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It s the entire process. remember, abu zaida worked with us for 1609 days. he was only subjected to eit s for 14 days. that s two weeks. out of another like 220 weeks? ed: that was valuable information the u.s. government got. and now this judge is allowing some of these terror detainees as i understand it to move forward with a lawsuit against you, and potentially others who work for the cia saying that, you know, here you were trying to protect america and now a judge is saying you might, you know, this lawsuit begins you pushed by terror detainees might move forward? yeah. if you got a second, i would like to explain that. abby: please do. i have never heard of two of these people who are suing me until the lawsuit showed up in 2015. one of them is a terrorist who was a member of al qaeda in east africa. ....
So, what happened as a result of that is that the shabab became the vanguard of what was viewed as a movement to fight off a crusading force backed by the united states. so, al shabaab started to get street credibility within somalia because they were the only ones fighting. the rest of the networks had been disrupted, co-yopted, killed or imprisoned by the americans or ethiopians. so, what happened at the end of the day is that al qaeda was able to get a foothold in somalia and it had never been able to before. bin laden desperately wanted to get into somalia and somalis rejected him. the u.s. invasion with ethiopia opened the door and al shabaab has gotten more militant as the years have gone on. and they clearly seem to have an agenda if, in fact, this is somali al shabaab fighters behind this. why would they attack a kenyan mall? well, there s a long history of al qaeda in east africa and eventually al shabaab staging attacks in kenya and elsewhere in africa. of course the em ....
Crusading force backed by the united states. so shabaab started to get street credibility within somalia because they were the only ones fighting. the rest of the networks had been disrupted, co-opted, killed or imprisoned by the americans or ethiopians. so, what happened at the end of the day is that al qaeda was able to get a foothold in somalia, and it had never been able to before. bin laden desperately wanted to get into somalia and somalis rejected him. the u.s. invasion with ethiopia opened the door and shabaab has gotten increasing ly militant as the years have gone on. and they clearly seem to have an agenda if, in fact, this is somali al shabaab fighters behind this. why would they attack a kenyan mall? well, there s a long history of al qaeda in east africa and then eventually al shabaab staging attacks in kenya and elsewhere in africa. of course, the embassy bombings. yes, in 98 in tanzania and kenya, but there was also a 2002 attempt to shoot down israeli aircraft ....
Then you had the bombing at the world cup in 2010 in uganda, an american citizen was killed in that as well as a number of ugandans. and i think that, you know, if you look at the past two years, kenya has been deeply involved with somali politics, funding warlords. i traveled with a kenyan-backed warlord who had brand new military equipment given to him in the summer of 2011, and then kenya staged an invasion of parts of southern somalia. and i think al shabaab has seized on this idea that kenya is a puppet or a proxy for the u.s., and that s really the message that they ve propagandized. what does it say about the state of al qaeda or global jihadis in 2013 that this attack happened, that it s coming from possibly somalia? it seems to me like it s the situation which we smash one or disrupt one network and they seem to pop up somewhere else. right. something interesting is that when i was last in somalia in the summer of 2011, the head of al qaeda in east africa was killed in mog ....
That is that the shabab became the vanguard of what was viewed as a movement to fight off a crusading force backed by the united states. so, al shabaab started to get street credibility within somalia because they were the only ones fighting. the rest of the networks had been disrupted, co-yopted, killed or imprisoned by the americans or ethiopians. so, what happened at the end of the day is that al qaeda was able to get a foothold in somalia and it had never been able to before. bin laden desperately wanted to get into somalia and somalis rejected him. the u.s. invasion with ethiopia opened the door and al shabaab has gotten more militant as the years have gone on. and they clearly seem to have an agenda if, in fact, this is somali al shabaab fighters behind this. why would they attack a kenyan mall? well, there s a long history of al qaeda in east africa and eventually al shabaab staging attacks in kenya and elsewhere in africa. of course the embassy bombings. yes, in 98 in ....