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CNN The Lead With Jake Tapper December 6, 2013 21:47:00

Even to now, apartheid is no longer a racial matter and social issues but economic, health care, educational, job apartheid is present even today, and he was simply saying that going into iraq was a preemptive strike, broke international law. as a matter of fact, the biggest demonstration in the history of the world took place that day, people saying do not invade iraq. now we admit that 100,000 plus iraqis have been killed, 6,000 plus americans have been killed, 50,000 plus injured, we were wrong. had the wrong target. he was saying we were wrong. president barack obama said we were wrong. the fact is we were wrong. what did mandela think about the united states? had high hopes for america and had high regard for america. one of the first places he came when he was freed was america, because the fact is demonstrations here, since led by randall robertson and eleanor holmes norton and maxine waters, ....

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CNN The Lead With Jake Tapper December 6, 2013 21:10:00

Raise, basically. jim tankersley, thank you so much. we appreciate it. you look very sharp. i appreciate the beard as well. you should try it. coming up on the lead, he was in the oval office while nelson mandela sat in a prison cell. coming up next, we have former president jimmy carter who will share his memories of the south african leader with you and me. plus, you might think partisan politics couldn t taint the legacy of an international icon. you might think that. you would be wrong. how both sides are comparing mandela s fight against apartheid to things that help their political cause. [ male announcer ] here s a question for you: ....

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CNN The Lead With Jake Tapper December 6, 2013 21:37:00

let me just these things are connected. it s not like he ended his militancy. he always fought hard for freedom. he was a pacificist by the time he left prison. it was extraordinary, that somebody treated that way had no i want to bring in go ahead, jake. thinks your show. i appreciate it. there have been a couple interesting moments of punditry in the last 24 hours. here s msnbc s chris matthews talking about how the last apartheid president, f.w. de klerk, worked with mandela after his release from prison. for him to recognize his role in history which was to be a patriot at that point is so different than the way mitch mcconnell handled the election of obama. here is former pennsylvania senator rick santorum comparing the fight against apartheid in south africa to the battle over obama care. he was fighting against some great injustice. i would make the argument we have a great injustice going on right now in this country with ....

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CNN The Lead With Jake Tapper December 6, 2013 21:17:00

Times in college for demonstrating against apartheid in south africa. so we got off to a good start and we maintained our friendship right up until the end of his life. he was obviously a very controversial figure, considered a terrorist by the u.s. government in the past, labeled one because of waging armed resistance against the apartheid government. some called him a communist. he has praised people who are probably in many ways not deserving of praise such as fidel castro. how do you reconcile the things that are not so great from his past with the unbelievable icon and the man he became? well, i think the things for which he was abused didn t show that he was not great, because i think three years ago, as a matter of fact, he was still on the terrorist list by the united states and they only removed him two junes ago. so that doesn t prove there s anything wrong with him. ....

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CNN The Lead With Jake Tapper December 6, 2013 21:18:00

It s just a matter of the united states making a mistake, labeling him and all the members of the african congress as terrorists. the united states does the same thing with other people around the world still. but anyway, i don t know of anything that would be derogatory that you could say about nelson mandela, although he did some very controversial things. as you may know, i tried every way i could when i was president to get an end to apartheid. when president reagan came into office, he really undid the things that we did and tried to preserve the apartheid government. so the united states government policies have changed back and forth and other nations have looked upon nelson mandela and his organization in different capacities but i think what he s done has been right in wanting freedom and after he was finally released from 27 years of imprisonment, his attitude was one of forgiveness and reconciliation and building a better nation for his people. that s the thing about him ....

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