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Transcripts for MSNBC Yasmin Vossoughian Reports 20240604 18:30:00

That is trying to separate themselves from the former president s case stand to help them at all? it may. because there are two defendants thus far in the georgia case, who have filed a motion for a speedy trial. kenneth chesebro, and sidney powell. so far the judges granted that with respect to cheeseborough. i suspect that the judge will also grant the motion to sydney powell and probably together in the october trial date that the judge has now set. there is a certain advantage, because what they will do, lindsey, i ve been involved in codefendant cases were some codefendants go first, and then some codefendants go second, they will undoubtedly point the finger at the chair. they will say, you know, however bad it may look for us, it was really donald trump driving the train. sydney powell may argue that it was really rudy giuliani who was driving the train, do not hold us accountable. hold the more culpable player is accountable, because they will be tried in the future. i ve seen that tactic,

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 01:32:00

The group of trump supporters who the day after the january 6th attack on our capital, allegedly broke into voting machines in coffee county, looking for what they thought would be smoking gun evidence of voter fraud. but for a couple of reasons, that whole plot has always felt a little goofy to anyone who actually looks at it in closer detail. number one, trump actually won coffee county by nearly 70% of the vote. number two, they did all of their alleged to election equipment breaching literally in front of a security camera. it wasn t exactly the most effective break-in in american history. so why does this matter? well, fulton county d.a., fani willis, lays all of that out in her indictment. first off, the tech company that this group used to scan these voting machines was hired by trump lawyer, sidney powell. she was allegedly instrumental in orchestrating this plot. second off, just days before they allegedly breached the

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 01:10:00

They weren t advancing any interest of the united states. they were only advancing interest of donald trump as a candidate. so i think for the same reasons that mark meadows is going to have an uphill climb, i think these fake electors are going to have the same uphill climb. now, they could be that some of them prevail, we see a split. some of the defendants are tried in federal court, others are tried in state court. but for ease of efficiency, it may be that a bulk of them go to federal court, then they will. although i still think it s an uphill battle. especially in light of the fact that the defendant, mark meadows here, had the burden of persuading the judge that this case belongs in federal court. joyce, putting issues of removal to federal court aside for a moment, trump has indicated that he wants to sever his case from the other 18 codefendants. perhaps we will see that just as a result of what melissa was saying about the speedy trial motions from people like kenneth chesebro, and sidney powell. do you see him succeeding with

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Transcripts for CNN The Source With Kaitlan Collins 20240604 01:13:00

This is, for example, things she was saying around the election. this is an elite strike force team that is working on behalf of the president and the campaign to make sure that our constitution is protected. we are a nation of rules, not a nation of rulers. there is not someone that just gets to pick who the next president is outside the will of the american people. the elite strike force is rudy giuliani, indicted, and sidney powell, the people who are standing around her. is that someone we could see turn on trump theoretically in a case like this? i don t see any reason why not. this is how these big cases often go. everyone starts out strong, determined that they re going to stand strong. and as time goes on, as costs go on, as they feel the pressure and the prospect of actual prison time becomes more and more real, people start to break. and i think here frankly it s happening quite fast. we just got an indictment here and you see the defendants

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Transcripts for CNN The Source With Kaitlan Collins 20240604 05:14:00

She was one of the biggest pushers of trump s election lies. this is, for example, things she was saying around the election. this is an elite strikeforce team that is working on behalf of the president and the campaign to make sure that our constitution is protected. we are a nation of rules. now the nation of rulers. there is not someone that just gets to pick who the next president is, outside of the will of the american people. i mean, i should note, the elite strikeforce is rudy giuliani, indicted, and sidney powell, the people standing around her. is that someone we could see turn on trump, theoretically, in a case like this? i don t see any reason why not. this is how these big cases often go. everyone starts out strong, determined, that they are going to stand strong. and as time goes on, as costco on, as they feel the pressure in the prospect of actual prison time becomes more and more real, people start to break. and i think here, frankly, it s happening quite fast. we just don t and and i ve been here, and you see the

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