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Easy part. passing a bunch of messaging bills is also an easy part. >> very easy, yeah. >> and yet, he struggled with both of those things. now, he does have a narrow majority, that sorted speaker pelosi the last time around. if mccarthy delivers this, it will take the biggest headache of his, you know, played for the next year and a half, and it sets up the appropriations process, chris. tees it up for that september 30th deadline. they know what they will be spending this year and next year, and everything after that resets. yes, their targets after 2025 responding, they are nonbinding. the ...

Who's a very centrist member of the congress, she's not, like, waving a flag of victory around this deal. basically, it goes like this. there is a divided government, right? spending an appropriations, constitutionally originates in the house. it's going to have to be. whatever the government spends this year is going to have to be the product of some sort of compromise between the republican-controlled house and democratic-controlled senate, and a white house. that's just the case and this is basically about what you would expect from that kind of divided government. >> that's a reasonable ar...

Hostage, meaning the american people and our economy, in order to get extreme physical restrictions that are not part of this negotiation but part of an appropriations process, which isjust ludicrous. i'm relieved that president biden was able to talk some reason into kevin mccarthy. kevin mccarthy saw the politics of this. and this is turning in a direction where he was going to be looking very much like the one who was going to take the american economy, especially with his members speaking the weight they did. and don't be surprised if they speak that way next week any vote on the house flo...

Waste of time. kevin mccarthy created a dynamic that was unnecessary, a false — a false crisis. a debt ceiling is about paying past bills. the idea that somehow, as one of his members said earlier in the week, that they were going to shoot the hostage, meaning the american people and our economy, in order to get extreme fiscal restrictions that are not part of this negotiation but part of an appropriations process, is just ludicrous. i'm relieved. i'm gladl that president biden was able to talk some reason to kevin mccarthy. kevin mccarthy saw the politics of this. and this is turning in a d...

We go through an appropriations process. we argue, that is where the majority in the house and the senate get to figure out -- >> legislate. >> legislate, right. and at the end of that process, we pass it through a budget, pass appropriations bills. and the debt ceiling is essentially about implementing what congress has a already passed. >> it's paying for money already spent. >> and to somehow use that -- >> that's right. and i think at the end of the day, this is going to make it easier, hopefully, to take the debt ceiling off the table permanently. you know, brendan boyle, our ranking memb...