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Ultimately as someone said to me, tom delay, i asked a veteran member, delay wouldn't get the votes. >> two things would be, one, the difference is between the squad and nancy pelosi was you might be not progressive enough. nancy pelosi was very progressive. so they were dealing with a leader who had the same goals and they had policy priorities. they had sort of real differences on things they could talk about. where you have this 20 members of the republican caucus, you're not even sure what they really want. it's not policy based or they want to see things be more conservative. they have a ...

Having sifted the most illuminating quotes by public figures in 2022 from the billows of hot air that were expelled, PAUL DONNELLEY asks, who said what?

Chuck schumer emoted. he is from new york or as he likes to say brooklyn, so that is -- but we normally see nancy pelosi, the speaker, very buttoned up. you don't normally see that side of her. i don't know whether it was the chinese food or whether it's moving on from being speaker. but i thought it was most fascinating to see actually how well they get along, the fact that they speak four times a day and they talked about i think we'll see it, i asked if they play good cop bad cop with trump. and want to show the next piece. >> let's listen. it is interesting. your point about pelosi is much...

That there were other people who could effectively be the speaker. we thought kevin mccarthy was one of those people at the time, it turned out that wasn't the case. but we knew paul ryan was a candidate, and believe it or not, this doesn't get a lot of attention. trey -- votes to be speaker as well if he chose to run. i'm not sure if there's anybody else in the house who could get the votes. keep in mind, right now, with the slim margin, let's say it's a five vote margin, any group of six house members could prevent kevin mccarthy from being speaker. by the same token, kevin mccarthy and five...

BIRMINGHAM, Alabama – Long-time Democratic political consultant James Carville says some wild things could be coming over the next two years in American politics. | Politics