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We get this transcript and again, they are crowing a couple of days ago, about how this proves that joe biden is guilty. and then there's the informant who of course was a fugitive. and an arms dealer, was smuggling oil illegally to the chinese. it goes on, and, on and on. >> we don't hear much about that star witness anymore. we have congressman gold on a couple of days ago, and they asked them if they track them down. and he said, no he still enough fugitives. still an alleged fugitive to the chinese government, still an alleged arms trafficker. but he's been pushed to the side. we also, joe...

Foreign policy experts warn the release of Viktor Bout could incentive future kidnappings of Americans.

Support. this is a happy day for me and my family. i'm going to smile right now. >> a big smile from cherelle griner. first, let's bring in kylie atwood, and phil mattingly. kylie, from all of the reporting we've gathered, these negotiations just wrapped up in the last 48 hours. walk us through what happened. >> that's exactly right. this has been months in the work. you'll remember that cnn reported over the summer, the united states, the biden administration put an offer on the table for both paul whelan and brittney griner, as part of that trading viktor bout, this convicted arms trafficker...

Viktor bout who is a convicted arms trafficker serving a 25-year prison sentence here in the united states for brittney griner and i want you to listen to what david whelan who is paul whelan, the other american who is still detained in russia said earlier on cnn this morning, really expressing his concern about how the united states will now be able to get his brother home. >> someone from the white house let us know which was very kind. it's hard to process this in realtime which is what we had to do last april when paul was left behind before and trevor reed came home and it's a great day f...

Morning and briefing reporters said this is the only deal that russia was willing to make at this point. and it is clear that russia is treating paul whelan who is charged with espionage, which are charges that he vehemently denies, differently than brittney griner and that is of major concern for paul whelan's family. of course, they so graciously welcomed the fact that brittney griner was released today, saying that was the right move for the biden administration. but also raising questions as to how paul whelan is going to get home because they don't know what the u.s. could put on the tabl...