise did not come from donald trump. i do think this pizza restaurant has a good lawsuit on their hands, but i really do want to emphasize now, though, the
extreme fringe right wing has nothing to do with mainstream right wing, just like the 9 /12 9/11 truthers didn t have anything to do with the this is the fringe element of the right just like we have the fringe element of the left. okay, you make a fair point there but there s this one problem. sorry, naira, his father s son, also his father s chief of staff, his top aide. sorry. he has a government transition e-mail. he s involved. general flynn tweeted on november 2nd you decide, nypd blows whistle, must read. what do you say? this is what you end up having when you start creating a culture and people who are in leadership positions with large blow horns and millions of twitter followers start saying things like the mainstream media is terrible. you can t believe anything you hear on tv or read in newspapers. people start to look for alternative sources of information that, frankly, aren t backed up by any investigative reporting or any of the principles of ethical
journalism. so this is, in that sense, directly connected to donald trump and the conspiracy ne theorists that surrounded him. the new white house senior adviser is going to be steve bannon. breitbart is also part of the alt-right movement. conspiracy theories are often featured on that website. speaking of general flynn, i understand his son has a transition account, official government account. certainly he should be held accountable. with the national security adviser actually tweeting these types of conspiracy theories it leads to questioning his judgment and whether or not it was a joiquke, should be made cr if he thought it was a joke. people take this when people in power say things on twitter accounts, it gets taken very seriously. we certainly need to be holding our leaders accountable. kayleigh, does it sconcern you erin go ahead. it s important mike flynn sr. was tweeting about something entirely different. it wasn t pizza-gate. it was another child sex ring
scandal conspiracy theory. but it was not hold on, nayyera, he me point out, though, what he was suggesting actually had some basis and truth. there s a man named jeffrey epstein who was convicted of child pornography, bill clinton took several flights with this individual, there was some real questions as to why these flights weren t on the books, what happened on are we really going to do this? there are two separate things. again, trying to parse all of this information about this connection with that connection, this is exactly how conspiracies start and this is exactly the type of logic and reasoning that we need to all be working against and start working with facts. i mean, this is a post-fact universe that we re working in. nayyera kayleigh, should trump bear responsibility, himself, to say enough? enough? i don t believe even no. even in private to tell these people, stop with this,s i don t want to see you tweet like this, i don t want to see these things, they re lies and they re hateful. doesn t he bear some of the responsibility when some of this is coming from people within his inner circle?
you had the president of kayleigh, that was to you. does president obama have the responsibility to say i disavow the 9/11 truthers? no. nayyera, your party has gone around with false, false, trump is racist, a xenophobic. if we want to talk about conspiracy theories, your party is responsible for it. sure, let s talk about what happened just in my neighborhood. comet pizza is a couple blocks away from me. this is very personal. actually a few blocks in the other direction, you had two weeks ago a bunch of white supremacists who held an event and said hail trump. this is actually in trump s new backyard, not something he disavowed, happen in his own neighborhood. usually when there are gun shootings in where a president or president-elect is, there is some sort of statement or denouncement of that or any kind of horrific attack. we haven t seen that. we haven t seen any time the kkk
endorsed him or david duke or any white supremacists were advocating on his behalf, he never said i disassociate myself from those people. hardly disconnect to say that by when he has people who are supporting him actively campaigning for him, if he doesn t disavow them he has repeatedly final word here to brian. let me give the final word to brian. i was going to say about this issue of twitter, for a man who s so well known for tweeting, has a great grasp of the medium, hasn t bothered tweeting about oakland today, never mind this issue of what happened at comet ping-pong, never mind the broader issue about racism and hate and harassment. i find it strange sometimes what he chooses to tweet about. he complained about the media today but none of these specific issues that are on the table. all right. thanks very much to all. next, trump s controversial phone call to taiwan. trump advisers today, one of them now saying screw them to china. and the breaking news, a judge declaring a mistrial in the case of a white police officer who shot and killed an unarmed black man. shot him multiple times in the
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china. the president-elect s economic adviser steven moore says if beijing doesn t like the president-elect s controversial phone call to taiwan s president, screw them. trump has been under fire for that call because taiwan is still technically at war with china, in part, on twitter, trump did not back down, in fact, he upped the ante here to make that call. today the white house warning trump s actions could have serious consequences. some of the progress that we have made in our relationship with china could be undermined by this issue flaring up. and, of course, trump does a lot of business. he benefits from doing business in china. and across asia. miguel marquez is outfront. reporter: taiwan s largest development project ever. the largest development project ever sounds right up donald trump s alley. gateway of taiwan and to asia. reporter: and just maybe it
is. trump s protocol-breaking phone call with the president of taiwan is the first time the u.s. has publicly admitted speaking with the leader of taiwan since 1979. raising new questions about trump s intentions. trump advisers say it was a routine congratulatory call, but the mayor issued a statement saying a miss chen with the trump organization discussed investment opportunities in september but they haven t heard from her or the trump organization since. interviewed on china s mas tv, the mayor says chen had documents issued by the trump company and his company is interested in taiwan. miss chen has since been identified as charlene chen who described herself to the wall street journal as a sales ambassador for trump properties, but not an employee. a trump organization
spokesperson says there have been no thorszed vis edauthoriz taiwan on behalf of our brand for the purposes of development nor are there any active conversations. but a trump organization employee ann marie duonahue mad a business trip to taiwan in october, that according to a post on her facebook page that has since been deleted. i love china. reporter: but trump s business ties to mainland china go far deeper than anything in taiwan. the biggest bank in the world is from china. you know where their united states headquarters is located? in this building. in trump tower. reporter: china s icbc is the biggest tenant in trump tower, says bloomberg news, paying nearly $2 million a year. that lease comes up in 2019. and bank of china says the new york times is providing some
financing on a $950 million loan on a building trump partly owns on manhattan s sixth avenue. trump s 2011 book, he writes get it straight, china is not our friend, he sees us as the enemy. this while he was pursuing very big deals in china that didn t actually pan out. it seems this is sort of his m.o., keep your opponents, your adversary on their back foot to confuse things, say one thing, do another. it works in business. we ll see how it works in the presidency. erin? all right, miguel, thank you. back with me, kayleigh mcenany, nayyera haq, jamie gangel. you talked to very senior members of the former bush administration. what have they been telling you? so i have to tell you they were not so concerned that this call took place. they say it s okay to ba little l unpredictable. he s president-elect, not president yet. that said, despite all this reporting that this was all
planned out, they were not under the impression it was planned out and what they re concerned about is winging it. if there s a genuine strategy behind doing something like this, then that s one thing, but they were concerned that, you know, not just taiwan, when he spoke to the british prime minister, he said if you re ever in washington, come and see me. pakistan, you re fantastic. extraordinary. that s what they don t like. this needs to be a thoughtful process. so kayleigh, how close is trump toward what could be the most crucial decision here that we are awaiting, right? we understand he s very close to making a decision but he has greatly enjoyed the public parading of secretary of state candidates, sort of the casting call for lack of a better word. when is that decision going to be made? that person is ostensibly going to bear the burden of figuring all this stuff out. absolutely. it seems donald trump recognizes the gravity of secretary of
state. this is arguably his most important cabinet appointee he s going to make or to call. and every day we re seeing more names. you know, we ve heard almost a dozen names at this point. it does seem to me from what i ve read and what i ve researched that romney seems to no longer be the leading contender. we see a lot of dark horses coming out. potentially robert gates, i know, but i think it s good that trump is taking his time. i think it s good that he s meeting with people who are critical of him like romney and gates. i wouldn t underestimate rudy giuliani. he may just in the end come out to be the one who is selected. i think that would be an excellent choice. dark horses, jamie. robert gates is a dark, dark horse. so robert gates has said, no, he s not going into the trump administration. he wrote a scathing op-ped. but he just spent two days at trump tower giving people advice. and i will tell you this, there are a number of gop establishment people and i say that as a good thing, professionals who would love
nothing more than if bob gates i don t know that trump is interested, but they see bob gates and general mattis as the dream team. and they got general mattis. bob gates wrote a scathing op-ped, okay. we covered it extensively. it was as nasty as it gets. and trump responded in kind. he did. so a couple things that donald trump said, just only back in september about bob gates. i ve never former defense secretary robert gates. he knows nothing about me but look at the results under his guidance. a total disaster. which is definitely not ringing endorsement for secretary of state. never went on to say, never met, never liked dopey robert gates. that s the best part, right? dopey. look at the mess he s always in, always speaks badly of his many bosses including obama. what s interesting about this, if he does choose someone like robert gates or asks him at least, we don t know if he would accept, says something trump is willing to pivot off his personal animosity toward people to take somebody into his administration that actually
knows what they re doing on a certain subject. nayyera, trump is reportedly considering seven people for this job. kayleigh pointed out it s rudy giuliani or mitt romney. now up to seven. jon huntsman under barack obama. gop presidential candidate, but perhaps more important is the china part of his resume. also on that list. how likely is it that trump will do what mark just said and consider somebody that has insulted him and hated him in the past? well, it should be very interesting, this is clearly a really important appointment. it s taken quite some time. especially if he s going to be making calls to foreign leaders as we ve seen and making the types of commitments he s made behoove him to actually engage and pin down this appointment sooner rather than later. we need somebody as secretary of state that the president-elect will actually listen to and the president-elect prides himself on not necessarily being diplomatic, not playing nice in the sand box. we need somebody who will.
at the same token, we have all of these state department officials who are overseas in embassies who are waiting to just help and provide nonpartisan expertise. nobody in the trump campaign is engaging with them sorry, the trump transition is engaging with them and the president-elect has also opted not to have the daily intelligence briefings. so we have somebody who s talking to foreign leaders who doesn t understand the countries or the nuances of what s going on. really need to have somebody in that position as secretary of state that hopefully he ll listen to. all right. thanks to all. and by the way, what bob gates wrote about donald trump in part, he is unqualified and unfit to be commander in chief. right. critical of hillary clinton as well, erin. he was. he did say between the two he would pick her but it was hardly a ringing endorsement. all right. next, the breaking news. no decision in the trial of police officer michael sleigher who shot an unarmed black man in the back multiple times as he was running away. they re not anywhere close to each other. so we all saw this tape.
the jury, though, unable to come back with a verdict. jill stein pressing recounts in three states that trump narrowly won. she s my guest, next. at the marine mammal center, the environment is everything.
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tonight the presidential recount now under way in michigan, officials hand counting nearly 5 million ballots after a federal judge ruled the recount must begin an begin immediately. trump s lead in the state, as you can see, is just shy of 11,000 votes. the other states where recounts are being called for, wisconsin, trump s lead there, 22,000. pennsylvania it is now down to ta do 47,000. shy of that. green party candidate dr. jill stein, standing outside trump tower, she vowed to escalate her fight in pennsylvania to a federal lawsuit usualing tru iu let the recounts proceed. outfront now, jill stein. dr. stein, thank you for taking the time. great to be with you, erin. i want to talk about the recount. first, you were outside trump tower today. al gore, former vice president was also at trump tower today to talk climate change. he met with donald trump. he said it was a sincere and productive conversation. a few weeks ago at a rally for hillary clinton he said trump would create a climate catastrophe.
does it trouble you al gore would take a meeting and describe it so positively today? you know, it doesn t trouble me. i find it strange. i m not sure i believe it. i don t know what s going on. you know, i i am concerned, obviously, about where donald trump stands. he s had a very consistent history. he s highly invested, for example, in the dakota access pipeline. is he going to respect the recent decision not to grant a permit and require an environmental impact study? yeah, i mean, i think you have to judge donald trump by his record which is very clear which is rather disastrous. but i have to say, it s not been great under the democratic party, either. hillary clinton, you know, supports fracking. donald trump supported coal. both have been absolutely catastrophic. we should not be building new fracking pipelines and infrastructure either. as far as i m concerned, they both have a long way to go, and i d like to see al gore, for that matter, step up to what we really require, which is 100%
renewable energy, clean renewable energy by 2030. so on the issue of the recount, you have said the president-elect, donald trump, and his campaign are scared and trying to obstruct the recount process. why do you think that? why do you think that they re scared? well, because they re doing everything they can to stop transparency and accountability. you would think that they would be confident in their victory. you could think that they would support the democratic process. what is wrong with counting the votes? you know, when there s a question about where a ball landed in football or in tennis, you know, we review the tapes and we see where exactly it landed. we should have the capacity to do that in every election. there should be automatic audits of every election and we should just be getting rid of this very disaster-prone, tamper-prone, hacking-prone, electronic touchscreen machines. okay. let me ask you a question about this, though, because the margins of victory here seem very close. if you re a person out there,
you re watching, you say 10,000 votes, 10,700 votes in michigan, 5.5 million ballots cast. you immediately say, okay, that makes sense that that would be a recount. jeffrey toobin who wrote the book about the recount in florida in the year 2000 says the most number of votes that will switch is 500 votes. he says there s no way this outcome will change. are you concerned that you are hurting confidence in the system? especially by people on the left who are upset that trump won, when the results won t change? well, let me just say, we saw in ohio in 2004 after the fact in a court case that there were 90,000 votes that were mistakenly read as blank in toledo, in an african-american heavily democratic-leaning district, those votes were basically blanked out. had they been counted, there s no question that would have changed the outcome in ohio. it s just not true that only a couple hundred votes here and there change. we don t know, but the purpose here is not to change the outcome. let me say that the purpose here is to create a process that we can trust. we cannot sweep american
cynicism, american distrust, after this very bitter and divisive election, we need to be confident in our voting system that we have counted every vote and respected american voter. i hear you, but donald trump was under great criticism, at the debate he said i ll see what the results are before i say if i accept them. some people say that s you now. here s his campaign manager kellyanne conway yesterday talking to you. i was asked on this program and many others that will you accept the election results? the question for jill stein and hillary clinton and those who just are still in the grief, anger and denial stages, will you start moving over to acceptance? well, i m wouldn t you be incredibly critical of donald trump if he was doing this to hillary clinton right now? in my view, we should have recounts whenever there is a very close race. we do. we have laws. .2%, .3, whatever it is. we done ha t have awe dids a using extremely unreliable voting machines, electronic machines that have been known to
miscount or discount tens of thousands of votes at a time, so i was asked throughout the election, if there was concern about the credibility and integrity of the vote, would i stand up and call for a recount in i sau i always said yes. this should have been done during the democratic primary when there were concerns about votes stripped from the voter rolls in brooklyn. hundreds of thousands of votes not counted in california. to me mind, that should have been a call for a recount and i always said in the presidential race, if it fell to me to raise questions and ensure that voters have a voting system we can believe in and that we can trust, i would always step up to the plate and call for a recount. it didn t matter who the winner is. that s the problem with donald trump s thinking here. i think there was enormous resonance with his concern that the vote was rigged. so you do this you would have done this to hillary clinton, too ? i would have done this no matter what if there was doubt about the vote, we should address that and not sweep it under the rug.
the american people are very concerned. we do not have faith in our political system, in the election, in our public institutions. you know, lack of faith is really at a high, all-time high level whether you re looking at political parties, the judiciary, the congress, the executi executive, media for that matter. this is a time for accou accountability and transparency. let s earn the trust of the american people. dr. stein, thank you very much. i appreciate your time tonight. next the breaking news, a mistrial declared in the deadly shooting of an unarmed black man running away from a white police officer. we all saw it on tape. the jurors said they could not reach a verdict. why? style lets you stand out from the herd. what s inside sets you apart.
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threat. at that time, when mr. scott was coming after me with the taser, i drew my weapon and fired. i was focused on the front sight. that s all i know. i know he tried to tase me, we were on the ground. i m backing away getting away and he s still coming after me with his taser and at that point, i made the decision to use lethal force because mr. scott never stopped. he was always dangerous. except he was running away in that video. nick valencia is outfront. nick, what happened in this trial? reporter: well, it was the first indication we got that there was a potential for a mistrial on friday when we received news there was a lone jury holdout who said he could not in good conscience convict this officer of first-degree murder. today we learned it may not have just been one, however, it was a majority of the jurors that were still undecided as of this morning. this came as an incredible shock for those that were supporting walter scott s family. to them, all that matters was this cell phone video shot.
that video that shows walter scott running away from michael slager, being gunned down, shot from behind multiple times. to them, it was shocking that there was this deadlock jury. some of what was taken exception in this community as well is the makeup of the jury. 11 jurors were white, 1 of them was black. at a press conference on monday afternoon, however, the scott family chose not to focus on that. they said they re optimistic they could get the conviction in a potential retrial scheduled for sometime later next year, however, we should remind our viewers that michael slager is not completely off the hook yet. he is facing federal civil rights charges. that trial expected to happen sometime in early 2017. poignant words earlier from scott family attorney saying that there was a missed opportunity here. a missed opportunity to heal some very deep wounds in the black community as a result of the series of police shootings that have happened in this country over the last two years. erin? all right. nick, thank you. outfront now, paul callen, criminal defense attorney and former prosecutor.
paul, we all saw that video. sl sl slager slager s, he said he was backing away, scott was coming after him with the tase r. the final moments, scott is running away, slager shoots him multiple times in the back. scott is killed. are you shocked at the outcome here? i am shocked. the thing it emphasizes is how much people respect police officers and how hard it is to convict a police officer. and i think this was we have this term called jury nullification where sometimes the jury just goes against the law and it goes against the facts because they have a gut feeling that the right thing is an acquittal or in this case a hung jury. hung jury. on friday you heard nick report one juror was the holdout, said go back and figure it out, figuring that one person could come around. that person convinced other people, we understand there were multiple people, it s truly a hung jury. that is also shockingly unpress dented. that is staggering if that happens, because normally if it s down to 11-1, the 11
convinces the one. you know what happen that s what always happens, this is going to go down in the record books. if one juror changed the minds of the others. we will see what happen, of course, the prosecutor says he s going do go ahead with another trial. paul callen. thank you. we will be right back.

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