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remarkable. >> what it does is reflects how strongly we are feeling about our beliefs and how divicive things are. but wayne, let me move on to obamacare. what do you think about how it is affecting our economy and you talk about equal freedom. talk to us about that. >> well, i think the law itself is obviously imperfect. we know that. it's terrible. people justify it by saying the congress both houses passed it and the supreme court sprinkled holy water on it and you shouldn't question it. the same is true of the 18th amendment and we turned around and got rid of the 18th amendment. this thing should be -- they should start over. it doesn't work. we know it doesn't work. it's not just the computer part, but the whole thing is bad. the part that i'm most curious
remarkable. >> what it does is reflects how strongly we are feeling about our beliefs and how divicive things are. but wayne, let me move on to obamacare. what do you think about how it is affecting our economy and you talk about equal freedom. talk to us about that. >> well, i think the law itself is obviously imperfect. we know that. it's terrible. people justify it by saying the congress both houses passed it and the supreme court sprinkled holy water on it and you shouldn't question it. the same is true of the 18th amendment and we turned around and got rid of the 18th amendment. this thing should be -- they should start over. it doesn't work. we know it doesn't work. it's not just the computer part, but the whole thing is bad. the part that i'm most curious
>> another classic film that dealt with prohibition, some like it hot. marilyn monroe was caught red handed with the forbidden fruit. >> terribly sorry. >> you won't tell anybody, will you? >> tell what? >> if they catch me once more they are going to kick me out. >> joseph kennedy wasn't the only one amassing a fortune during the ban. an industry was built on the ban. dramatized in this year "the great gatsby." >> you can't repeat the past. >> can't repeat the past? >> no. >> of course you can. >> all right. prohibition fun facts. speakeasies got their name from bartenders telling them to speakeasy so they wouldn't hear you upstairs. >> makes more sense. 18th amendment is the only constitutional amendment by the way that has been repealed in the history of the united states.
today that prohibition, the 13-year ban on alcohol ended. the movement to pass the hotly debated 18th amendment that banned alcohol was led bay rural protestant who saw it as a victory for public health and morals. >> during the 13-year run the law was widely ignored most famously by joseph patrick kennedy, late father of john f. kennedy who amassed a fortune in bootlegging. >> he made even more after the 21st amendment was repealed with his exclusive distribution rights of scottish whiskey. >> one of the unintended consequences was the black market it created and the rise of organized crime syndicates led by people like alka pope. >> put that man in jail. what does he think he is doing? what i hope i'm doing and here's where your english paper has a point, i'm responding to the will of the people. people are going to drink. you know that. i know that. we all know that. all i do is act on that. >> great movie.
it will backfire on them. but let me come back to something we talked about earlier, and i think michelle was right, the pool that everybody's going into make this work has to be balanced by younger people coming into it. the younger people are not going to sign up for it because it is too expensive because it requires things for them to do that they don't need yet. and they are not going to sign up for it, so it's not going to work. it's a debacle. everybody predicted that. and why we can't reverse that, i don't know! we reversed the 18th amendment for booze. we reversed it with the 21st amendment. this thing should be dumped. let me finish, please! this should be dumped and they should start all over. >> you tried and you failed. it's never going away, so just live with it. >> julie, you think the good part is that parents can be on their parents insurance, that's the problem. kids are not going to buy it. they can't buy it or won't buy it and end up going on their parents. there are going to be no young people to subsidize the older
>> that's good rhetoric. >> that's the same thing you use. >> no. this isn't a rhetorical question. you said it happens all the time. you said in previous debates and fights over the debt ceiling. fair enough. has there been a time the congress held up the president of the united states and said kill the law of the land? say it's never happened before and say we're done. >> i don't know if it's happened before, but i can tell you this. the 18th amendment to the constitution was prohibition. which was repealed by the 21st amount. it was the law of the land and it was repealed. slavery was legal at some point. do you think that should still be legal today? is that what you're saying? >> well, you know the history, of course, of prohibition was passed after world war i and repealed under the democratic legislation a decade and a half later. yes, it was repealed after it tried and failed.
respect that. thank you for coming on the show. i put to you a simple question. give me the precedent when the united states government has been held hostage so we kill a l law -- >> those will your words that the government is being held hostage -- >> for the last time -- >> who will negotiate with syria, with putin, with iran but won't negotiate with 50% of his countrymen. >> that's good rhetoric. >> that's the same thing you use. >> no. this isn't a rhetorical question. you said it happens all the time. you said in previous debates and fights over the debt ceiling. fair enough. has there been a time the congress held up the president of the united states and said kill the law of the land? say it's never happened before and say we're done. >> i don't know if it's happened before, but i can tell you this. the 18th amendment to the constitution was prohibition.
and you're in the lead by $1,600 over our champion, prabhu. um, i'll go ahead and wager $2,000. okay. here is the clue for you... who is nureyev? no. who is george balanchine? ah. let's look at the $600 clue now... what was the 19th amendment? nope. prabhu. oh. what is the 18th amendment? and with that, you lead a.j. by $1,000, and lynn gets to go first in double jeopardy! and we'll start that round in a moment or two.
constitutional amendment to rat kate the existence. prohibition did not succeed in prohibiting anything. it created more violence, not less. outlawing liquor gave rise to organized crime, a black market for bootlegging and gave alcohol a place in the american imagination. 1933, the 21st amendment repealed prohibition and left us with a lesson of the fallacy of banning our vices. yet, as we consider policies and certain kinds of guns, is this a lesson we need to relearn? 18th amendment is my challenge. get the guns, then whoops, that could turn into a mess. >> it could punish young black men living in urban areas where police have failed them. they are more likely to carry guns for self-protection. if you try to prohibit guns,
issue. yes, we are hand strong with data being able to support some of these things. the evidence is clear. columbine, there was an armed guard at columbine high school. >> it didn't make a difference. we are going to take a quick break. i wonder if there's an 18th amendment issue going on here. that's next. [ lisa ] my name's lisa, and chantix helped me quit.