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To have access to their it over and again people wanted information. a biden harris ticket. >> and david, let's talk the search for safety. money wise there's also a about -- there was the back channel communication that certain safety in picking a good malcolm just talked about. fundraiser. beto o'rourke raised a whole lot there were these weird meetings of money. it's interesting to me that a f between the head of a bank that was aligned with the kremlin that was secret during the lost their races, campaign that he also lied about. in the open i talked about 666 bill, heidi, four out of five...

In new york, he is the guy who is dealing with qatar in saudi arabia and middle east peace and china. if he is and his dad's company are in searching for money, isn't that a conflict or a potential conflict? >> and that's the unknowable point in this juncture. what is there? is that there money? is there loans? is there something outstanding that somebody has a lean on 666, right, that they're going the call if something doesn't go their way? you can't know at this point. and no one knows exactly, to phil's point, how many of these clearances are done. you don't know how many times people in t...

Stand because they're supposed to be advisers and know more than him on this matter. >> it sounds like they were doing cya to create a paper trail to make it clear it was not their decision, it was up to presume. in a way it is true, and they probably should have taken a stronger stand, but ultimately it is president trump's responsibility. he is toying with american security. we don't know why, by the way, why jared kushner should have been denied a security clearance. there was a report in "new york times" that intelligence services in various countries including the uae and others had asses...

>> it sounds like they were doing cya to create a paper trail to make it clear it was not their decision, it was up to presume. in a way it is true, and they probably should have taken a stronger stand, but ultimately it is president trump's responsibility. he is toying with american security. we don't know why, by the way, why jared kushner should have been denied a security clearance. there's been suggestive stories. there was a report in "new york times" that intelligence services in various countries including the uae and others had assessed that he was easily compromised because he was na...

Chairman elijah cummings and schiff will dive more deeply into the documents. perhaps there will be something there that gives us a legal hook. in the meantime, though, the president has the absolute right to do this, but he also took the sworn oath to protect the american people. it takes somebody like kushner with foreign entanglements and very complicated financial difficulties including the famous 666 fifth avenue and then with all the russians he met with during the campaign, this is just a disaster. >> i want to read for you what the "washington post" how they describe what is behind kus...