asteroid strike. these are things you have to plan for. that s our box report. thanks for watching. what year do we declare independence? 1884. way out. in honor of this holiday weekend, waters world classic that won t make you proud to be an american. it all begins right now. people need kidneys, it s sad this is a democratic health care bill. are you ready? massive tax relief for middle-class american families. $700 billion in tax cuts. new health care bill gives people choice. so is the republican health bill perfectly mark of course it is a. is it better than obama care? of course it is. now, it s do or die for senate republicans. charles explains the stakes. this is really a test of the republic. if the republican party is concerned in the country is not able to pass this which is essentially about entitlement reform, if you can t do that then we have no hope of entitlements. jesse: so, we ll see if it republicans can pass the test. if they do, republicans should be thanking them for fixing the system that they broke. here is the beltway battle who is involved with implementing obama care political commentator, tommy lawrence. ladies first. what did you think of my assessment of the stakes and where we stand on healthcare? you are right. it s also important to point out as he did that if we change just one word of obama care, the democrats were telling us we were killing people. a front let s be honest about the narrative. beyond that we should repeal obama care, replace it with liberty and have a great fourth of july. jesse: everyone can celebrate freedom on the fourth of july but the democratic party does not like freedom, they don t like choice when it comes to healthcare. they like choice when it comes to everything else on the platform. what is the democratic party dislike giving the american people more choice in selecting healthcare coverage? the affordable care act gave people choice. jesse: note didn t. you are both completely wrong about the senate proposal and senate proposal. any one that takes covers from 22 million people is a not a choice it s a disaster. jesse: but if you re not mandating people through taxation to find of obama care, people are going to do it. they will have the freedom to decide whether or not they want healthcare or not. i want them to have healthcare because i don t want my bill to be significantly high because they choose not have health insurance coverage. jesse: but everyone s healthcare bills are already high after obama care was passed. premiums are skyrocketing. there s not a lot of choice. look at i will, there s only one option for people to choose from. how do you see the healthcare bill going down? it s projected next year, 44 counties will have no choice at all. we are in a death spiral right now. there s no question to that. this narrative of the democrats pushing and were killing people and taken away healthcare, let s not forget the biggest liable which was told by barack obama, if you like insurance, you can keep it. yes, we need to fix something here. repeal now, replace later, let s do something because this is not working. jesse: anton, do the democrats have any substitutes policy input that they think the republican party might go along with? that depends. we have policy input for six years when president obama was president, guess what, the congress had no interest in trying to prove healthcare make it better. so, i don t think they re interested in listening to good ideas. they just want to repeal the affordable care act and give the opportunity to say they want something and take health insurance on 22 millie people. jesse: i don t agree with the last part. but i agree neither party wants their fingerprint fingerprints on a doomed dell. do you remember susan rice? now, she has been slapped with subpoenas and she is going to testify on capitol hill in the unmasking investigation, looking into unmasking of trump officials which is not supposed to be political. those names were leaked and that s a crime. she s playing the race and gender card since she might be being targeted because of her race and gender. do you think that s a fair assessment? it s amazing to me how they seem to be able to pull out the cards. look at the people being investigated. look at what the president has to go through on a daily basis and he s a white male. it has a lot to do with susan rice herself. the moment you parade around with talking points and be on the youtube video it has to do with being a liar. jesse: respond to. susan rice has been embroiled in the benghazi situation, she said it was about a video and she said bergdahl was a deserter and he served with honor and distinction and captured on the battlefield. then she changed her story in public about the unmasking. to susan rice have any credibility when she goes in front of the senators and congressmen on capitol hill? 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always discreet underwear. for bladder leaks. already the left is filing lawsuits. justman up before the ban took effect, hawaii filed an emergency motion asking a federal judge to clarify which people with close familial relationships will be allowed into the country. and who will be banned? joining me is deputy assistant to the president, doctor sebastian gorka. i m not sure how many students are vacationing in honolulu, that s beside the point. in my opinion, coming to america is a movie, not a right. i don t think a lot of the aclu lawyers sitting at the airports understand that. now, tell me if i have this right. if you are 25-year-old syrian male and you fly into jfk, and that s a war-torn country, isis controls large swaths of land and maybe you have a rental car agreement. you cannot come into america like that were as before there is a shot you were getting in, right? right. so the supreme court gave us vindication, 19 makes zero decision, no dissensions, the original travel moratorium stands with a small modification, unless you have close relatives. you cannot be distant relatives, cannot be your front fiancé. less their close relatives you re not coming into the united states until we review the process and are clear that we can verify who your and you are not a threat to america. that makes perfect sense in my opinion. america is a melting pot. but, we still have a chef and that s cannot control what ingredients going to the pot. that s common sense. i believe the supreme court believes that. there s a question whether ruth bader ginsburg should recuse herself because she said some things about trump when he was running and now that he was president which were unseemly. calling him an egomaniac, even joking she might leave the country if he became country president, do you think that s a fair issue? i m not going to qualify individual supreme court judges but i love your analogies about the chef. the one i use is simply, do you lock your front door at night when you go to bed? sure you do. and during the day when people come into your house who decided? do they decide who comes in or do you decide. the president has the constitutional authority and has had to decide who comes to the united states and becoming an america is not a rights, it s a privilege. to other big immigration wins this week, the house gop making good on the promise to make america safe again bypassing case law and defunding sanctuary cities. defending criminal illegal aliens. democrats went nuts, listen. the republican parties have had mexican fever. is it not going well for the leader, let s whip out that mexican thing as the vice president penn said. healthcare not going well? but hates the mexicans today. these bills are nothing new and they are not really about fighting crime. they re about racial profiling and putting latinos in their place. i think that s offensive. little me this. if republican mayors were to disobey federal law on guns, on abortion, on any other hot button topic, marriage, the media would say there s a civil war up for the we have a constitutional crisis. but whenever there s a democratic mayor it somehow righteous. that clip you just played was reverse racial baiting. nothing else. think about why this law was actually brought in front of the congressmen and women. a beautiful woman, 32 years old gunned down in broad daylight by a man who came to this country illegally, deported five times, convicted seven times. how is it a bad idea to stop that from happening again? is common sense legislation so someone commits a crime, felony and they are deported and are caught reentering the country illegally, they get locked up for some time. any democrat against that i d like to see them explain that to kate s family. absolutely. this new bill means that if you are caught coming back after you been deported you can get two years in federal prison. if we convict you and then deport you and you come back illegally, we can like you away for 25 years to protect the feet future kate stanley s. jesse: thank you. happy july 4. jesse: morning joe host calling the president sexist. but how do they treat sarah palin? the great one. mark is here with the report. the fake news media saying donald trump is going to get them killed. a former cnn reporter explains her psychosis, up next. ependabl. she pretty much lives in her favorite princess dress. but once a week i let her play sheriff so i can wash it. i use tide to get out those week old stains and downy to get it fresh and soft. you are free to go. tide and downy together. it s happening, it s happening! in the modern world, you can control just about anything with an app. your son is turning on all the lights again! and with the esurance mobile app, you can do the same thing with your car insurance. like access your id card, file a claim, or manage your policy. it s so easy it s almost scary. let s get outta here! that s auto and home insurance for the modern world. esurance. an allstate company. click or call. yogig-speed internet.me? 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[applause] the camera just one off. okay, you can come back. i would say. i won t say anything more about you. i see the red like off. jesse: those comments after a rough week from cnn. the network embarrassed itself not once but twice, first having to retract a fake story which tied former trump aid joe been admitting russia coverage is baseless and for ratings. when will the fake news and? joining me now, journalists and our of the smear. fake news control we see and think and how you will. so, cnn has had a rough spring i m think it s safe to say. that the kathy griffith debacle, the james comey testimony exclusive they had to retract, some people said things about trump that i m not allowed to repeat on air. then people like to say the media is there to hold the powerful accountable, think now the media has become so powerful the media itself is being held accountable and they don t like that. i would say was happen at cnn is a reflection of a larger trend i talk about in the book whereby the news media in some regards has been successfully infiltrated by the interest that tried to drive narratives and smear. we ve invited them into our newsrooms and we ve hired them in this is the result. when you hire political hatchet men and women as producers or as on-air talent, you have to expect everything is going to get burned to the ground and it will not be the same institution as it once was. talk about media priorities here, the mainstream media is obsessed with russia i think 353 minutes dedicated to the russia comey investigation, the paris accord, 47 minutes. the fight against terror only half an hour. but anything regarding president s policy agenda and the substance behind it gets little play. you re not surprised by the fact that the american people are so turned off by the press because they don t think the press is covering the president fairly. it kind of reads like a textbook propaganda or narrative campaign when you look at how the russian narrative emerged and compared to the facts and i spoke to a couple of former obama officials who said they do not think russia even had an impact at all in our election let alone colluded with donald trump. these are obama intel officials. they went on to describe how china has interfered with our elections and they consider that a weaker threat, iran is a much bigger threat and north korea s the biggest foreign threat. yet none is bn reported with the ferocity that you mentioned that we are reporting on russia. jesse: speaking of threats, people are now claiming they are the ones under threat and take a look at this montage. have you raise the concern that all of us in the news media have about the president calling us enemies of the american people because that s a very harsh statement and potentially dangerous. at what point does this become dangerous? i m talking dangerous as in a journalist gets her. i can tell you working overseas in war zones, people are in bold and by the actions of this administration, emboldened by the declaration of war and the media. the reporters and journalists are enemies of the state. someone, god forbid someone is going to do something violent against journalist and a large way. so first of all we would like to correct the record. the president did not say you are an enemy of the state. he said fake news is the enemy of the people. it s interesting because the press likes to say when trump calls the fake news media that will cost someone to shoot them. on the other hand you ve had the press calling republicans racist, bigoted traders for the last year and a half and then someone did come out shoot a republican and said rhetoric had nothing to do with it so which is it? it s that substitution game i like to play have similar things are treated depending on who makes the accusation. i think that s a signal. jesse: i want to get to something in your book and it s a great book. you came across an e-mail from palmeri who was hillary clinton s communications director during the campaign. and jen sakae who is the obama state department spokesperson. it says this, think we can get the interview with kerry by cbs done so he is not asked about e-mail? the e-mail is referring to the hillary clinton e-mail scandal. that seems like collusion to me, doesn t it? if you look at the chapter i read in the book is full of e-mails that say things like that and far worse where the journalists are you kidding behind the scenes and agreeing to let officials call the terms of the campaign. one of clinton s assistance was talking to a reporter in washington who wanted an advance copy of her speech and he said okay, if you meet these three conditions. one was that you must describe her speech is muscular which is a name you not think of as used to describe a speech, not only was it used by that reporter an agreement you can see a black and white, i looked into several other reporters use the same words in describing the speech. not a coincidence that muscular was used in the report? could even think of that word? not one time but three times that they were insisting the term be used, that s eye-opening. i ve always said there s more evidence of democratic party colluding with the media then evidence that donald trump colluded with russia. jesse: still to come, remember when obama said this during his last week in office? as i prepare to take on the the more important role of citizen, know that i will be there with you every step of the way. he may have stretch the truth, and now is on democratic colleagues are fuming. will explain in the real news of the week. then will talk left wing hysteria over the plan to repeal obama care. okay, yup. good night. with accident forgiveness your rates won t go up just because of an accident. switching to allstate is worth it. it s your glass of willpower that helps keep cravings. .far, far away. feel less hungry with the natural fiber in clinically. .proven meta appetite control. from metamucil. be the you who doesn t cover your moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. be the you who shows up in that dress. who hugs a friend. who is done with treatments that don t give you clearer skin. be the you who controls your psoriasis with stelara® just 4 doses a year after 2 starter doses. stelara® may lower your ability to fight infections and may increase your risk of infections and cancer. some serious infections require hospitalization. before treatment, get tested for tuberculosis. before starting stelara® tell your doctor if you think you have an infection or have symptoms such as: fever, sweats, chills, muscle aches or cough. always tell your doctor if you have any signs of infection, have had cancer, if you develop any new skin growths or if anyone in your house needs or has recently received a vaccine. alert your doctor of new or worsening problems, including headaches, seizures, confusion and vision problems these may be signs of a rare, potentially fatal brain condition. some serious allergic reactions can occur. do not take stelara® if you are allergic to stelara® or any of its ingredients. most people using stelara® saw 75% clearer skin and the majority were rated as cleared or minimal at 12 weeks. be the you who talks to your dermatologist about stelara®. ray s always been different. last year, he said he was going to dig a hole to china. at&t is working with farmers to improve irrigation techniques. remote moisture sensors use a reliable network to tell them when and where to water. so that farmers like ray can compete in big ways. china. oh . he got there. that s the power of and. we are live from america sne. president trump facing backlash as his twitter war against the media escalates. on sunday morning the president tweeted a 282nd video of a wwe broadcast edited to show the president wrestling a man with a cnn local on his face. the # reading fake news cnn. it has prompted sharp criticism that is one of his most shared and most retweeted post ever. new jersey governor, chris christie plans to convene the legislator on monday in an attempt to break the budget deadlock that prompted him to shut down the government on friday. if reload 35000 workers and also force the closure of all 40 state parks for the fourth of july weekend. christie has signed a state of an emergency to allow essential government services to stay in operation. it s disgusting, vulgar. talk about winning that way? you physically look like you do, be on the stupidity of it, you re a pig, you are a bully, and you are doing disgusting things to this country. jesse: wow. that was a former cnbc host on morning joe attacking president trump for his early tweets about joe scarborough and mika brezezinksi. some think he went overboard in his comments but msnbc is not want to talk. they spent nearly a decade trashing people like sarah palin and the most disgusting way. people like joe scarborough making fun of the way she speaks in her family. even martin was forced to do resign after comments about the former alaskan governor. where s the outrage? mark, author of rediscovering americanism and host of seer to be networks joins me now. so, before is out there saying that trump is a mentally old narcissist dictator. i don t think it was the fire smartest thing for president trump to go after her physical appearance but the morning joe has been trashing people like sarah palin for ages on firm ground : president a sexist. they have the heartbeat of greenwich village, they claim to represent the people, i don t even watch the show. i see clips of the show, i would say this, if you believe in women s rights, why do you defer to joe, your future house spend all the time which is what she does? she s a second seat. at astro this, why did you feel it radio, i know this because and he left where i am he and she said, were taking a respite to rebuild the radio show and then they wind up on msnbc. that show has less shows than sonogram radios. the only time i watch cnn is when i travel. you are a trained lawyer, there s some audio we won t play but i think the president was at a fundraiser the other day and i think he said maybe i should sue cnn. cnn has been caught and if you embarrassing stink situations and have had to eat crow recently. does he have a case? no. he doesn t have a case. can i go back to the little fellow, donny deutsch area and let me tell you something. you think you re a tough guy on tv and talk about the president of the united states that way? that s a problem with that show. you want to be respected then you need to treat people with respect. you want to be a jerk then you will be treated like a jerk. whether we agree with the president or not, the fact is he s in a proud and accomplish man and has done more than joe scarborough had done in his life. you can challenge him on the issues. you can take him on certain personality traits. but when you start attacking him you get no respect and you don t reserve respect either. so don t have these guys in the same greenroom you could have trouble. i m nervous. jesse: let me tell you about healthcare. i ve said the health care bill coming out is not going to be perfect. we know obama care is far from perfect. what you want to see happen? i think it s a disaster. i think with the senate is doing is a disaster. the american people cannot even tell you what the senate is doing. people are going to a dr., they want to have access to a dr. and it access to procedures they need and surgeries they need. they don t want long waiting times at a reasonable price. how do we get there? do we get there through the centralized government type system? people do you know in america go to canada for healthcare? how many people in america go to britain for dental care? how many people go to france for healthcare? were the only industrials countries that don t have socialist healthcare. good. i like the presence latest idea. if they can t pass something, and i hope they don t, because it s always in the mind to the left, it s all based on obama care. if it s repealed and you get 12 months notice what happens? that is 20 milli- people who need insurance. they say 20 milli- people one have insurance, that s baloney. free enterprise, entrepreneurs and insurance companies will step in and offer different types of policy. they will make money, prices will come down this 20 milli- people will have healthcare. i think the original idea should not have been expanding coverage should have been reducing costs. the cost went up and now everyone wants the cost to go down, it s bogus to say people will lose insurance, of course they will because they will not be taxed into getting insurance. i m in medicaid s welfare program. and it s exploding. here s the thing, they think look at all this coverage, people in medicaid don t like medicaid. we don t even discuss and debate it. i like this idea, repeal the thing, give 12 months to the private sector those 20 milli- people are likely to have good health care. i spacer on the other day and i said what are we gonna do and he said face too. let me talk to you about the russian, obama collusion angle. this is something you been talking about, the washington post came out this piece that obama is struggling with the russian interference. this week, i ve heard very little for some strange reason about the collusion angle. why is that? because of your point, barack obama was president, commander-in-chief and was responsible for protecting us from cyber warfare. it was great hearing these on the senate intelligence committee who used to love the soviet union and now they don t like russia. i ve never like putin by the russian government. that said, when i listen to them go on and on about what an assault this is on america yeah what did you do about it? who s the fbi director? comey, clapper, you have loretta lynch, obama, what did they do? they covered it up because they wanted her to win hillary of they didn t want people to think the election was tainted. i thought this is a dereliction of duty on behalf of the president. it s funny they say the democrats were for russia before they were against. mark, congratulations of the book. enjoyed. still to come, classic was on the american history. you won t want to miss this. it was definitive proof that russia hacked the election. turns out, democrats are reading the new york times. they got it wrong again. real and fake news of the week is up next. i never miss an early morning market. but with my back pain i couldn t sleep or get up in time. then i found aleve pm. the only one to combine a safe sleep aid plus the 12 hour pain relieving strength of aleve. and now. i m back! aleve pm for a better am. leadership. so the sanders family is under investigation, the trump family, not. now who s feeling the burn? the national endowment for the arts is spending $20000 of taxpayer money on illegal immigrant lesbian musical called walls. this is one wall that mexico is not going to be paying for. surprise, surprise. seattle s first in the nation 15-dollar per hour wage law is hurting the workers it aims to help. the new way boosted pay by 3% and resulted in a 9% reduction in hours which means workers are taken about $125 less each month. reminds me of the saying, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. as democrats continue to lose house there finding ways to relate to voters. instead of changing leadership this week they decided to appoint congressmen of illinois as a new chairwoman of heartland engagement. proving once again how i don t out of touch the democrats are. president trumps criticism of the nato allies for not investing in the military is paying off. nato secretary-general announced plans to boost defense spending by 4.3% this year. looks like tough love works. here s your fake news story of the week. if you been watching cable news this year, you have seen dozens of democrats that all 17 intelligence agencies agreed the russians hacked the election. this has come from the highest levels of the russian government. clearly from putin himself, in an effort a 17 of our intelligence agencies have confirmed to influence our election. 17 agencies came to a consensus conclusion that we took the extraordinary step of making public. we have 17 u.s. intelligence agencies have said that russia attempted to influence our election. 17 u.s. intelligence agencies issued a statement expressing their unanimous assessment. jesse: that was fake news. ironic susan rice was in it again. the new york times buried a correction at the bottom of the paper same there was only four agencies, not 17. who s counting? apparently not the new york times. all immigrants want to become citizens have to pass a basic test. could you? watters world quizzes college students when we come back. what year do we declare independence? 1984? way off. rs. be there for america s toughest and help, when help is needed america s #1 isn t a status earned overnight. it s earned in every wash, and re-earned every day. tide, america s #1 detergent (b by crying) minutes old. a baby s skin is never more delicate. what do hospitals use to wash and protect it? johnson s® the number 1 choices in hospitals. two. i m going to say 100. you got it. what month it do we vote for presidents? december? january? april. know that s when you pay your taxes. march? august. august is in the summer. november? you got it. what year do we declare our independence? 1984? way off. 1884. 1776. 1776. july 4. 1776? genius. the name of our national anthem is? is in a called the national anthem? it is the star-spangled banner. very good. lester rendition. oh say can you see by the dawn s early light. was a probably we hailed by the don s by the twilights. i forget the rest. o er the ramparts. what of those called? 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and tonight, a u.s. senator, marco rubio, has called his death murder. back on american soil, inka pass tated after 17 months in a north korean prison. his father s first words to his son. what did i say to my son? i knelt down by his side and i hugged him and i told him i missed him and i was so glad he made it home. reporter: but the 22-year-old was in a state of unresponsiveness waitfulness, damaged throughout his brain, rendering him able to brink and at times move, but there was nothing left of the adventurous young than that had departed nearly two years earlier. otto, i love you and i m so crazy about you, and i m so glad you re home. you are such a great guy. reporter: the north korean government claimed that warmbier contracted botulism, took a sleeping pill and fell into what they call a coma. a north korean mri confirmed the he was accused and tried for hostile acts after the north korean government claimed he took down a propaganda poster in the hotel where he was staying on the night before he was to depart the country. this video provided to cnn by the warmbier family shows otto in north korea with his tour group, no indication of any hostile acts toward north korea. just a young man experiencing the world. miguel, any reaction from the trump administration? and do we know at this point any retaliatory actions are being considered? reporter: the president spoke about it, called it brutality what the north koreans did, and hopes to keep this from happening to anyone else. interestingly, the secretary of state tillerson said he holds the north koreans accountable for the unjust imprisonment but stopped short of saying that they were responsible for his death. this administration it does not appear wants to go to war over otto warmbier. thank you very much. there were no cameras today at the white house press briefing or microphones either. however, whether on camera or off, there was no answer to a very simple question. mr. president, are you under investigation by the special counsel? mr. president, are you under investigation by the special counsel? the president said nothing. but that s okay, because he didn t have. we already know the answer. i am being investigated for firing the fbi director by the man who told me the fbi director. witch hunt. it seems clear, by i am being investigated it would appear that he means i am being investigated. unless perhaps he really meant something very different, like, i don t know, maybe the exact opposite. it was 141 characters. there s a limitation on twitter. and the president is a very ekttive utilization of social media. so the president issued that social media statement based on a fake report, a report with no documented sources, from the washington post. there should be no confusion, that the president is not under investigation. so that s one of the president s new lawyers, jay sekulow, making the rounds on the sunday news programs. that was the line. it was the president practicing media criticism, not actually saying he s under investigation, which he s not, unless of course he is. but who would dare contradict jay sekulow about this claim he says there should be no confusion. who i ask you? how about jay sekulow himself. now he s being investigated by the department of justice, so he s being investigated for taking the action that the attorney general, deputy attorney general recommended him to take by the agency, who recommended the termination. okay. so if you re keeping score, according to jay sekulow, the president both was not and was under investigation. that was just sunday. what about today? to fire the fbi director. witch hunt. maybe instead of meaning he s under investigation or he s commenting on a washington post story, maybe it s none of those things. maybe it s something else entirely. that s the president with his social media platform telling everybody look at the irony here. i honestly do not know what that means. i do not know what that means. cnn s jim acosta joins us from the white house to clear up any irony there may be. jim, this seems to be another example of the president simply i don t know, not being on the same page with those that represent him is. that what it is? reporter: i m not sure they re on the same planet, anderson, and i don t understand that east whatever you just played. not only have we heard the white house say, well, the president s tweets speak for themselves, we ve already heard the president say he likes to use social media because it goes over the filter of the main stream news media. so that would come with the suggestion that you should believe his tweets as they re written, as they re posted. so to have jay sekulow go on the sunday talk shows and the morning talk shows this morning and explain this away you have to come back to the simple truth, and that is when the president tweets something, the white house believes that is the gospel around here. i will tell you today that we tried to get answers to other questions, whether he has recordings of his conversations. we did not get an answer to that. the president said we would get an answer to that shortly. and also this question of whether or not he believes he can fire robert mueller, the special counsel. that question was asked time and time again today and we did not get an answer. the briefing today was off camera, there was no recording of audio actually allowed. what is the reasoning behind that? what justification is there? reporter: the reason today, and keep in mind the reason today may not be the reason we re given tomorrow. but today they said the president was going to be speaking in front of the cameras when he was with the president of panama, and also later in the day when he made those comments about the death of otto warmbier. but as you played at the beginning of this broadcast, the president was asked are you under investigation? and he didn t answer the question. so we have a situation, anderson, where they re simply stonewalling us. and you have to say it the way it is. when you have a press briefing here at the white house, we have pen and pad opportunities from time to time, and we don t record those meetings. they re there basically for editorial purposes. but when you drag the report sboers the briefing room and insist they can t record via audio what is said in that briefing from the white house press secretary, you are taking us into a strange new world where accountability doesn t exist. and it removes the possibility that we could ask followup questions to some important inquiries. that s something that happened today. we allowed it to happen, and something we shouldn t allow to happen again. if we continue to allow this stonewalling to go on, they re just going to do it time and again, where the new normal will be we just don t have press briefings on camera anymore. in the united states, they do it at city hall with the mayor and your statehouse with your governor or other elected officials, why can t the president? i ve got to ask this, what are they afraid about being on camera? clearly we ve seen time and time again, they say things which turn out to be not true or the president declares not to be true the next day. is that the concern, they can in the past they ve said this president is so fast, i don t want i can t remember the exact quote, but he s so on the go, that his spokes people can t keep up with him to get factual information, which makes no sense. reporter: it doesn t make sense. there was one instance today where sean spicer, the press secretary was asked, does the president believe in climate change? you said you would get back to us. that question was asked again today, and the white house press secretary, sean spicer, did not have an answer to the question whether or not the president believes in climate change. the president said a month ago that he was going to have a news conference in two weeks on isis. he said two weeks ago that he was going to have a news conference on isis. i think we re just getting to the point, anderson, where not only can we not believe the president when he makes a claim about when he s going to talk to us, but what the white house press office is saying in these briefing room it is they re not willing to deal with this on the up and up. i think that is the problem right now that we re dealing with, and i hate to say it, but these press briefings aren t going to serve much of a purpose if we don t go back to the old rules where we re allowed to videotape. i could have held up my phone today, anderson, and tried to record the press secretary sean spicer speaking to us, and play for you what would have happened to me had i done that? would they have hauled us off? taken our press credentials? i don t know. that s just the upside down world we re living in right now where they refuse to answer these questions on camera or audio. and seemingly refuse to ask the president a question, does he believe in climate change, is he recording conversations in the oval office. there s a host of things they seem - reporter: lots of yes and no questions. more breaking news involving michael flynn whose contact with the russians are already under investigation. jim acosta joins us now. what have you learned? reporter: jim sciutto this time. how many times have i done that to you? reporter: that s right. i m not taking it personally. this is a letter from the ranking democrat on the house oversight committee and the ranking democrat on the house foreign affairs committee, drawing attention to two foreign trips that michael flynn took in 2015. one in the summer, the other in october of 2015. they say the first he did not report at all on his security clearance form. and the second one he omitted key information as to why he went, who he traveled with, et cetera. this coming on the heels of previous nondisclosures by flynn of meetings. and they re looking at it now because russia involved again, the trip was to saudi arabia, but general flynn went to saudi arabia to help broker a deal between russia and saudi arabia for building a number of nuclear power plants there. i reached out to flynn s lawyer. he did say they received this letter, and i reached out to republicans on the committee to see why they didn t sign onto this letter. i m told by democrats on the oversight committee that republicans declined the chance to sign on. i m told by a gop aide on the foreign affairs committee they did not hear of this letter until i came to them for comment on it. and not reporting foreign travel on a security clearance form, is that considered a crime? reporter: it is. it s right there, a u.s. code title 18, section 1001, knowingly falsifying or concealing such foreign travel is a felony, punishable up to five years. it s clear on these forms when you read them, it says right there at the top, report all your travel, and also crucially your meetings with foreign officials during these trips. this is something else that the ranking democrats on these committees are drawing attention to, that seven years before general flynn applied to regain his security clearance before entering the trump administration, he did not list a single meeting with a foreign official for seven years prior to then. so they are raising questions here, not just about a couple of trips but multiple meetings with foreign officials that he did not report. maybe there s an innocent explanation, but there does seem to be a pattern, flynn, kushner, sessions, of nondisclosure on security clearance forms. reporter: we had this with jared kushner for his first form, did not list any of the meetings. he later, under questioning from members of the media and others, supplied that information on the security clearance form. and attorney general jeff sessions did not supply his initial explanation was that a retired fbi agent said that travel while he was a senator was not relevant. very hard questions about that, because no such exceptions are made in the u.s. law. he later supplied some of that information. but you have a pattern here. it could be an innocent omission. but the fact is, it becomes the subject of these continuing congressional investigations. and many of those questions, particularly from general flynn, remain unanswered. jim sciutto, thank you very much. sean spicer wasn t on camera today. is his job on the line? 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the bigger question is, who would fill his shoes as the white house press secretary? some of the names being floated around, laura ingram, her name has surfaced. but it s unclear whether or not she would want to leave that kind of job to take the position as white house press secretary. so my guess is, anderson, you re going to see a lot of names surface during the course of this process, because these are very, very big shoes to fill. and you have a very important person often watching these briefings, and that s the president. to that point, if sean spicer can t get basic questions answered by the president, based on reporters, are there tapes about climate change, is it real or not, why would he be in a more elevated overseeing role, which you would think he would have more interaction with the president. but if the president doesn t have confidence in him, why would he want him in an overseeing role? reporter: that s a very good question. i was talking to a different source here today, anderson, who said this process is very fluid, cautioning we have had these palace intrigue stories before about reince priebus, the white house chief of staff. how many times have we heard he was going to be leaving and he didn t leave? so i do think we have to take some of the speculation with a grape of salt. as the president changes his mind in one direction, he could go in another direction. and what we re hearing tonight may not be the case a week from now. but that s an excellent question, because it does raise this question of what is going on inside this white house? why can t we get basic answers to questions that are very important right now. sean spicer couldn t deliver those answers. so why would he be in charge of an operation that might not be able to answer those questions. what sit liis it like in the wing? it seems like it has to be chaotic is one word. reporter: i hear that word a lot, chaotic. that is the atmosphere that president trump, that donald trump as you know, anderson, thrives on. he likes having these different factions fighting, because he feels like it results in a better process, in better decision making. you can take issue with that, obviously a lot of people do. but it fedepends on who you tal to. there is an atmosphere that the president can do no wrong. you saw that happen at the cabinet meeting where he went around the table asking people to compliment them. it was a bizarre scene. so i think there is a culture here at the white house that creates that sort of environment where people have to tell the president what he wants to hear. the question becomes, can he bring people in that tell him what he doesn t want to hear? jim, thanks. i want to bring in our panel now. i only want to hear things i want to hear. so charles? can you remember another time when the fate of the white house press secretary was so sort of publicly discussed? yeah, no, i can t. and it s somewhat odd, because almost every senior adviser since they started has gone through a phase where it was leaked that they were imminently on their way out. remember when steve bannon was going to be fired, reince priebus was going to be fired. kellyanne conway disappeared for a while and she came back. and sean spicer and his associates have been leaking that his job has been on the line. it does seem he has gotten a little control over the story now, because the story is he is now being the one who is going to find his own replacement. so that suggests he s not being pushed out but will retain this title of communications director, which is above the press secretary. and he s going to find someone to be the face of the white house. frankly, i don t think it matters who the press secretary is. they could have jeffrey lord as their press secretary. i m floating that. what matters is, can the person do the job that the press and the public requires? do they have access to the president and do they get reliable, timely, and honest, truthful information to the public on a daily basis? that s not been the pattern so far. kirsten, no matter what the title is, unless they have access to the president and the president starts being honest with them, they re going to continue to come out and say stuff that s not true. he s basically said he s just so fast moving, there s no way for them to keep up with them. it s no more fast moving than any other president. so other presidents have been able to make sure people are informed and have a sense of responsibility about that. but the only thing that might change it a little bit is somebody that is not going to put up with donald trump s crap, and laura ingram is that kind of person. i think it wouldn t be a particularly enjoyable experience for reporters, but she is somebody who would not i think she has more self-respect than some of the people going out and just saying i can t give you this information. i don t see her going out day after day not knowing what s going on. she s somebody that trump does respect, because he likes people that is on tv. she s very smart and bright. i ve been on her show in the past. but would she want to give up i don t know. she said she s indicated she would be open to it. so i think that but i do think what is missing are people who are you need somebody who is not going to just accept they re uninformed and they re going to walk out and humiliate themselves every day. can you give a good explanation why the white house would bar reporters from even recording audio of a briefing from shawn spiceer? the only reason i can think of, and i m sort of reaching here, would be obviously there is such a thing as having like a gaggle where you would want to talk to people off the record and not for attribution. notebook only gaggle. right. where i want you to know what i m thinking, what i think might be happening. that s perfectly legitimate. but that is not what this was. there really is no rational for doing this. i would say very quickly to the laura ingram report. she would have the leverage, right? we ve all been this that position or seen people in that position. sean spicer was kind of lucky to get the gig as press secretary. laura would have she would have the gravitas and the juice, so to speak, to demand access in a way that someone like spicer couldn t. one more point about the role of the press secretary. one thing that has changed, jeffrey lord talks about ronald reagan. marlin fitzwater was a bridge between the press and the president. that s not how the trump white house sees that role. jeffrey, you said you were a big first amendment guy. are you comfortable with the role that the press secretaries have so far in these off camera, no audio? no. i ve been a press secretary for a congressman and senator. you have to inform the press. if you don t want to say something, don t say something. but don t cut them off that s a mistake. one thing i would say, i do remember a press secretary who had this problem, and i don t know whether he had the formal title, but in the clinton administration, george stephanopoulos began briefing the press in that role, although i think dee dee myers held the title. but they pulled him off and gave him the title senior adviser. but i think george felt humiliated needlessly. you know it s a similar question. i have to say, outside of washington and media folks, the only people we re the only people that care about this. out in america, they care about who the president is, but the staff, they couldn t care less. charles, does i mean, does the president have anyone but himself to blame if he s not happy with the message that s getting out? of course not. what these people are willing asked to do is impossible. you cannot deliver truth if the man who is talking to you is lying. so they have to try to make rational something that is not rational. they have to try to make sense of something that simply does not make sense. and they have to make him look good,continues to make himself look bad. they try to put a good face on this, so they re trying to do something that cannot be done. and in the west wing, maybe that works, that everybody simply flatters the king. but in the real world, when you re facing real reporters who have done this for their entire lives, it doesn t fly. when you re facing the american public and they know you re lying, it simply doesn t fly. so it doesn t matter who it is. even if it s laura age ra aa in don t like her at all. she s not all that smart or that much of an honorable person, and anybody who has to step into this role, you have to go out and convince somebody who is lying, and that s a problem. there s no way to get around that. we re going to continue this discussion. more breaking news. the senate judiciary committee has reached an agreement about the scope of its investigation and may look at obstruction of justice. we do know that comey handed over his contemporaneous memos that documented his conversations with donald trump, right? and if james comey, if the special counsel, mueller, wanted those documents and wanted to see them, as far as i can tell, there s only one reason he would want them, to understand whether there was some kind of obstruction. so we know he s scratching the surface of that case. it s very interesting that the senate judiciary committee is looking into this, because it s an fbi matter, right? it s a criminal probe. but that suggests there are some senators who think at the end of the day, if there is a case that he did obstruct justice, the president is not going to be indicted. this is getting into the realm of politics and impeachment. charles, how many times have we had this story out, the president tweets something, and he s tweeted blatantly, i m under investigation, now his attorneys are saying no, he s not, yes, he is. then you have kellyanne conway saying he was being ironic. again, is the president kind of make sense? they can t do it. there s no way they re trying to make it better. he makes mistakes. he gets in his huff, probably before he even meets with his staff. i ll have to check the time on the tweet. they start at 6:00, but they trickle throughout the day. and even after he s coming off same, i m realizing that the time stamp is right after he gets off stage, giving a real speech. so you realize nobody can keep up with it. so they re basically just responding. not that i have any sympathy for them, i have none. you sure? no, zero. but i do understand what s happening. there s no way for them to keep it straight really. but i understand why the senate would be looking at that. if nothing comes out of this, nothing that compels him to issue a public report. the senate committees would do that. they might just want the american people to know the extent of whatever it is, they might want the american people to know. one thing that my friend marvin on his radio show in his earlier life was a chief of staff to the attorney general, says there s a memo from 1973 from the justice department that says the sitting president cannot be indicted. and that the new york times had a story not long ago which they quoted all sorts of legal experts. so the question is not that at all, nor can it be. it s still not settled, but all memos can be overwritten at any time. but this has never been settled by the supreme court. a lot of constitutional scholars know the president can t be indicted. ken starr of the independent counsel was considering indicting president clinton, but he decided not to. i do want to play this that a senator said to wolf blitzer said earlier today, that he believes michael flynn is a cooperating witness with the fbi. take a listen. all the signals are suggesting that he s already cooperating with the fbi, and may have been for some time. this would be just another bit of leverage for the prosecutors to make sure that he was cooperating and giving truthful testimony in order to avoid lengthy imprisonment. that s the conclusion from all of the evidence and experience from dealing with this. if that is the case, that s big. it s very big, and you have to wonder about other people making similar deals. if you re the trump people, you have to worry about that, that these are people that have to save their own hides. we have to take a quick break. ahead, more job creation for lawyers in washington, d.c. and son-in-law jared kushner seeks additional legal counsel because his current lawyer works at the firm that employs robert mueller. more on that ahead. i was thinking around 70. and before that? you mean after that? no, i m talking before that. do you have things you want to do before you retire? i d really like to run with the bulls. wow. hope you re fast. i am. get a portfolio that works for you now and as your needs change with investment management services. jared kushner is looking to beef up his legal representation. president trump s son-in-law and senior adviser has reached out to criminal lawyers to see if they would represent him in the federal investigation into alleged ties between the trump campaign and russia during the 2016 presidential race. our justice correspondent jessica schneider joins us with more. what do we know about this legal revach? it s twofold. jared kushner has contacted some high power criminal attorneys who could potentially step in and represent him as these investigations continue to unfold according to the new york times , who said some big names are being considered, including abby noel. and second of all, any change in attorney is being signed off by kushner s current attorney. she released this statement saying, after and then continue the fact that kushner is considering adding on a well respected or trading a well respected washington attorney for a tough litigator. we don t know why jamie wrote the letter that she did. there are a couple possible reasons here. one is even though it doesn t rise to the level of a formal conflict that would require her to recede from the case, nonetheless the appearance of impropriety with connections to mueller may be disturbing to kushner. there mofore he may want someon without that tie. and there s been public criticism from her. she is a liberal lawyer and received a lot of criticism for representing mr. kushner and ivanka trump. that may have played some role in this, too. you just never know. but whatever the case may be, there s nothing wrong with kushner seeking good representation. anybody who is being investigated by the doj should be advised to do so. and frankly, it speaks well of his current attorney that she would point out potential conflicts or the potential appearances of conflict. that seems like a good thing. the notion put forward by the president s lawyer over the weekend that a, the president is not under investigation for obstruction of justice, and b, he would know it if it were, is that the case? would the president be told that he was under investigation somebody no. it would belie logic, if the nib or the justice department was trying to conduct an investigation that was covert, trying to add as much information as they could before they alerted someone. you would not have the courtesy of being informed but you would know if you got a subpoena or you would know if you were going to be interviewed by the fbi or justice department. so frankly the only person that would be in position to know would be donald trump himself. but you re right, anderson, that is this, jared kushner is very, very prudent to think about having a legal team mean? i think there s a serious legal issue here whether mueller could investigate the president for obstruction of justice under his appointment letter. special counsel mueller is a special counsel. he s not the same thing as an independent counsel. that statute expired in 1999. congress didn t want to reauthorize it, because everybody got burned. they started out and london, both involved in vehicles used as weapons. the latest on the investigations, next. as unfathomable as the universe. a world that doesn t exist outside you. .but within you. where breakthrough science is replacing chemotherapy with immunotherapy. where we can now attack the causes of disease, not just the symptoms. where medicines once produced for all, are now designed to fit you. today 140,000 biopharmaceutical researchers go bodly to discover treatments and cures unimaginable ten years ago. .and are on the verge of more tomorrow. speak now. 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much of the world. one thing has worried me over these months, these he two super power egos would get into a test of whose is big we are the world itself is the stakes. none of that today. none of it, let s pray, ever. that s hardball. all in with chris hayes starts right now. tonight on all in president putin and i have been discussing thank you, thank you. russia says the american president he accepted a full denial of election interference. both sides have agreed to put it behind them. there was not a lot of relitigating of the past. what we know about everything that happened. vladimir putin met the donald trump behind closed doors. it is a forgery. the trump/russia for russia, the united states. it is an honor to be with you. the two leaders appeared chummy throughout the day. president trump even sharing a laugh with putin who has been accused of having journalists killed about, the american reporters covering their meeting. thank you. the two met behind closed doors for more than two hours. afterward, the only other american, secretary of state tillerson, claimed putin was pressed. the president opened the meeting with president putin by raising concerns of the american people regarding russian interference in the 2016 election. they had a very robust and lengthy exchange on the subject. the president pressed president putin on more than one occasion involving russian involvement. president putin denied such involvement as i think he has in the past. but tillerson s counter part emerged from the meeting with a very different story. translator: president trump has said that he has heard clear declarations from mr. trump that russian involvement has not interfered in the elections and he accepts the things that mr. putin has said. he semis this. they said lavrov s comments were not accurate. an unnamed official. while we have no way of saying what was said in private, we can he what president trump said in public. i think it was russia but i think it was probably other people and/or countries, and i see nothing wrong with that statement. nobody really knows. nobody really knows for sure. that was yesterday. this is giving the russian award. i think what the two presidents i think rightly focused on is how do we move forward? how do we move forward from here sf it s not clear to me that we will ever come to some agreed-upon resolution of that question between the two nations. many accounts indicate that russian election interference hasn t stopped here or abroad and it doesn t appear to be just elections. we learned yesterday, for example, that russians are suspected of hacking the nuclear sites in the u.s. a top pick did not even come up. joining me now from iraq, christopher hill. your reaction to the news that came out of today s meeting. well, first of all, i think it was a pretty successful meeting by all accounts. i was not very astonished that president trump talked about the hacking and putin denied and it president trump said okay, let s move ahead. what i thought was interesting, it appears that rex tillerson had a good day. he showed that he was able to put his imprint on some of the work they re doing. especially that deal and how it works out in syria. the big takeaway, they are announcing the cease fire had southwest syria, if i ll not mistaken. in some ways, that has been a big thing trump has signaled for a long time. working with isis and fundamentally being fine with assad staying. i think ultimately, that is the idea. the problem is the trump administration hasn t told us, what is the goal in syria? they don t seem to indicate, what do we want? do we want a unity state? do we want a parliament system? when they can define that, and maybe harmonize that with other players, including russia, then we have a chance of making the cease fire hold. i think it was small step in a small area in southwestern syria and i think they re trying to see if they can start process there. it was a fairly deafening silence on the issue of north korea. i don t think russia gave us anything at all. if someone pointed a nuclear missile at them, they would know what to do about it. i ll a little disappointed at how that conversation is turning out. the other issue i have, and i would be curious to your response. it seems there s not a particularly reliable narrator for what happened in that room. we have contrasting versions of what happened. the and there is a sort of grain of salt that it appears you have to take all accounts with. you ve got it. and it is not unusual to get two different readings of a meeting, lavrov and his customary charlieing way, that was quite at odds with what secretary of state tillerson said. that s why there are note takers. they sit on the side of the room and they take notes. apparently president trump didn t want anyone else in the room. i guess he looks at every note taker and thinks of that person as being a leaker. but there are reasons you have note takers. there was a moment i wbr id= wbr4621 /> want to play jumped out at me. take a listen. thank you. that s putin leaning over and saying to president wbr id= wbr4721 /> trump, these are the ones that insulted you. pointing to the press core. given that numerous journal the /b> i haves in russia have been murdered in cold blood, and often thought to be partly at the hands of putin or his surrogates, what did you make of that moment? to be frank, these two leaders have raised tastelessness to an art form. it is kinds of appalling that putin would do that. i think our president needs to be reminded now and again that there is a little dignity of this business and he d better lay off the press. it doesn t play well overseas or this country either. in this country, it is a mosh pit on everything. overseas, i don t think he should be playing game. the posture from tillerson and the president, and it seems to be what the russians want as well. let s just cabin that whole unpleasantness around the election. who is to say what really happened. and work together on mutual areas of shared interest. again, fine for the latter part. you do wonder what that means for what other future operations the russians may undertake. well, fair enough. there s an old adage that lawyers look backwards and diplomats look forward. and i think tillerson is trying to figure out what can be done as he looks forward. it is pretty appalling issue. where if it is true, if foreign minister lavrov s comment that president trump semied putin s explanation, then you kind of wonder, is he putting more faith in the kgb than the cia? there are big problems here. and i don t think we can let this go. now, tillerson was suggesting we come up with something and i think he was hinting at the fact we re all a little concerned about what would happen in the 2018th elections, if the russians were just warming up in 2016. i think this is quite an assault on russia s part on our process. and i think we have to be not only extremely vigilant but really, really pushing back the russians. and president obama did that with a few sanctions at the he believed there. frankly, this is a lot more serious than whether or not they get to use a weekend house if new york. ambassador christopher hill, thank you for being with me tonight. thank you. joining me now, moscow journalist, and the former cbs moscow correspondent, jonathan sanders. i ll start with you as someone who covered russian politics and putin specifically. what do you think he was looking for out of this meeting? he got everything he was looking for. first of all, the sentence, the two presidents. so he looked presidential. he was on the national, international stage as an equal to the most powerful man in the world. his probe to do something in syria has turned out to be quite been official for him. when they sent the russian earl into syria, president obama said it will be a quagmire. that quagmire is leading to a de-escalation and a peace process, and the very steps being taken have three routes. one is a city in kazakhstan where they started negotiating deconflictization. two is what john kerry was doing in the last days of the obama administration. and three is the dialogue after the shootdown of the syrian plane that went on between the american military and the russian military. that s leading to the beginning of the end of the war in spoir has gone on for seven years exclaimed 400,000 lives. that s a significant step forward. putin didn t get everything he wanted. we didn t hear putin saying anything to mr. trump about american exercises, military exercises in the baltic states. something that has ignored a lot of russians. so wasn t a perfect day for both sides bust it was a big plus for mr. trump, mr. putin, mr. tillerson, and always for sergei lavrov. and this does sflog fierce cold war atmosphere that has been whipping around us for so long. especially whipping around us on cable news programs. the idea of meddling, which is this word that keeps coming up. there is an interesting statement that tillerson said, we sort of agreed not to meddle in each other s internal affairs. and this has been something both the chinese and the russians have been laser focused on. the u.s. should keep its mouth shut about anything happening internalfully russia. and that seemed to me like a takeaway for putin. something that he has long sought. i feel like that is a pretty standard response when it comes to russian politics. they like to point to what the united states has done. whether it be meddling and other countries. electoral processes, regime change, things like that. so this was an opportunity for russia to say the same thing. i m surprised that trump brought up the election tracking issue on. one hand, you have to realize that no matter what he would have done, people here are going to be skeptical of him because there have been so many questions around this administration. so what would have been enough to bring it up in a more forceful manner rather than just saying, okay, we discussed it. my other question, other point that i want to make, we need to come up with a way of being tough on that issue. sanctions just don t work. and jonathan, you would know this. you spent a lot of time in moscow. the way the russians respond to pressure or childing from the international community, to keep doing it. to turn inward. that may be true with public perception. but the sanctions, after crimea have created significant hardship and upper rungs. it has been clear the russian state wants them lifted. and chris, they re on their way to being lifted. if the very smart way we saw tillerson trot out just before the meeting, that they ve appointed a special representative to deal with ukraine on the eastern regions, to begin to negotiate that and the man is supposed to be in moscow coming up, that s a very cher way to push this forward. i don t see how i don t 19 interrupt you. i don t see how that s possible given the political dynamics that president trump is dealing with at homes. russians went in going that was a nonstarter. not today, not tomorrow. but in six months, perhaps. that s the question, right? they re sort of concrete things the administration can do that putin would like to see they will do. give back as a starting point, the two compounds were seized as kind of retribution for the election activities. and then eventually lifting sanctions. there s tremendous pressure. at the corner of all this is this very big unresolved issue. that there was a sustained and sophisticated effort to criminally sabotage a campaign in the u.s. and one that has not been resolved or foresworn in any way. it seems hard to move on to other issues to a degree it is left hanging out there. chris, when the hearings began, senator warner said, oh, my. this is like propaganda on steroids. what s the surprise? propaganda? or steroids? the russians have been interested in doing things in american elections since 1920. it was ham handed before. now digital technology has changed things. we have to ask the basic question underlying this. why are they so good at hacking? why are they so good at cyber warfare? and why are we not particularly up to snuff and up to speed? the scary answer may be, their math education system far superior to ours. i think you have a good point in terms of human resources and people who are skilled at this. russia is very rich that way. true. that sounds uncomfortably close to blaming the bank for being ronald. we know that these things can happen. you can penetrate all sorts of inboxes and people get good at this. but there s a violation here that remains massively unresolved. and back to your point, from the context of any political situation that will move forward in this relationship, it can t just hang around as an unresolved thing and expect the politics to change. thank you both for your time tonight. thank you. ahead, can president trump agree to disagree? the conflicting reports and the reaction from capitol hill. ount. because each day she chooses to take the stairs. at work, at home. even on the escalator. that can be hard on her lower body, so now she does it with dr. scholl s orthotics clinically proven to relieve and prevent foot, knee or lower back pain, by reducing the shock and stress that travel up her body with every step she takes. so keep on climbing, sarah. you re killing it. dr. scholl s. born to move. yeah, and i can watch thee bgame with directv now.? oh, sorry, most broadcast and sports channels aren t included. and you can only stream on two devices at once. this is fun, we re having fun. yeah, we are. no, you re not jimmy. don t let directv now limit your entertainment. xfinity gives you more to stream to more wbr id= wbr11777 /> screens. meddling in another election process, we know about russia is trying to meddle with democracies. even house speaker wbr id= wbr11910 /> paul ryan can admit that what has been so hard, that russia interfered in /b> the 2016 election, according to the russian version he with what happened today, the president accepted putin s denial of any involvement in the election. giving equal credence to the u.s. intel xhublt s findings is a grave dereliction. the two countri first your response to this idea of a working group between the united states and russia to explore election interference or cyber security. well, you know, i hope that the american people won t fall for that kind of putting together of some kind of commission to deal with hacking and that s what they re describing. as a matter of fact, i think americans should be very, very concerned that this president sat down with putin who we know hacked into our election system to the dnc, and to many of the states that are now coming forward with this information. and to sit down with him and not have a real discussion. to delve into real concerns about what s happening and get a commitment from putin that they would never do it again americans want to hear that conversation. obviously, this president brought it into the room. there was. so pressure, from the media and everybody else, he could not afford to go into that room and not pretend he was dealing with the issue. he didn t deal with it. he took it up first. it was dismissed. it was intractable. now let s move on. and this thing about a commission and also, what they re going to do with syria and having some kind of cessation of the war there. i don t know if putin was in a position to negotiate and make all the differences for syria. not that i care about assad. but i would assume that he would have something to say about it. i think we re getting played by our president and certainly by putin. i don t like the idea that our president, again, would go into a room without any note takers, without any staff, without others who should be in the room who really understand foreign policy and who really understand putin, and come out of it saying how honored he is to meet with him and how in fact they re going to start meeting together. this is ball sanctions. of course, tillerson was in the room because that s at the top of his agenda. to lift the sanctions so they can drill into the arctic. you have trump who is agreeing to lift the sanctions and aboutt the dnc did. but them they fully cooperated with the requests that the filibuster made. so this guy is unhinged. and i think he is under so much pressure from this russian are investigation that when he is in the corner, all he does is he strikes back and he doesn t care about whether anything is true or not true. what did you make of that statement from the president? well, he doesn t know the difference between what podes podesta s role was with the dnc and clinton. what he thought he was setting up was this proof that we have no proof. that s what putin has said. that s what he continues to say. it is almost in your face, you can say what you want but you don t have any proof. i think this president, trump was playing into that and trying to say, well, you know, they have proof if they wanted to share it but they wouldn t let us see it so they must not have any proof. he thought when he did that, that he was nailing podesta. because he had control of the dnc and the server so we can dismiss that as another trump not knowing what he s talking about, not knowing what he s doing, and trying to give some cover to putin. that s what that is all about. people, we must keep our eye on these sanctions. first of all, the united states senate has passed legislation. very strong lotion sanctions. we must support that. because putin didn t just the want trump elected because he didn t like hillary. it is because he knew that trump would be a part of helping to lift those sanctions. and i call the kremlin klan all of those allies of the president who will benefit from it. who have indicated their connections to russia and to putin and the oligarchs. so they re trying to play us. we should not buy into anything that we ve heard happened. because we don t really know. and he does not want us to know. he wants us to be in that position where we re trying to figure out what they said and we can t be certain. it is not substantive and we have to keep our eyes on sanctions. thank you for joining me tonight. you re welcome. the ethics office is stepping down. i ll ask him why he is leaving now. mom, i have to tell you something. dad, one second i was driving and then the next. they just didn t stop and then. i m really sorry. i wrecked the subaru. i wrecked it. you re ok. that s all that matters. 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well, i have only got really good things to say about the ethics program that president bush ran and the ethic program that president obama ran. we got off to kind of a good start initial when i this administration because he had picked an the excellent transition team and we worked an outside nonprofit group to bring the two campaigns transition teams together and work them and help make sure they were ready for the transition. and i have to say a great respect for both teams. i saenlt congratulations e-mail to the winning team and i sincerely told them i was looking forward to working with they will i got a very nice message back saying they felt supported by oge and were looking forward to getting down to the task at handled. and then they were replaced about our current council of the president. since then i would stay ethics program has been a very serious disappointment in the white house. what do you mean by that? the ethics program, is a compliance based program in many ways. we have very basic bare bones criminal laws, civil laws, administrative regulations, that say here s the absolute minimum you re going to do. that s just the skeleton. and the meet of the program has been the ethical traditions and the norms that has evolved over 40 years. and we re able to say, in most cases, that we have the gold standard of ethics programs internationally. and that federal employees are not just merely not criminals. that appointees are not just avoiding violating laws but they go further and come apply with those traditions. an example is that with presidential nominees, the primary criminal conflict of interest statute says you can t participate in something where you have a conflict of interest. so you can come into government and keep all of your could not financial interests and not run afoul of that law if you were will to put your feet up on that zpeks read your newspaper all day and do your job. that s unworkable. we take a risk management approach. we set up other mechanisms to prevent conflicts of interest and we are two steps back from the line. the consistent approach that i m running into has been, if it is not illegal, we re going to do it. if there s an argument, we re going to do it. that has undermined the program that has existed for four decades. what i m hearing is they have taken an aggressive posture in terms of where they can set up with respect to the line on conflicts, particularly. this is a really important question. your job is to certify that there s no conflicts. i want to talk about, i want to you give me this. can you definitively say that everyone in the white house including the president, free of conflicts of interest? well no. we ve received very little information about what the individuals in the white house do on a day-to-day basis for a living. they ve negotiated ethics agreements and they ve refused to even let the office of government ethics see it. we ve asked for information. it is like pulling teeth. weeks go by before we get answers in many cases. after i issued a data call for all the waivers and notifications that were issued at the end of april, they refused to anxious any questions from my staff whether any individuals had received waivers. so i want to be really clear. there are criminal conflict status. there are people who retain, they have to recuse themselves. can you differeefinitively stat they have gdone that? to be fair, i would have to rework that question a little bit. i m not trying to dodge but it is a little more nuanced than. that i would like to say there is no basis for any specific violations. i don t have enough information to say definitively there could not be that. the bigger concern is because this is a risk management program, it has become clear that they have a much higher tolerance for risk than we do. we have a lot more concern over presidential no, ma am nieces. they have to get our sign-off before they can get a hearing to come into government. white house appointees are in government long before we get their reports and we re almost doing a post mortem to see if there was a conflict of interest. with nominees, we work to prevent them in advance. so documenting a higher level of risk is inconsistent with how we ve run this program. people have said, is there definitely a violation. or can you definitively say that? 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even if it s true you plant a permanent question. a permanent asterisk. a permanent who knows. as to whether that too might be falts like that other story. whether that too might be based on fake evidence. so head s up, everybody. part of the defense against this trump-russia story includes somebody presenting a classified report and shopping it to other news authorities. david k. johnson, next. award winning interface. award winning design. award winning engine. the volvo xc90. the most awarded luxury suv of the century. visit your volvo dealer today and get up to $4,500 in allowances. i .prilosec otc 7 years ago,my doctor recommended. 5 years ago, last week. just 1 pill each morning, 24 hours and zero heartburn. it s been the number 1 doctor recommended brand for 10. .straight years, and it s still recommended today. use as directed. my hands that if i run with it and it is a fake i m blown up. right. and in that case the white house authenticated the document. but there is a real serious problem we re going to see more of in the future, chris, with fabricating documents to mislead news organizations. it s not entirely new. you may recall in the george w. bush documents case that affected dan rather and cbs that while the documents were shown to be fakes, kate and another reporter at the the new york times interviewed the general s secretary who said well, you know, that s exactly what he was saying at the time in the office and he did have documents though i didn t type them. in that case and others that i m aware of, there have been cases where you take a document you know is real, and we recreate what will be exposed as a fabrication to discredit the issue. so the broader thing to me at this moment is, governor paul lepage in maine, a big trump supporters with tells the media something. let s flood the tip lines with fake tips and times saying the that the white house tried to do this. i know people who have said the white house has attempted to shop them fake story to get them to run it so they can rebut them because it is a valuable, particularly in the moment in this white house to call this fake news. wh what do you about that? you have to be extremely careful with documents that don t come out of a public report. if you copy it out of the courthouse record, that s one thing. and if it s too good to be true it probably is. when i was exposing the lapd s massive worldwide spying, i got a document one day that was unbelievably juicy and i looked at it and said this is too good, it s too new. and when i i came to learn years later from a senior officer that in fact it was planted in an effort to discredit me. you have to be careful when handling documents to authenticate them and you have to show them to the people you re going to write about or broadcast about and get their responses to it. and there is at this point this sort of ratcheting up of the stakes, because of this idea of fake news that if you there s a real incentive on the part of the white house to kind of get people to get stuff wrong, even on sort of easy stuff, not big cloak and dagger stuff with documents being fabricated but easy stuff. because at this point it s such a kind of core narrative that they re telling the country about basically them against a duplicitous press. let s remember that vladimir
corn, nice and easy for those dogs. they did great. that s the fox report for the sunday. thanks for watching. we go from surfing to watters world which starts right now julie: watters world starts now. jesse: watters world is on. tonight . this notion they have to learn english before they document united states. are we just going to bring in people from britain and australia? have you never net an immigrant who speaks english from other countries than britain and australia? her husband nicely asked her please stop doing this it wasn t about political leanings. it s about respecting your partner. she is yelling make america great again in bed. when immigrants come into the united states, do you think they had to speak english? absolutely. when you come to america you should speak english and be able to get a job. welcome to watters world. i m jess he watters. peks moisturing immigration reform for personal gain. president trump threw his support behind a new legal immigrant reform. republican senators want to cut the number of green cards issued in half and high-skilled workers, english speakers and financially stable people would get a leg up and extended flame members would get less of a priority. instead of letting in someone s cousin who doesn t have an education or speak english. president trump wants to bring in skilled english speakers. jim acosta is a guy president trump kneecapped twice this year for getting out of line. can you give us a question. you are attacking us. i am not going to give you a question. i am not going to give you a question. if you are fake news. i m changing it to very fake news. jesse: during the white house press briefing with white house senior advisor stephen miller jim acould today started by reciting the statue of liberty poem. things got ugly for acosta people from great britain and australia? i am shocked at your statement that you think only people from great britain and australia would know english it s so insulting to millions of hard-working immigrants who speak english from all over this world. have you never met an immigrant who speaks english outside of great britain and as you trail yeah? it shows your bias. it sounds like you are trying to engineer the ethnic flow of people of into this country. that s one of the don t know outrageous, insulting, foolish and ignorant thing you have ever said. the notion that you think this is a racist bill is so wrong and so insulting. jesse: earth to acosta. the united states has the largest immigrant population of the world. not in the white house press room. we are used to the mainstream media getting it wrong with donald trump. polls show him at an all-time low approval rating but you look at rally and it reminds you why he got elected. i didn t come to washington for me. i came to washington for you. your dreams are my dreams. your hopes are my hopes, and your future is what i m fighting for email and every day. the russia story is a total fabrication. it s just an excuse for the heatest loss in the history of mayor for the greatest loss in the history of american politics. what the prosecutors should be looking at are hillary clinton s 33,000 deleted emails. democrat lawmakers will have to decide. they can continue their obsession with the russian hoax or they can serve the interests of the american people. try winning at voter booth. try winning at the voter booth. it s not going to be easy. but that s the way you are supposed to do it. most of people know there were no russians in our campaign. there never were. we didn t win because of russia. we won because of you. have you seen any russians in west virginia or ohio or pennsylvania? are there any russians here tonight? any rugs? jesse: the president s working class base is eating that up. does that show what real americans are feeling? joining me now marjorie clifton and bre peyton, staff writer at the federalist. when you look at that video and see president trump swimming out there with that beautiful crowd. he has a very strong bond with his army of supporters. the media can t do anything about that bond and it just drives them crazy. all throughout the election, all of their coverage said america you will vote for hillary clinton and she ll win and america said no. now i think they are upset by the and they are trying to take it out on americans. you have seen a lot of snotty remarks. the the boston globe did a story where they lamented the spot that some of the best viewing spots for the solar eclipse happen to be in areas that overwhelmingly voted for donald trump. they are stretching so hard in order to insalt these people. to insult these people. i think they are salty about what happened. jesse: speaking of snotty reporters. marjorie i want to draw your attention to stuart rothen berg. he said this when said president trump wants to cut english immigration by half and bring in english-speaking immigrants. he said lots of people in west virginia can t support themselves and speak english. and doubled down when called out on it. he said of course they are hard work and mean well. but provincial and easily misled. my wife s dad was a coal miner in pennsylvania. how out of touch is that? then throwing in, my wife s dad was a coal miner. that s like saying i m not racist with my dentist is black. on both sides of the aisle people are focused on themselves and tone deaf to what they are saying. i hear a lot of yelling and a lot of things turning a lot of americans off to politics. what we know to be true in terms of the media, it s been somewhat redefined. everyone find media sources and outlets that echo what they already believe. their belief systems are shaped by the media. but all in all we are not thinking about the whole picture. we are making issues very black and white. jesse: i think people are tuning into cnn because they are tuning into a place where they say what they already believe. the trump administration created 200,000 jobs. the gdp number was very strong. there have been a lot of announcements about companies creating jobs. is that the winning that s being overlooked by the mainstream media? we haven t seen any policies passed in the new administration. i don t see that as winning on anyone s part. jesse: you don t see job creation as winning? the job creation numbers have been steadily in that range for the past five years. jesse: that s not true. president trump has already created a million jobs since he has been elected. consumer confidence is at an all-time high. and the stock market is at an all-time high. bre, i ll give you the last word. something interesting and unique about the trump administration. he doesn t necessarily have to do concrete things like legislation to get results. not a single brick in the wall has been set. jesse: and border crossing are way down based on rhetoric and enforcement alone. we would like to see a few legislative accomplishments. i have got to run. thank you so much. another week, another leak. is it time to lock up these traitors? watters world investigates. i take the immigration debate to lady liberty. when people do come into this country, do you think we should just let anybody in or should we keep your hair strong against hot styling tools. .with pantene 3 minute miracle daily conditioner. a super concentrated pro-v formula makes hair stronger in just 3 minutes. so it s smoother every day. because strong is beautiful. : . : . : . : : my dad says our insurance doesn t have that. don t worry - i know what a lug wrench is, dad. is this a lug wrench? maybe? you can leave worry behind when liberty stands with you™. liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual insurance. jesse: the trump administration had an average of almost a leak a day since he has been in office. the nation s top cop says it s time to lock up the leakers and the media better watch out, too. we are reviewing policies affecting media subpoenas. we respect the important role the press plays and we ll give them respect. but it is not unlimited. they cannot place lives at risk with impunity. we must balance the press role with protecting our national security and the lives of those who serve in the intelligence community, the armed forces and all law-abiding americans. mercedes, i believe the leakers and the media are colluding to overthrow the will of the people. that s strong, jesse. very powerful. i think that it s very clear the justice department is taking very important steps in stopping this culture of the leaks. it s incredibly problematic. it doesn t allow a government to run effectively. the individuals leaking classified information, they are on a northerly crusade. they want to insure that nothing gets done or whatever is happening for the president, that they are able to impede any progress. jesse: they are on a moral crusade and they think they are above the law which they are not. jeff sessions we are going to look at some of these journalists who are feeding off of some of these leaks. can t they just say we are start look at phone record and email record and polygraphing people? that s the next step, right? the investigation will include looking into the emails and phone record. this is where journalists get nervous. you have had journalists go to jail because they don t want to give up a source. in this case you will find an increased tension between some of these news organizations and the government. journalists for the most of part, they are the ones that have to say and ask the question, if i publish this information, what does this mean in terms of affecting the national security. that s how the news organizations work normally in deciding whether they are going to allow this information to go public. jesse: decent organizations weigh whether they will jeopardize national security and whether the american public deserves to know the truth. but they never err on the side of protecting national security. i don t think the media or the democrats want the leaks to stop. they love this idea they are able to get the information from these sources, particularly the leak that have to deal with classified information. there is a price to pay. it s a criminal activity. it s something we have seen under president trump. you have seen 2 leaks we have seen in the first five months under president trump. president obama was only 8? it s telling. jesse: it s a whole new environment and trump better get tough or the swamp is going to destroy them. it s the president s favorite nickname. she is a hopeless case. she is an insult to pocahontas. jesse: the real indian challenging elizabeth warren for challenging elizabeth warren for her seat. 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the city council debating what a sanctuary city even is. this ordinance is a safety ordinance. i don t know what sanctuary city means. i don t think there is a definition. when we react to the people s voice whether it be an initiative petition and by law reacting in the proper way. councilman wagner says the fairest way to get the vote of the people is an election, she is wrong, we all know that. jesse: i m joined by two people who were there. so pedro, let me start with you. you are chanting something, whose streets, our streets. whose streets are they? i think they belong to everybody. jesse: everybody including illegal immigrants. everyone who is a resident. i don t think it s for i.c.e. or homeland security. anybody who lives in the city is a resident. jesse: there is a difference between reef siding somewhere and being a legal resident. if you are a illegal immigrant and criminal illegal immigrants. you are not really a resident because you don t belong there. the city after seeing this crime spree that this illegal all yenlt went on allegedly raping 14-year-old and 19-year-old, shattering bones. how is the city not change the sanctuary city law. there is a majority on the burien city that subjected the city to the sanctuary ordinance. they are not inclined to give the citizens a vote. jesse: the citizens aren t allowed to vote on whether they want the city to be a sanctuary city? those four-vote members violated state law. we are pursuing this through court so they will get their day on the ballot. it s the case because like my world until seattle it s been made a sanctuary it s been made a racketeer corrupt organization by democrats who rely on campaign donations and support from labor the unions who are littered with illegal immigrants. in burien this is just a symptom of a continuing ongoing lawless activity by those forces so they can gain political power and enter the city council and keep doing their work. please respond to what craig just said it s encouraging lawlessness when you don t enforce the law. you are okay with lawlessness in your own community? i think mr. keller needs to do a little bit of research into our community. clearly he s not from burien, but that s okay, we are a welcoming city, he can move in any time he wants to. just like you did. thank you. what we have is a zero tolerance for violent crimes numbers no safe haven for these crime irrespective of whether the person has legal status or not. jesse: you are saying an illegal alien is charged with a crime, you are saying i.c.e. is notified and a detainer can get slapped on them? from my understanding, of course mr. keller, maybe he can correct me. what we have with the sheriffs who we subcontract our police to. that information would get transferred over to a local i.c.e. agency. jesse: i don t know if you guys know if you are a sanctuary city or not. apparently you are as confused as the city council members. speaking of immigration, this week the white house unveiled changes to legal immigration policy. it cuts green cards in half to 500,000 a year. it gives priority to people with higher education and english speakers that can contribute to the workforce. the left hated it. but i wanted to find out what the people thought. i headed to the statue of liberty to find out. when immigrants come into the united states, do you think they should have to speak english? absolutely. they should be able to speak the language and have knowledge and know what s going not world. if i m going into a foreign country and i m going to be there for a certain period of time you better believe would learn the language. jesse: when you came into america did you know how to speak any english? a little bit. jesse: did you learn english right away? yes. jesse: when people do come into this country do you think we should let anybody in or have qualifications about who we bring in? we should have a good immigration process. we need to focus on paying taxes. you don t know what their back ground is and you don t know what they can bring into our country. they should have a background check. jesse: do you think it s mean and racist to control your immigration policy? no, if it s labeled as racist it s just another way for the liberal media to look us look horrible when we just want what s best for america. you have to find if the right balance in protecting your own. jesse: how do you like america so far? america is great. i went to college. it s very diverse. jesse: what do you think the statue of liberty means? it s a symbol for the greatoff thing on earth. jesse: what do you think of cnn s jim acosta? i couldn t watch the clinton news network. have you never meth an immigrant from another country who speaks english outside of great britain and australia? is that your experience? it shows your bias. jesse: what do you think of donald trump? good guy. everybody loves me. jesse: do you know who i am? no, but my husband does. he said watters world. jesse: how the 2016 presidential election ruined a florida power couple s marriage. now the former nf there cheerleader speak out for the first time. al gore getting burned big time by his own green greens. how are your teeth whiter than mine? your strips are slippy. .mine are grippy. crest whitestrips stay in place. crest whitestrips professional effects. .lock in the whitening for a whiter smile. these aren t going anywhere. these are. crest. .healthy, beautiful smiles for life. : . : .eing our : . this window will not last for long. lendingtree is the only place to compare up to 5 real refinance offers against your current mortgage - for free. are you sure you have the best rate? take 3 minutes and find out right now. because at lendingtree, when banks compete, you win. southern new hampshire university. which saves money. insurance a smarter way. they offer paperless billing and automatic payments. which saves paper. which saves money. they offer home and auto coverage, so you can bundle your policies. which saves hassle. which saves money. and they offer a single deductible. which means you only pay once when something like this happens. which saves money. esurance was born online and built to save. and when they save, you save. that s home and auto insurance for the modern world. esurance. an allstate company. click or call. jesse: time for real news. this week i m joined by watters world favorites diamond and silk. nice to have you guys here in studio this time. thank you for having us. this is amazing. jesse: how does it feel to be in watters world in the flesh? it s wonderful. jesse: i want to start off with jeff sessions, a.g. he wants to crack down on leakers. if you guys were attorneys general what would you like to see happen to these leakers? we would like to see them go straight to jail. go directly to jail. also get the people who work with the leakers it s a crime to leak out classified information. jesse: you would press the people in jail, too. the press should not commit a crime with the leakers. president trump in west virginia the other day lit it up. this is what he seth said about the russian hoax. we didn t win because of russia. we won because of you. have you seen any russians in west virginia, ohio or pennsylvania? are there any russians here tonight. any russians? jesse: have you seen russians running around in north carolina where you are from? it s a slap in people s face when they say russia, russia, russia. or maybe they are mixed up when we rush to the polls. jesse: you believe there is nothing to see here, there is no problem. because the press is making him out to be a traitor. this is a witch hunt. jesse: and your prediction on this mueller investigation? everything will be okay? i wish the president would fire mueller. that s comey s homey. jesse: that would get trump in even more trouble. they are on a witch hunt. we have nasty prosecutors. we have to stop this here. do not do this to our president and undermine this administration with russia. jesse: al gore is a green guy. but it turns out not so green. they did a little study on gore s estate. turns out his nashville residents, 10,000 square foot residence uses 21 times more energy than the typical u.s. home. do as i say not as i do al gore. any response to al? he sounds like a hypocrite. why is he using so much energy? how come al gore went into the white house middle class and now he s filthy rich? jesse: he s worth 200 to $300 million? that s a lot of green. you don t have solar panels on your house do you? no. jesse: up next the trump divorce defense. one woman said herselfies with the president and the first lady ruined her marriage. she joins me next. save 30% through august 15th at ancestrydna.com. he knew you were a republican, right? that s correct. jesse: were you a rabid republican? were you going to weekend every weekend or a normal political person? i was into politics but it wasn t my career like it was his. we both considered ourselves moderate. jesse: so trump comes along and you are getting pumped up because you support the president when he was running. did that start to affect the relationship when trump got the nomination? oh, yeah. my ex-husband to be and his support never expected trump to last that long. so every time he would make it through the next hurdle they would get more upset and i was the bad guy because i you are ported him. jesse: would he get up set with you and would you argue at night? or was it just about his political campaign and how it affected that? it was more about the politic and his base supporters. at home we were fine. we didn t talk about it. but it was the backlash he was getting his far left base. jesse: he s a democratic politician in florida and his supporters hated the fact that the wife their guy was a trump supporter. correct. there are a lot of democrat around here. i was like the only republican around. jesse: what were the political people tell you to to do? stop wearing the great america great again hats? if i had done that, it would cause uproar. they would tell me to take pictures down or post pictures later if we went to mar-a-lago. jesse: you would go to mar-a-lago, the president s summer home, as they say, and his supporters hated that. they would be outside marching and rioting. jesse: when did it come to a head it was like rinse, this isn t working. my love for trump is getting in between the marriage and you are not going to change. what happened? well, i mean, the president was only in office i filed for divorce february 24. it was just the conflict was too much. it was the straw that broke the camel s back. jesse: you told the judge that? that trump got in between the marriage? yeah, yeah. jesse: did trump know he split you guys up? he probably heard by now. but i don t know. jesse: he s watters world fan. he s probably watching on air force one. i guess it wasn t meant to be. up next. what are my political ambitions? think your heartburn pill works fast? 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deplorables moment. you look at donald trump and particularly at working poor white vote, and people who probably have the most to lose from him, very strongly voted in his direction. now do you explain the difference between those times of outcomes you are describing. how people can intelligently perceive their ownself-interests and the way people their own self-interests. part of this is a stew of racists. jesse: insulting half the country is un-american. half tn forbid hill heaven foar heaven forbid hillary lot because of her policies. ironic that a woman who lied about her race claiming she is native american to get into harvard is calling millions of broadcast coverage of trump has been 89% negative. in contrast 8 years ago in the coverage of president trump of president obama s first 100 days. one of the men fighting back is dadan scovino. when the media is not telling the truth regarding president trump and the administration, the steam, all the infighting going on, that s all i ever hear about. 85% of it is false it s fake news. hashtag fake news. we watch that from inside in the west wing and we laugh. we literally laugh because it s not true. i m not going to say none of it is true, but i would say 85% we ll get to the 85% trending on twitter. 85% is not true. it s fake news. jesse: how would you say the media is covering the president so far? there are certain outlets fair to the president such as fox news. am i going to get a violation for perverting fox news. when you speak you are afraid to say anything when you are working for the government. jesse: do you think because the president s twitter account is driving the liberals crazy, does that mean it s working? yes. any staffer that works at the white house. all their twitter accounts is driving the liberals insane. jesse: when liberals say the president has to stop tweeting so much, what do you say about that. let trump be trump. let him deliver his message to the american people unfiltered. jesse: social media controversial under trump. i don t look at it as controversial. he s delivering his message to the american people web s delivering his message to 100 million people on all his platforms. he s in the white house today because of social media. it s what won him the white house. and he will just keep tweeting and delivering his message to the american people. i have known the president since i was 16 years old in high school. caddie for him. worked in the bag room. i get the rap for being the caddie who runs the social media campaign. but people tend to forget certain individuals who for 15 years prior i had a professional career. jesse: when did you first realize how powerful the president s twitter account was? pretty much immediately. it was always powerful. he always delivered a message with millions of followers. i would say within the first week. jesse: when you are with the president, how does he tweet? does he do it with his own fingers? how does that work? top secret information. president trump does tweet on his own. with his own fingers and send it. he will dictate to me when we are on the road. but verbatim they are his words. everything you see on his twitter account @realdonaldtrumpis his. we like to say bing. that s 100% him in the evenings and mornings. jesse: you are not there at 4:00 a.m. when he s tweeting. i m not there but i get alerts on my phone. jesse: what do you think the president s most infamous treats were the last two or three years? there are serve that stand out. the most infamous tweet i would have to go with the taco bowl. jes. jesse: mine is happy new year to all my enemies and those who fought me and lost so badly they don t know what to do. i have one small request. could president trump follow jesse watters on twitter? i ll see him in the white house in a few minutes and we ll see what happens. i can t say yes for him. jesse: very good job. jesse: dan is a man of his word. president trump now following jesse watters on twitter. thank you very much. the book that has the clinton campaign freak out, ex prosing what really happened during the campaign. rick perry, the new secretary of energy sit down for his first interview exclusively with watters world. jesse: you had rough word for donald trump during the campaign. any message for . .. . . . . . . . . . y282sy ywty but so we don t have tormin wad to get clean. charmin ultra soft gets you clean without the wasteful wadding. it has comfort cushions you can see that are softer. .and more absorbent, and you can use up to 4 times less. enjoy the go with charmin. when this guy got a flat tire in the middle of the night, so he got home safe. . . . out hope for north carolina and pennsylvania and other states. when they started seeing those falling, there was a call placed by the white house to inside the peninsula hotel in new york where clinton and her aides huddled. there was pressure the white house to concede. and there was a debate in the room. there were some aides who wanted to carry this on to the next day to see if some votes would come in eventually. jesse: at what point in the night were the calls coming in from the white house for clinton to concede. there was one call by president obama and another by his top political aide urging them to concede that night. they did not want to drag this out until morning. they wanted a smooth transition. so secretary clinton asked for a phone, she said let me call him. she says the words she never thought she would say, congratulations, donald. jesse: she dragged that out after blasting trump for saying he wouldn t abide by the result of the election immediately afterwards. there is also a juicy nugget and i commend this book it s a well-written book about in 2008 after she lost, she goes back and she actually digs in and spies on old emails from her former campaign after. is that actually true? she wanted a postmortem done on how she lost the campaign it was unexpected. this was part of a long autopsy where she called in aides and advisers in that summer to find out what went wrong. she also asked a couple of aides to go through emails and see who was leaking to whom. jesse: pretty shocking. the big story line of 2016 was email and she couldn t escape that cloud of email. jesse: this book of yours is causing so much conner nation within the clinton world. according to the new york post page 6 she is trying to find the leakers, because someone must have leaked some of this stuff to you. she is worried about leaks now which is ironic. judging by the tone of the book about hillary, it seems like she is having a hard time throughout the campaign coming to grips with the country. i want to put up some words on the screen here. here is a quote from hillary. i don t understand what s happening with the country. i can t get my arms around it. that really sums up a lot of the clinton campaign. wouldn t you agree? 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[chancellor] adam baily. saying the strike on the uss carl vinson it would be an example of its military force. president trump ordered it them to sail the waters off the peninsula. this comes after north koreans have detained an american in the countrys a a to help starving citizens i worked in the coal mines 37 years. a man who wants to working finds work in a coal mine. they are said and done with coal. nobody will be able to afford to live. we all work for a living down here. it s like work kicked to the side. i mean, makes you feel like a piece of dirt, it s what it makes me feel like. jesse: that was one of west virginia s coal miners who president trump promised to put back to work. earlier this week i had the honor of sitting down with rick perry for his first interview since becoming secretary of energy. well come to watters world. i made it. jesse: the regulations you were con frojts when you came on board. tell me about those what you have done to loosen the reins and let capitalism flow. the governor of the 123th largest economy in the woorltd. if tough free people from overtaxation, overregulation and have a skilled workforce, they will you are in i and they will come to where that occurs. that s what donald trump wants to see for america. he wants to see predicts built. he wants to cut taxes so people get to keep more of what they work for. and it s not rocket science. it just takes the political will. the previous administration wanted to regulate. they felt like washington centric regulation would be the key to putting their world vine to place. donald trump doesn t believe in that. he believes in a world view where people get to keep more of what they work for. free people from overregulation. that s not to say he s not for keeping the environment safe. he s not for making sure that america and her citizens are economically sounds and this country safe. absolutely. but he knows it can happen, and it will happen when you free americans from overtaxation and overregulation. is the wash on coal over? it is from the trump administration standpoints. i m sure there are some who don t share our world view that will say coal is a bad thing. i think they are becoming myopic when it comes to allowing inowe vision. just like there was a peek oil ideology back 15 years ago. we found all the fossil fuel. but because of innovation, we found out there is a lot of fuels there that we ll have the ability to use. jesse: when you were in texas as a governor, texas had a lot of the wind power. is that something the trump administration is looking to generate as well? the trump administration is for all of the above. we ll let the market drive from where that comes from and how it s done. states will play a significant role. jesse: what would you tell al gore who says global warming is a crisis and you guys are doing all these things? i don t argue the climate is change and i don t argue mainls having an impact on it. but you can t have economic growth and clean up your environment. they have a world view that you have got to get rid of coal and move away from fossil fuels and it all has to be renewables. we are supporters of remewables. the president is for the all of the above strategy. al gore and i probably disagree government has all the answers. that government regulations globally we are now seeing this leveling off of our emissions, co2, and america and china are the countries that have led that charge. so we are making some good progress here. we happen to believe that you can t have jobs 12th largest economy in the world, i m talking about texas here. we saw economic growth, wealth creation, quality of life increasing at the same time to clean up the air. it can happen. it is happening. and, you know, i hope our friends around the world will join us in that. there is probably some lessons they can learn from the united states. jesse: you were put into the national security council, is that because the department of energy oversees the nuclear programs. there is probably a lot of reasons the secretary of energy needs to be sitting at that table when decisions are made. there are myriad tent kalts that go deep and broad out of the department of energy that affect the security our country. jesse: you during the campaign had rough words for donald trump back then. donald trump s candidacy is a cancer on conservatism and it must be clearly diagnosed, exielsd, and discarded. donald trump does not have the character, nor does he have the temperament to be the commander-in-chief. that incendiary rhetoric you hear out of donald trump whether it s the immigrants population or our veterans point s unacceptable. jesse: now you are in the cabinet. any question about republicans becoming united? i m a big believer that our vision is the right vision for america. i said some harsh things about the president. he s a very forgiving man, and he s proven that. but we are on a team. i hope all people who share this vision that america strong economically, that we can use our energy resources will recognize that we may not get everything we want. as a governor, one of the things learned. i would rather have a half a love man no love. jesse: i was in your neck of the woods and i learned one thing, don t mess with texas. that s watters world. jesse: big news for watters world and my colleagues at fox news. i will explain. what it s like inside north what it s like inside north korea. this is bill s yard. and bill has a no-weeds, not in my yard policy. but with scotts turf builder weed & feed, bill has nothing to worry about. it kills weeds and greens grass, guaranteed. this is a scotts yard. a60% of women are wearing the w.experience leaks. introducing always my fit. find the number that s right for your flow and panty size on the top of any always pack. the better the fit, the better it protects. always. we re out ink,nk! not ink. printing doesn t have to be painful. now, during hp savings month at staples, get up to $180 off hp printers. inside? michael malice has been there. and the author of dear reared. you were there a few years back. you were inside a bookstore in north korea. what did you learn from being inside a store like that? when you are in a book store the on books there are written by or about kim jong-un and his father. these are the only people who exist in their mythology. regular human beings don t matter. jesse: no selection just books about the leader and books written by the leader. you were a computer lab. do they have the internet? they have the intranet. most people in the country don t have electricity. but increasingly they are getting memory sticks from the south in china and finding out what s going on in the rest of the world. jesse: do they get beat weren t sticks afterwards? you were in a hospital. how is the healthcare? during the 90s, kim jong-il refused aid so they saw the return of polio. they boast doctors donate their skin for skin grafts, and people donate parts of their own body to help their countrymen. jesse: are there con accumulator systems there? they had sun beds. someone there and there were computers in the hall, but they weren t plugged in. you would walk into the labs and people are look in their microscopes. if you are work and people walk in you will glance up. jesse: these are props for you. whenever you go to north korea you are given a guided tour of the nation. but everything in north korea has something wrong with it. there is a crack in every wall. jesse: everything is decaying and they can t afford to maintain it? is that the deal, because they don t have enough many? the mobby is going toward the military and keeping the regime in power. jesse: what was your interaction with the people like? did you engage with them? i got in their face and waved because i knew their resks would be sincere. what people need to understand is they are quote normal people. grandmas deeght over their grandchildren. and the teenaged girls giggle. they are trying to have a human life in the most inhumane country in earth. jesse: some people say when you even gang with people in north korea you are dealing with actors. we saw elementary school class out in the parks and all the kids were look over their shoulders at us genuinely curious. these weren t child across toirs. jesse: when you look at the newspaper over there, what does it say on the front page of the newspaper. there is only one airline. they would give you the newspaper, but the paper is three years old. by the doesn t matter because it has the same headline. the monotony is a subtle form of brainwashing to keep the people caring only about their leaders. jesse: we make jokes about fake news here but that s real fake news. they are taught that we start the korean war. when they learn that kim il-sung started the war, it s analogous to you and i discovering the u.s. bombed the japanese at pearl harbor. ugh! heartburn! no one burns on my watch! try alka seltzer heartburn relief chews. they work fast and don t taste chalky. mmmmm.amazing. i have heartburn. alka seltzer heartburn relief chews. enjoy the relief. with all the things you ll never learn from a book. expedia. everything in one place, so you can travel the world better. when a fire destroyed the living room. we were able to replace everything in it. liberty did what? 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it s suicide. he wrote john 3:16 across his forehead and left three notes. at the end of the day we are better off because he s no longer with us. i didn t want to waste that much time talking about him his week. the interesting aspect of this is why would he kill himself. what is the incentive. there is some incentive. that s to protect his estate from civil litigation. once he kills himself and because he did not go through the entire legal procession. there is an arcane law in massachusetts that basically vacates the initial sentence. jesse: so he s trying to do the right thing for his family. for his daughter. i think a the family is also donating his brain for cte research. jesse: are they saying because he took so much hits to the head, that s why he committed these acts? they could be look for money to his estate from the nfl. there is a portion of the patriot contract that could go to his estate. there is legal wrangling going on here. i think he has done himself a fave and everybody else a favor that has anything to do with him. jesse: sorry for playing the nfl fox jingle in the open. i know you are a cbs guy. but i felt you could take it. we are kind of long island guys together. i know you moved to long island. i grew up in long island. but i jesse: big changes at fox news. details up next. . .. . . . . . . . try phillips fiber good gummies! jesse: many of you know bill o reilly is no longer with fox news. change is hard and i m very grateful for my time on the fact eastern learned so much. i also have. announcements to make. i ll be co-hosting the five which is moving to 9:00 p.m. eastern. eric bolling will stay at 5:00 p.m. to be part of the news show there. watters world will continue to stay at saturday night at 8:00 eastern. so now you will be getting watters all week starting monday. it may be too much, but you have been warned. that s all for tonight. follow me on facebook, instagram and twitter.