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Forces. Um, and that was sort of my goal, my goal with the book. As far as the consumer thing, i just think, yeah, its very pervasive in our chul you cultu, and one of the counterarguments to the book has always been like, well, convenience. Amazon is convenient, and convenience is a consumer value, and i think we need to push back on that as something that, you know, underpins a lot of our choices and our activities. Right. And, frank foer, ill let you get the last word in on that. Right. We have that, we have certain expectations about the stuff that we get. And its shaped by the world that ...

and you remember that scene in gone with the wind where those great siege victims, rhett butler and scarlett o'hare a r. racing through the flames and the falling embers, and that was in fact as presented in the movie, was that first grade bonfire caused be departing confederate. that you might ask why isn't the fall of atlanta the most significant event in american history? why would i say more so, than say, independence day, or the fall of -- the battle of gettysburg, or the election of franklin telemark roosevelt ordered the day or v-j day? well, the fall of atlanta meant that the...