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Simply bury it in the appropriations process. i don't think they can get away with that this time. paul: kim, it seems to me that the administration could do something like cut a deal with mccarthy, you know, take two or three of his reforms and then they agree and then mccarthy has to sell it back to his members. so put the onus back on him to have to deliver his members. but give him something he can go back and sell. >> well, that would be the smart political move, or paul, not just from the politics as you mentioned, but also i think it would look good for biden because this is very popula...

Clear from the get go. he put out a wholesome budget in mid-march and mccarthy said that was his first agenda item when he came into power was to put out a budget and they just did pass their vision for how to deal with the debt ceiling, but the president really wants to separate the two issues and it's money that's appropriated and been spent in paying the bills that federal government has. the president says we are not a deadbeat nation. we need to pay the bills that we've incurred and the right time to have a conversation about the future spending is the appropriations process -- >> on that...

Jobs, they're not going to be able to get their social security payments, small businesses are not going to be able to get loans, childcare is not going to be available, because childcare workers are not going to get paid. so my constituents are saying to me, what's wrong with these republicans, because this is going to affect their own constituents. and like you said in your opening simone, it's important that people understand. this is not the time to negotiate a budget. we have a time to negotiate a budget. that comes with the appropriations process. this is about stuff that we already agre...

Reputation is on the line. the world economy is at stake. we have to pay our bills. that is what we do here in congress, and what republicans are trying to do is putting forward a plan that is cruel, extreme and unworkable that would hold the american people hostage. it would create millions of lost jobs it would create, you know, millions of dollars of lost pensions. it would cut some of the basic safety net services that americans depend on. and so i think, um, we have to just be clear. that if you want to have a discussion about the budget, then we should have a discussion about the budget ...

Congress is set to blow past its April 15 target date for a joint budget resolution, which has been the rule rather than the exception.