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Like these, that will be a game changer. that's how this war really ends more abruptly than if russia were to achieve some limited gains. if russia were to achieve limited gains, then you can see a protracted war. i don't think we have to get there. >> it sounds like what you're saying, to what extent can the west spend ukraine to victory and i'm not just talking about money but talking about resources. >> that's exactly right, john. what we have this $33 billion back package on top of 15 or larger package, that's about $45 billion from the u.s. side. if you include what the europeans are prov...

The question then becomes for joe biden and joe manchin is what can they take? what's possible to scale back and get into a smaller package. i would say the days of a $1.7 trillion massive package are probably over. maybe $1.7 trillion but have to narrow. i understand what's said in the op-ed in "the washington post" that manchin cannot deter the build back better act but he can and he has. he is the only person that matters and progressives will have a question. can they accept the scaled back package or nothing? doesn't matter whether one thing that joe manchin should have this power. he doe...

The child tax credit would be suggest to means testing and only extended to one year and then the funding for home care would be reduced by $150 billion. but there's still a lot in the bill. so give us the status report of what's in it and where it stands. >> this is all part of the decisions democrats have to make when it comes to what is going to be included in a scaled back package. now they're talking about a number closer to $2 trillion and just a little below that. that is a major cut and that's what democrats are really grappling with right now and that is what the president laid out in...