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Said it's about deterring families from coming. that is in this document. it lays it out clearly but when kirsten nielsen was asked, she said -- i'm not sure. i'm embarrassed or that's ridiculous or she -- it basically disclaimed it completely. >> there is another way they are caught here, and i think this is important and we'll talk about things they consider. you were in the tent camp that was quickly expanded under sort of dubious regulatory oversight to put a ton, thousands of migrant children, minors in it. one of the things you told me on this program is the head of that said this place ...

Things they consider. you were in the tent camp that was quickly expanded under sort of dubious regulatory oversight to put a ton, thousands of migrant children, minors in it. one of the things you told me on this program is the head of that said this place can be cleared in a few days if they would get rid of the backlog of sponsors that want to take these kids, and that ended up happening, but the backlog at the time was caused by a background check process for the sponsors that the d.h.s. said was for security and safety, right? is reading from the report for julie ainsley, h.h.s. said for ...

People. no supreme court justice should have ever done that. >> perjury obviously is a fairly high legal bar. it's hard to prosecute for obvious reasons. but it seemed fairly clear he was, at the very least, and most charitably misleading -- >> he was specifically doing it on terms that related to sex and terms that related to inebriation. and he's being accused of drunken sexual assault. so he was lying for very specific reasons, which was to protect himself. and if there's one job in the united states we don't want somebody to mislead or lie or evade on the facts that would be a justice on t...

Much in high school and college, not been a problem since and there's been no record to indicate. but walk me through the background check system, you know, they kept saying he'd been through six of these. how specific, when it comes to questions about alcohol and questions about heavy drinking, does it get -- is it possible he was worried about looking like he was contradicting a previous background check, which, of course, would have led to lying to the fbi? >> well, i don't want to speculate about motives and i don't want to speculate about facts not in evidence, and i want to be clear that...

Second lie. he made one extended lie under oath in front of the american people. no supreme court justice should have ever done that. >> perjury obviously is a fairly high legal bar. it's hard to prosecute for obvious reasons. but it seemed fairly clear he was, at the very least, and most charitably misleading -- >> he was specifically doing it on terms that related to sex and terms that related to inebriation. and he's being accused of drunken sexual assault. so he was lying for very specific reasons, which was to protect himself. and if there's one job in the united states we don't want some...