tonight, as the u.s. nears the 100,000 mark in lives lost, the flash points. the images of the giant crowds. the questions. and are some americans putting each other at risk? and the other developing story as we come on tonight. the death of an unarmed black man, under arrest, telling the officer, i can t breathe. the growing outrage tonight over the deeply disturbing death of a black man arrested and handcuffed by police in minneapolis. the officer seen with his knee on the man s neck. and the man can be heard pleading on that video, i can t breathe. the video playing out for nearly ten minutes. bystanders demanding police check his pulse. authorities say he died a short time later. tonight, four officers fired. and what the mayor is now saying about the officer. meantime, as america approaches that chilling milestone, the unsettling images. packed beaches and parks. huge crowds at parties. no sorocial distancing. hundreds from one of those parties already told to self-quarantine for 14 days. tonight, at least 14 states reporting a rise in cases of coronavirus, as new york city tonight marks a turning point. the war of words breaking out late today between president trump and joe biden. trump taking aim at biden for wearing a mask with his wife as they marked memorial day. tonight, biden just now responding, saying the president is, quote, an absolute fool to talk that way. the horror unfolding inside brazil. and a new white house travel ban on brazil going into effect just hours from now. the images tonight of mass graves. hospitals overwhelmed. back in this country, the urgent manhunt across state lines in the northeast. the student considered armed and dangerous, wanted for the murders of two people, allegedly kidnapping another. the woman who tells an african-american man in central park she is calling police on him after he tells her to put her dog on a leash. tonight, her words in that video and the swift action now. and diane sawyer is here tonight. 12 weeks of reporting. our new realy. how did we america get here? and the remarkable story tonight of what caretakers were willing to do to save lives, and it worked. good evening. i hope you had a safe and happy memorial day weekend with family and loved ones. we have a lot to get to tonight. the u.s. nearing that difficult milestone with coronavirus. but we re going to begin this evening with tension building in minneapolis after an unarmed black man died after being arrested and pinned to the ground by an officer. he can be heard saying i can t breathe on the video. tonight, four police officers have been fired. a witness recording the horrific incident. the handcuffed man on the ground, an officer s knee on his neck. the man can be heard repeating over and over, he could not breathe. the video lasting about ten minutes. he was unresponsive when an ambulance arrived. tonight, members of the community have begun to gather at a makeshift memorial. protesters now gathering. the mayor outraged, saying the officer failed in the most basic human sense. alex perez has the story, and we warn you, the video is very difficult to watch. please. please, i can t breathe. please, man. please, somebody help me. reporter: tonight, the black man in this horrifying video on the ground and in handcuffs is dead. the white officer with his knee on his neck along with three other officers all fired. and the fbi is investigating. he s not resisting arrest or nothing. reporter: the roughly ten-minute video begins after police have the man identified by a lawyer for family members as george floyd, on the ground monday night. police say floyd was unarmed, suspected of trying to pass a forged check at a convenience store. and also appeared to be under the influence of alcohol or drugs. his nose is bleeding. he s about to pass out. reporter: about five minutes into the video floyd appears to lose consciousness. bystanders urging police to check his pulse. let me see a pulse. reporter: but the officer does not get up. more than seven minutes into the video emts arrive on the scene and check his pulse, the officer s knee still on floyd s neck. floyd had worked as a security guard at a minneapolis restaurant for more than five years. police say he died at a nearby hospital. the statement last night said he resisted officers. they handcuffed him and noted he appeared to be suffering medical distress. being black in america should not be a death sentence. this officer failed in the most basic human sense. i can t breathe. reporter: those words, i can t breathe, reminiscent of the eric garner case. i can t breathe. reporter: in 2014 he said those same words. he died after a controversial arrest in new york city that set off nationwide protests. because we have the video, we know the truth. we can see with our own eyes what happened. let s get to alex in minneapolis tonight. we know the fbi is now investigating. we can see the crowd gathering behind you. and you ve learned the officers were wearing body cameras? reporter: david, first i wanted to show you the crowd behind me. massive turnout for the protest here tonight. yes, the officers were wearing body cameras. federal investigators are working to determine if they violated floyd s rights, and whether they should face federal charges. alex, thank you. and that awful scene playing out against the backdrop of this pandemic. crowds outside in many parts of the country over the weekend. many americans eager to get outside and see people again. but there are images that troubled many. leading to the questions, how close is too close? are some americans putting people at risk? and the american lives lost, now nearly 99,000. the boardwalk in ocean city, maryland. crowded pool parties in the lake of the ozarks. health officials have asked hundreds to self-quarantine for 14 days. it is a reopening that comes with risks, we all know that. and turning points as well, as we witnessed in new york city today. here again, tom llamas. reporter: today, for the first time in months, wall street opened to the new normal. lines for temperature checks to get on the floor of the new york stock exchange. the governor ringing the bell and reopening the floor. traders wearing masks and socially distanced. the market today surging despite that grim milestone looming. nearly 100,000 american lives lost to the virus. the president insisting the toll could have been much higher. if we didn t act quickly and smartly, we would ve had, in my opinion and in the opinion of others, anywhere from 10 to 20 and maybe even 25 times the number of deaths. reporter: but tonight renewed concern after scenes like these over the weekend. social distancing is absolutely critical. and if you can t social distance and you re outside, you must wear a mask. reporter: from beaches to pool parties like this one in houston. to this crowded bar in arizona. many americans close together and many without masks. if you re worried about it, stay home. if you don t want to catch it, stay home. reporter: after back to back pool parties at missouri s lake of the ozarks, health officials urging anyone there to self-quarantine for 14 days. it seems like the younger generation doesn t have any fear here. reporter: tonight, cases of the virus still rising across 14 states, including in alabama. the mayor of montgomery telling our marcus moore they re low on icu beds. is it too soon to open alabama and this city? absolutely. i think it s too soon. we have to make sure that we are being guided by the data and not the dollars. reporter: but tonight, signs of progress in new york state. in the suburb of new rochelle, where we saw the first containment zone after a cluster of cases, today, a slow reopening. kamesha salmon opening her store for the first time in nearly two months. i understand the pandemic, but you also have to understand i have two children. they got to eat. we still have bills, and nothing changed. tom, i know you were in new rochelle tonight. things are starting to open up, and some positive signs. but restrictions in new york city still in place. reporter: that s right, david. and no date has been set to reopen, that has frustrated some new yorkers. but the governor and mayor have both said it s still not safe to reopen new york city. it will likely reopen in phases during the first two weeks of june. but an exact date has not been set. there is still major concern about minority communities in the city. tom, thank you. amid all of words erupting between president trump and joe biden. president trump taking aim at biden for wearing a mask on memorial day. biden responding, saying the president is an absolute fool to talk that way. here s mary bruce. reporter: tonight, two images reflect the split screen this campaign has become. president trump in a factory without a mask, surrounded by people who are all wearing them. and his rival joe biden, out for the first time publicly since march. his own face, covered. he was standing outside with his wife, perfect conditions. perfect weather. they are inside, they don t wear masks and so i thought it was very unusual that he had one on. reporter: biden tonight firing right back. he s a fool. an absolute fool to talk that way. i mean, every leading doc in the world is saying we should wear a mask when you re in a crowd. this macho stuff for a guy, well, i shouldn t get going. but it just has cost people s lives. do you think wearing a mask projects strength or weakness? leadership. what it projects is leadership. reporter: the two candidates in stark contrast. president trump pushing to reopen, and is now threatening to rip the republican convention away from north carolina unless the state will allow a packed house. but today governor roy cooper, unmoved. i will say that it s okay for political conventions to be political. but pandemic response cannot be. reporter: the president is blaming the governor, not the virus, for why the convention might not go on as planned. we have a governor who doesn t want to open up the state. reporter: but the governor says his decision will be guided by health and safety concerns. noting that other large organizations like nascar have put together a plan to reopen safely and now it s the rnc s turn. and now the republican governors of florida and georgia are raising their hands to host the convention instead. while democrats are taking the opposite approach. they re already planning to massively scale back their convention. possibly holding much of it virtually. mary, thank you. we will turn next to the horror unfolding in brazil. second only to the u.s. in number of cases. hospitals there overwhelmed. they re digging mass graves. the white house with a travel ban that begins just hours from now. ian pannell tonight. reporter: tonight, the countdown to a midnight ban as travelers in brazil scramble. the country is the world s new hot spot, second only to the u.s. in confirmewhe house now p through the travel ban two days ahead of schedule, though u.s. citizens are exempt. more than 23,000 have now died in brazil from covid-19. the daily death rate exceeding that of the u.s. for the first time as hospitals become overwhelmed. and across the country, mass graves are dug to handle the surge. president bolsonaro, who called covid-19 a little flu, still defying social distancing and, at times, not wearing a mask just feet away from supporters. and here in mexico, cases also steadily rise with more than 71,000 confirmed cases and more than 7,600 deaths. but a new study of the data by a civic watchdog group claims that the number of deaths could be much higher. all of this as health professionals on both sides of the border are increasingly concerned over new plans to open up popular tourism sites in mexico like cancun next week. just turning back to brazil, have a look at this video of president bolsonaro amid the crowd of supporters and hugging a small child. accused of flouting social distancing rules, attending rallies as brazilians are dying in unprecedented numbers. david? ian, thank you. and back here at home tonight, there is a desperate manhunt under way for a college senior suspected in two murders. police tracking him from connecticut to new jersey, now to pennsylvania. releasing new images tonight. erielle reshef is in pennsylvania. reporter: tonight, the urgent multistate manhunt intensifying for suspected killer peter mandfredonia. the fbi and local law enforcement combing monroe county, pennsylvania, after the university of connecticut senior was last spotted walking near train tracks in east strousburg. police now say he got to those tracks by taking an uber to a nearby walmart. a 2012 hyundai santa fe stolen from the area. peter has struggled with mental health issues over the past several years. reporter: the 23-year-old a fugitive since friday when police say he brutally assaulted two men in willington, connecticut, killing 62-year-old ted demers. sunday morning, manfredonia allegedly breaking into a home in willington, stealing food, firearms, and a truck. and nearby, authorities discovering the suspect s childhood acquaintance nick eisle dead. i heard a loud bang. i heard a girl scream. and then i heard two people kind of arguing. reporter: manfredonia allegedly abducting an unidentified person from that home. the victim later found unharmed in new jersey near the pennsylvania border. peter, i want you to know we re continuing our investigation. the one thing we are missing right now is you. reporter: the fbi saying they want this to end peacefully. in the meantime, they say if you see the suspect, do not approach him and call 911 immediately. david? erielle, thank you. we turn next to diane sawyer and her new reporting on our new reality. diane has been reporting for 2 1/2 months, witnessing new yorkers cheering for health care workers, reporting on how this virus has changed america. we ve seen the terrible toll on nursing homes, accounting for a third of u.s. deaths. tonight, diane reports on a group of caregivers in ohio and what they did to protect their adopted family, and it worked. reporter: i ve covered over the decades so many challenges and seen how we transform them into strength. a group of dedicated ohio caregivers saying good-bye to their own families, not sure when they would see them again. i ve converted my office into my bedroom. reporter: these administrators, nurses, aides at two assisted living facilities, sharonbrooke and chapel grove, decided if the enemy was heading to their doors, they d go inside, lock that door, and fight to keep it out. we knew that once it reached our facility, it would be too late. reporter: the weeks go by. in private, these workers admit it s not easy. my son is a senior this year so he s not only missing his mom at home, he s missing prom and possibly graduation. reporter: they make sure the residents see only smiling faces. after all, these lives were in their hands. people who had been architects, accountants, paramedics, people once so vital and so young. over these months, birthdays were celebrated, even a high school graduation for an aide. and then last week, after 65 days, these caregivers finally began to go home, knowing that not one of the 200 residents got covid. now there will be new protective testing for any caregiver who goes in and out. but what they did, in this moment, is going to last gn app facilities saying it all. heroes work here. love lives here. 65 days they moved in with their extended family. just an incredible effort in ohio. and this is just part of an incredible body of work. 12 weeks of reporting. diane with her report at 9:00 p.m. eastern, right here. thank you, diane. when we come back, the moment in central park going viral. the woman, what she tells an african-american man after he tells her to put her dog on a leash. her words in the video, and what has now happened to her, in a moment. people are surprising themselves the moment they realize they can du more with less asthma. thanks to dupixent, the add-on treatment for specific types of moderate-to-severe asthma. dupixent isn t for sudden breathing problems. it can improve lung function for better breathing in as little as 2 weeks and help prevent severe asthma attacks. it s not a steroid but can help reduce or eliminate oral steroids. don t use if allergic to dupixent. serious allergic reactions can occur, including anaphylaxis, which is severe. tell your doctor right away about signs of inflamed blood vessels, such as rash, shortness of breath, chest pain, tingling or numbness in your limbs. tell your doctor if you have a parasitic infection and before stopping any asthma medicines, including oral steroids. du more with less asthma. talk to your doctor about dupixent. to give you the protein you need with less of the sugar you don t. 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kind of right up in their faces. she was arrested a few minutes ago and taken away in handcuffs. what you want to see is folks keeping their distance and standing, facing the police, that is great. you don t want to see anyone go up to them on purpose to provoke action. police have ben really stoic in not reacting to whatever things are being said at them. if things are being thrown and we ve seen some of that going onme onment. i don t know if we decided what that was, but it was basically to say keep away, a little poof something, protecting the perimeter or the no man s land between the police and the protesters. we haven t gotten confirmation on exactly what it is, but we can understand your tactic and philosophy and approach, which is to say, hey, keep your distance, don t come any closer. we re good with you being there exercising your first amendment rights. you can say what you want, but don t throw things at us or come up to our faces and threaten us. even with this escalated tension in the last 30 minutes or so play out, you know, compared to what we ve seen around the country, we hope this will be able to take a turn towards tamping down tensions and knno hostility between the two. there was one person who had a scuffle with an officer and was arrested. dan noyes is in downtown san jose. dan, what have you been seeing and hearing? i m at the corner of seventh and santa clara streets. there s standoffs happening right now. police have come on the intercom to say that they have declared this an unlawful assembly. there s a standoff here. the crowd, 150 people, are not bundle. they aren t going anyplace. now, the police officers fired a couple of rubber bullets, i believe, in response to some people throwing things at them. i heard the shot of what looked like a riot gun. they might have fired a rubber bullet. i m looking at it right now. i m not definite, but that s what i assume it was. they warned, they tested a low-frequency audio device, which is basically crowd control. if it gets too crazy, too tense, they ll actually fire off this audio device and it really does incapacitate can you make out what people are saying, dan? as you re hearing now, they re ordering people to disperse. they re ordering people to disperse. as i was saying, that audio device will send out a signal that makes it just painful to stay in the area. they have tested that device and people are, of course, getting concerned. but overall, you know, this is by no way it is oh, i see what looks like a scuffle over there. looks like police a are responding to someone. there we go. there s tear gas going on. and some rubber bullets fired. i see the projectiles going into the crowd. i m turning away my eyes so i wouldn t be hit. i mean, i ve done stories on those projectiles, and they can blind you if they hit you in the eye. they are plastic projectiles, but they re full of metal pellets, so they do hurt. the crowd is going back. there are some okay. there are some people who are staying. and they are standing up to the police. as the standoff goes on a woman just told me it was a peaceful protest until the police showed up. the police are trying to take some control. these protesters blocked this intersection, took it over. and there s a standoff right now. as i said, the police did fire projectiles into the crowd. they did fire off some tear gas. but this was quite windy out here, so the tear gas quickly dispersed. i actually see someone who has the unless that s something else. anyway, the people are not backing down. some of the crowd is coming back towards the police officers. this is not a good scene. no. the police have shown their force. they told the protesters to leave. more police look like they re moving in. dan, keep us updated there and stay safe, obviously. this is what we re worried about as things escalated today, as tensions rise. most of the protesters have been peaceful, but some have seemed to agitate the police or at least try to provoke the police. now police seem to be responding. dan, what are you seeing now? the police are giving another warning. they are repeating this is an unlawful assembly. you have to disperse. they re holding their signs, some are cursing back at the police officers. kind of an ebb and flow. the police will have their show of force, the protesters leave. the show of force stops it is protesters come back. so it is a very tense situation right now. dan, is there the sense that it s building towards something? because we saw a line of police on the move in usefulnenison. and then we saw a huge collection of police motorcycles suddenly arriving at the same scene. what do you think? is it building towards one area? is it just what we re seeing here is where it s all happening in terms of this confrontation? oh. sorry. what is that? what happened here was that someone someone threw a bottle at the police officers. and they responded with those that riot gun, that gun that shots t shoots the projectiles. you always have some cover, so i m positioned behind a tree that i can look out, see what s happening, and then if there s something kicking off, i can take my cover. very smart. the police are moving now. they are pushing forward. the police are pushing forward. you have some officers on motorcycles. you have other officers in riot gear. they re doing their best to try to t thi intersection. looks like they re about to clear that intersection, seventh and santa clara street. dan, where are they pushing people towards? can you tell? is there a direction? where are they heading? they are heading west on santa clara street. looks like they just they are firing into the crowd again and again. i can see the projectiles flying through the air and hitting the protesters. they are keeping the shots at base level. that s really important because, as i said, you can take out an eye easily with those projectiles. loks like what they wanted to do was to retake that intersection. they were not going to give up thatn. intersectio r now they are pushing the st. seventh street and sixth street. moving down the block. dan, are you on the move again walking behind the police now? where are you exactly? well, i m right at the line with the police officers. okay. i am with the i am just to the side of the protesters. i m trying to keep my distance. we re right at horace mann elementary school right now. the officers saying again and again that this is an unlawful assembly and you have to disperse. they are pushing their way down santa clara street to get these people to disperse. but i tell you, dan, i m looking down the street and it looks like there are more people gathering. this is not dispersing. it s getting bigger. we re moving, but it s not dispersing. they re just pushing the group back and more people are gathering behind the police line, sounds like. exactly, exactly. dan, please do be careful. we know you have a lot of experience covering these types of situations, but it looks awfully tense and tre s so many things that could go wrong. so please, please do be careful. i appreciate that, kristen. i have had a lot of experience doing this. on the way here, i got to say that the people, protesters i met and talked to there s another rubber bullet. i ll bring back a souvenir for you. but the protesters i talked to were all perfectly fine with me many knew i was with channel 7. i don t fear any tension or aggression from protesters. but of course i m doing my best to stay out of the action. sure. again, a rubber bullet just theextnterctn sixth streety police officers would you say are in that immediate area versus the protesters? dan, did we lose you? all right, we may have lost dan noyes. dan literally is down there somewhere along that tree line right where the protesters and the police are meeting. police trying to push them down the street trying to get them to disperse, but as he has pointed out, they re really not dispersing. they re just being pushed farther down te street and more protesters are gathering, it seems to him, behind the police line. so police are effectively moving them, but not dispersing them. the point of confrontation is simply moving.but yohtthey re eo we seeerio thi as dan reported, pellet guns and tear gas. at the protesters. earlier, dan, it looked like they were sort of aiming in the empty spots away from people, but as this continues to escalate and officers are on the move, we have seen some pellet guns being fired at people, you know, at the foot level, knee level. which is designed to sort of sting, scare, and intimate. you don t want to get hit in the face with that. but no injure anybody. here we have a little bit more. when you see running, you really start to worry that the situation is deteriorating rapidly. we saw at least one protester who they can t into a scuffle with an officer who was eventually taken down. i hope we don t see a lot more of that situation. but as you said, the protesters are not backing down. there s another man now. flex cuffs being put on him. dan noyes is back on. dan, update us. we re watching a man being arrested. sorry about that, dan. i had to quickly move away. the police just surged in a pretty big way, firing rubber bullets and some tear gas as well. as i say, the tear gas disperses very quickly in the breeze that s out here. but they had a sudden burst where they charged the protesters. that seemed to work. it s definitely scattered them. the thing is, it s scattered them now to a wider area. people backed off the immediate face-off with the police officers, but then they have scattered to different streets along the way. i saw one young man who was hit with a rubber bullet in the leg. it hit him so hard that it took him down. he was in obvious pain. i asked him whether he was okay. i looked at the welt on his leg. that s exactly what i knew it to be. those rubber bullets, they call them projectiles of force, plastic covers with metal inside of them. they hurt. they sting, yeah. would you mind if i okay. i was just handed a projectile from a bystander here. these are not as heavy as some of them i ve felt. can i have this? okay, thank you. so i m hearing there are both projectiles here. here s a new theme, dan. this is something that s happening right now. people are taking a knee. probably 40 people right now taking a knee right in front of the officers. we don t have that shot yet on sky7. yes, now we see it. we ve got it. we see it. so the protesters have decided that tactic that s best is to take a knee and not move. the officers have formed up their line. they are just watching. i m just a couple of feet away from that very front line where you see the protesters. as you can hear probably, dan, they re shouting i can t breathe, i can t breathe. you have probably 30 people across the right in front of the officers. you have another 60 people also taking a knee shouting i can t breathe. which is, of course, a reference to george floyd, the man in minneapolis who died in police custody over the weekend. as you re hearing again, dan. the officers is sending out a warning again. this is an unlawful assembly. they are doing their best to take back this intersection. seems like they just want to keep on pushing the protesters further away to get them to disperse. and i got to say the protesters are resilient. there we go again. they re scattering, firing projectiles. some of the protesters have run away. others are keeping their locations. hey, dan. i m just wondering if you can educate me on the strategy of trying to take over an intersection and to push the protesters back. i m wondering if there is no aggressive action toward the line of officers, why the need to kind of push them back and retake an intersection, intersection by intersection. kristen, in my experience, it would seem that the officers are doing their best to get the crowd in general to disperse. if they can keep on pushing them back, i think they re thinking hopefully they ll be able to tire them out. the problem is, these protesters are resilient. they do move back when there s something firing, when there s tear gas, when there s a projectile. they move but they reform. right now you have that other standoff. but het goes. of just letting them be and stay there? oh. see, what happens is that someone will challenge the officers, get up into their face, and then the individual officer will respond, and the other officers will support him. that s exactly what happened here. there s a young man who i saw earlier who seemed to begh offe. forward to that young man. the other officers also joined in. and they ran just a little bit, chased the young man away. they didn t catch him, but they have now reformed again in that thick line of police with the people kneeling in front of them. so this is very much a standoff right now. you re listening to the chants are going on [ inaudible ] but this wind is really picking up dan, you re a bit garbled at the moment. let s give you a moment, see if the signal improves from your cell phone. try again, dan. i was just going to say [ inaudible ] the wind is right in the face of the officers. okay. the wind is picking up, he said. it s right in the face of the officers, and that the tear gas that they have used in a couple of occasions out there not particularly effective because it s blowing in the wind as dan described. dan is there right on the scene. he s literally almost in the frame from sky7 that you re looking at just to the side in a safe location. he describes he s done this a lot and he knows what to do. he s taking good care of himself but he s bringing us remarkable fir firsthand accounts from street level. his signal got garbled at the end. kristen, for two and a half hours plus roughly, we just saw very peaceful protests, inconvenient searched for people on 101 and streets on san jose who got held up in traffic. but for the last half hour it s turned with a smaller group of protesters. you see that incident where there was a scuffle on the left with police. one man was put to the ground and arrested. dan, i just want to mention that our senator, kamala harris, who, as you know, is mentioned as a potential vice presidential running mate for vice president biden, she has tweeted out a video message saying black blood stains the sidewalks of america. folks are in pain and have been for a long time. floyd should not be dead. and it is seemingly in agreement with her message that s bringing these protesters out here to san jose, the streets of san jose this evening. as you said, a protest that involves starting at city hall, going over to highway 101 and shutting down the freeway. a blockade of traffic eventually resolved when they made their point there and marched off the freeway, but now after a fairly long standoff with police, we are seeing clashes. we are seeing both sides, protesters throwing things, police taking action on them, whether it s arresting someone or here s on the left is video of the man throwing punching frantically with police and police wrestling him to the ground. moments later he was taken off in handcuffs. the picture on the right side of your screen is live. again, there s more direct confrontation with police. police have been trying to maintain kind of a neutral zone of 10 or 15 feet as much as possible, but that has continually broken down. now you see what looks like one protester pushing another back, maybe trying to talk them into, hey, be cool, stay back, you know. don t keep going toward police. obviously they re trying to keep this protester away, the guy in the light blue shirt who will have none of it. he s back in the face of an officer. , dan, you always hope that cooler heads will prevail because anytime you have a large group of protests other any issue, you have a mix. most people just out there to make a statement and be heard and exercise their first amendment, you know, freedom of speech rights. a lot of people just regular citizens. and then you have a few that get mixed in there that are more inclined to make trouble and kind of distract and detract from the main message that the peaceful protesters are trying to make. so we hope that it is the peaceful protesters who will pr prevail here with their message of solidarity for george floyd. some do deliberately try to antagonize the police and then accuse the police of responding. it s difficult on both sides. here you see, again, more intense interaction with protesters trying to hold back a protester, it looks like. if you notice, kristen, the police are slowly inching forward subtly here, just pushing them back slowly. even as this continues. try, as dan noyes who s on the ground there describes, trying to get them to disperse or at least take them out of certain interactions so they no longer control the interactions, the protesters, that is. but they re slowly pushing them, pushing them back inch by inch. but the protester are not, as dan pointed out on the scene, not backing down. when we get dan back, i d be curious to ask him what are some of the words that he had heard of that were hurled in both drerksz. directions. one of the things he talked about as the protesters took a knee a la colin kaepernick many years ago, they started shouting i can t breathe which is, of course, a direct reference to s he couldn t breathe. larry beil is watching this as well. larry? yeah. i just wanted to note the symbolism involved here with the colin kaepernick protest of several years ago. protesting exactly what we just saw a few days ago in minneapolis. there was a lot of confusion at this time because he initially sat down and then after talking with some friends in the military, decided taking a knee was the more appropriate act. and this is exactly the kind of situation that kaepernick was trying to bring into focus. and put a spotlighted on. so there s a great deal of symbolism with protesters now doing what kaep did. he p he s been very active on social media as well throughout the years but more so in the past few days trying to make the point once again that this is what i was protesting about. you can make the case that we have not made a lot of progress in the years that have passed. good point, larry. thank you. let s turn our attention now to mike lowe from the santa clara police department. mike, are you there? mike, can you hear us? yes, can you hear me? yes, mike. thanks for coming on. mike, as you watch what s transpiring, tell me what you re ragy is by san jose police as they trying to move these protesters around. actually, i m with the sheriff s office. my apologies. no worries. we got a call from highway patrol when the protesters were gathering on highway 101. so we mobilized our resources and have dispatched our deputies out on patrol to assist the san jose police department and the california highway patrol. so our main focus right now is just making sure everyone stays say we understand people are frustrated. we do want people to exercise their first amendment rights, but to do so peacefully. and ultimately we want everyone to be safe. based on what you ve seen, sergeant lowe, are the protesters in that very front line in that direct standoff with officers doing what you consider safe actio? i am not in a position right now to be right therefrt line ho do know that it s a very fluid and rappid situation. we have our deputies deployed to numerous locations across san jose permanent near t san jose, primarily near san jose. this is a difficult situation for police to keep order but at the same time allow people to express themselves and their anger and fruchgs ovstration ov happened in minneapolis. what is the challenge for the police officers on these lines to keep control and yet not escalate this situation? very difficult, is it not? very difficult, very challenging. and i think as law enforcement officers part of our job is to show that tremendous restraint who must these types of situations where things are very tense, very action packed right now with a lot of things going on. but we have to remain calm and do with a we can to just make sure everyone remains safe. we do have our crowd control unit mobilized what is the special training for crowd control unit. what is that unit surprised of? that s interesting. the unit is comprised of deputies, sergeants and staff within the sheriff s office. they train specifically to handle large crowds, whether it s at a ball game or sporting event or any sort of large event like this. but any time you have something like this, we want to make sure people stay safe and remain peaceful. i have one question about the motorcycles that we see. is that a modern-day, you know, for a long time crowd control, police departmts ud officers on horseback, because it s intimidating and well above the crowd. is this a modern-day version of that? we do have motor have motor. i m not sure if our sheriff s office are on steed right now. they re much easier to get around if they need to access an area where a vehicle or standard patrol car couldn t get to. our motorcycles are able to access a location much quicker. just a line right in front, behind the first line of police officers on foot. we re looking at a line of motorcycle officers right behind them. very interesting to see that tactic. sergeant low,e. i m wondering about your training. i m imagining it s similar to police on the front line. at what level do they respond. with rubber bullets. tell me about the actions and reactions that is deemed appropriate as you ve been taught? i think like any law enforcement agency, we have our use of force policies and use of force continuum. however, in times like this, i
tonight, new reporting on tonight, breaking news as we come on the air in the west. we have images as a man opens fire on a california police station. a deputy shot in the face. and new reporting at this hour on the former police officer, derek chauvin, charged in the murder of george floyd. prosecutors confirming chauvin was negotiating a guilty plea to local and federal charges, so, what changed? as george floyd s brother appears before congress today, his emotional plea, saying his brother did not deserve to die over $20. and what he said when asked if he believed his brother s killing was premeditated. also tonight, as we come on the air, the urgent manhunt for a gunman who open fird on a police station. a deputy wounded, shot in the face. a second person found shot to death nearby. investigators do believe the shootings are connected. residents ordered to shelter in place. and what authorities have just revealed tonight. after military leaders said the time has come to discuss changing names of u.s. military bases named after confederate leaders, tonight, president trump saying this will not happen, saying they are part of a great american heritage. and nascar late today revealing they are now banning the confederate flag. the coronavirus here in the u.s. alarming news tonight involving the spike in cases right now across more than 20 states. some hospitals told to enact emergency plans. and some authorities now talking about a potential for a stay at home order again. and the race for a vaccine tonight. tens of thousands of americans now volunteering to be injected with experimental vaccines. so, what could this mean about timing for a vaccine here in the u.s.? the voting chaos in georgia overnight. voters in lines well after sundown. some in line for six hours or more. what caused this and what does it mean with the presidential election just five months away? and there is breaking news tonight in the case of those two missing siblings. the discovery on that property and what their heartbroken grandparents are now saying. and we pay tribute tonight to a renowned debate coach, eight decades at texas southern university. tonight, right here, his students on what he would expect from them in this moment. good evening and it s great to have you with us here on a wednesday night. we are back from houston tonight, where thousands came from all over to pay their respects to george floyd, his family. remembering him as a gentle man, a loving father, an imperfect man, but saying his name will now stand for the push for change, for justice. and tonight, what we did not know about the officer with his knee to floyd s neck, charged with murder now. how close was he to a plea deal, and why did it fall apart? and on capitol hill today, one of george floyd s brothers telling lawmakers, enough is enough. pleading with them to stop the pain of police brutality. breaking down, asking, what was his brother s life worth? we have learned prosecutors and that former officer, derek chauvin, were closing in on a deal on state murder and federal civil rights charges until the day before his arrest. chauvin now faces up to 40 years behind bars if convicted on all charges. and tonight, as we come on the air, an urgent hunt now for a man who opened fire on a police station. a deputy wounded, shot in the face. another person found shot dead nearby. and we have it all covered for you. we re going to begin with abc s alex perez in minneapolis again tonight. reporter: tonight, the stunning revelation. as prosecutors mulled charges against fired minneapolis police officer derek chauvin, he was angling for a deal to plead guilty on federal civil rights charges and to murdering george floyd. as prosecutors were walking up to the podium on may 28th, the deal had just fallen apart. we thought we would have another development that i could tell you about. unfortunately, we don t at this point. reporter: chauvin charged with third degree murder the next day, upgraded to second degree the following week. mr. floyd, what do you hope to tell the committee today? justice for george. reporter: word of those negotiations coming as george floyd s brother emotionally testified before lawmakers on capitol hill. you don t do that to a human being. you don t even do that to an animal. his life mattered. all our lives matter. black lives matter. i just wish wish i could get him back. those officers, they get to live. for him to do something like that, it had to be premeditated and he wanted to do that. and intentional? yes, sir. reporter: and tonight, those chants on the streets turning into demands for reform. minneapolis police chief medaria arradondo, faced with the possibility his department could be disbanded, unveiling his own plans for change today, revealing the department will no longer negotiate their current contract with the police union and new, real-time technology to track cops accused of misconduct and intervene. chauvin had 18 complaints against him, but was only disciplined twice. under these new rules, what would have happened to someone like chauvin, who had all these complaints? we could have intervened much earlier. if there were problematic behaviors brought to our attention right away, we could have made those appropriate measures. reporter: back on capitol hill, george floyd s brother demanding more accountability for officers before anyone else is killed. george wasn t hurting anyone that day. he didn t deserve to die over $20. i m asking you, is that what a black man is worth? $20? this is 2020. enough is enough. powerful testimony. we hear the demonstrators behind you there in minneapolis tonight, alex. and we also know there s late word that one of the other officers who was charged in this case, thomas lane, we remember, he was on his fourth shift as an officer that night, a rookie, there s news on him this evening? reporter: well, david, according to jail records, former officer thomas lane was released from jail just a short time ago, late this afternoon. he posted $750,000 bail and has been released. you ll remember that s the officer who in court shifted blame towards the veteran officer on the scene that night, derek chauvin. now, as for the changes here at the minneapolis police department, the chief tells me, today was just the beginning. he expects to make several announcements in the weeks ahead. david? all right, alex perez leading us off again tonight. alex, thank you. and as i mentioned at the top tonight, there is an urgent hunt at this hour for a gunman who fired on a police station in paso robles, california, shooting a deputy in the face. and then, a body found a mile away, someone shot dead. authorities do believe it s related. that community put on lockdown. and abc s will carr is in california. reporter: tonight, police are on the hunt for an active shooter wanted for attacking a police station in california. shots northeast of the building. reporter: authorities say this is the shooter, with that long, curly hair and dark beard. we feel that this was an ambush, that he planned it. reporter: the gunfire erupted early this morning, around 3:15, in downtown paso robles. the pd is advising they can hear gunfire coming from the east side of their station. reporter: the gunman shot and wounded a sheriff s deputy in front of the station. taking gunfire. at the dmv! copy. taking gunfire on ninth street at the dmv. keeps shooting at us! gunfire is coming from a southerly direction north of the dmv. reporter: that deputy is in serious but stable condition. later, around 7:00 a.m., police discovered the body of a man near an amtrak station less than a mile away from the police department. the victim was shot in the head from close range and investigators believe this homicide is connected to the shooting this morning. within the past couple of minutes, authorities released a picture of the gunman. they say, without a doubt, he set out to kill police officers and this is the third time that members of law enforcement have been ambushed here in california in just the past couple of weeks. david? the scene playing out in paso robles, california, tonight. will, thank you. we have been reporting here on the growing pressure across this country from demonstrators and supporters to take down confederate symbols, and tonight, late word nascar is taking action, banning the confederate flag at all nascar events. driver bubba wallace wearing a t-shirt, saying, i can t breathe, black lives matter in recent days. u.s. military leaders have expressed a willingness to discuss renaming bases named after confederate generals. but tonight, president trump says that won t happen, saying they are part of a great american heritage. here s our chief white house correspondent jonathan karl. reporter: president trump today firmly shot down the idea of changing the names of military bases named after confederate generals, tweeting, quote, my administration will not even consider the renaming of these magnificent and fabled military installations. in case anybody missed his tweets, he dispatched his press secretary to read his words aloud. these monumental and very powerful bases have become part of a great american heritage and a history of winning, victory and freedom. reporter: it comes just after the army announced, the secretary of defense and the secretary of the army are open to a bipartisan discussion on the topic. around the country, signs of the confederacy are coming down. now nascar is announcing a ban on confederate flags at all events. tonight, racing star bubba wallace s car will bear the words black lives matter. there are ten u.s. army bases named after confederate soldiers. among those calling for that to change is retired general david petraeus, who wrote in the atlantic of the, quote, irony of training at bases named for those who took up arms against the united states and for the right to enslave others. he added, we do not live in a country to which braxton bragg, henry l. benning or robert e. lee can serve as an inspiration. acknowledging this fact is imperative. today, the president wouldn t answer questions on his decision. while the white house makes an impassioned defense of bases named for pro-slavery confederate soldiers, the president has yet to propose any specific reforms of police practices in the wake of george floyd s death. on capitol hill, republicans have tasked the only african-american republican senator to take the lead in coming up with a plan. we should all want to follow the lead as it relates, to, a, making sure we get something accomplished, and not just having pieces of legislation they are for show. reporter: the white house press secretary said today the president is working, quote, quietly and diligently, to come up with a plan to address the concerns of the protesters, but we have heard nothing specific. so far, all we have heard is what he opposes. we are told the president opposes the idea of limiting the immunity now enjoyed by most police officers. that s an idea that democrats and some republicans say would make it easier to hold the police accountable for their actions. david? jon karl live at the white house. jon, thank you. i want to get right to abc s martha raddatz tonight, because martha, the army had said the defense secretary was, in fact, open to discussing renaming military bases named after confederate generals, but you heard what the president said today, essentially saying this won t happen. so, where does it stand tonight? reporter: well, david, the decision is technically up to an assistant secretary of the army, but given what trump has said, that would likely be professional suicide. but as you know, it was just last week that secretary of defense mark esper spoke out publicly against the president s threat to use active duty military to quell protests and there has also been a growing chorus of retired military officers blasting trump s decision-making, so, you can t rule out the base names changing, but for now, that seems unlikely, david. all right, martha, our thanks to you, as well. now, the news this evening on the coronavirus. the number of cases spiking in several states across this country. and there s news tonight on a potential vaccine. tens of thousands of americans volunteering to get injected with potential vaccines on the horizon. so, what could this mean for any timeline for the rest of the country? here s matt gutman on that. reporter: tonight, the u.s. government saying tens of thousands of volunteers will soon receive injections with one of three of experimental vaccines. those injections are part of third phase of vaccine trials, the stage before possible approval. and dr. anthony fauci now saying there are no guarantees, but he s cautiously optimistic about at least one of them working. we could have a vaccine either by the end of this calendar year or in the first few months of 2021. reporter: moderna beginning phase three trials in july, followed by the university of oxford and astra-zeneca s vaccine in august and johnson & johnson in september. the goal, to test their vaccine s safety and effectiveness. that, as at least 20 states plus puerto rico seeing increases in new cases and eight states reporting rising hospitalizations. in texas, hospitalizations jumped 40% since memorial day. officials there say it s too early to tell if that s because of the reopening, the protests or both. and in arizona, some experts say it might be time for another stay at home order. one doctor telling us they re maxing out of icu beds. reporter: david, the goal of a phase three trial is to determine how well a vaccine works. that s why they re casting an enormously wide net, up to 90,000 volunteers from all walks of life. half of them will be given a placebo, the other half, the actual vaccine. and it will later be determined who came down with coronavirus and how many of them show the presence of antibodies. david? and we know you ll stay on this. matt gutman, our thanks to you again tonight, as well. we re also following that developing headline in the case of two missing siblings from idaho. their step-father was in court today facing charges now after human remains were found on his property. and what the children s heartbroken grandparents said late today. here s marcus moore. reporter: tonight, the grandparents of two idaho children, missing since september, say their bodies have been found. but police not confirming they are the remains of 17-year-old tylee ryan and her brother, 7-year-old j.j. vallow, discovered during a search at chad daybell s home, their mother s new husband. we are aware that those remains are the remains of children. reporter: daybell appearing today before a judge today via zoom, facing two felony counts of destruction, alteration or concealment of evidence. mr. daybell, do you understand the allegations on both counts that have been brought against you? i do. reporter: mom lori vallow already behind bars after refusing to tell police where the kids were. lori? can you tell me where your kids are? reporter: the couple under a cloud of suspicion for months after a string of deaths in the family. marrying in hawaii weeks after daybell s first wife died. vallow s husband killed last summer by her brother, who later died himself. friends and family insisting lori changed after meeting daybell, a religious author. after lori s arrest, daybell telling us the kids were safe. is there anything that you would like to say to people at all who are, number one, concerned about the kids or concerned about you and your wife, anything at all you want to say to them? just grateful for any support. reporter: tonight, j.j. and tylee s family saying, we are filled with unfathomable sadness that these two bright stars were stolen from us, and only hope that they died without pain or suffering. lori vallow has pleaded not guilty to child abandonment. meantime, she and her husband are both being held on $1 million bail and, david, daybell is due back in court in july. marcus, thank you. when we come back tonight, the voting chaos in georgia overnight. what does this mean with the presidential election five months away now? 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i think that dr. freeman, because he has always encouraged us to not only be articulate, but vocalize our plight in a way in which we can have the best outcome for ourselves. meaning that he s always pushed us to do our best. it s in our motto, we all know what we do, we do well, what we don t do well, we don t do it at all. reporter: the faces that you see, black, white, latino, from every race, every background, every story, part of these protests. do you sense it s a turning point? absolutely do. reporter: what s your message to the country right now? that there s always hope. that you can always be better. that you don t have to settle. i think the message would be, there s power in your voice. you should definitely use it. definitely. reporter: well, i would say to your debate team, keep winning. we ll try. thank you. keep winning. vowing to carry the torch. it s about more than winning, he would say, and they have already made dr. freeman proud. thank you for watching here tonight. i m david muir. from all of us here at abc news, have a good evening. good night. a silicon valley lab owner is under arrest. i ll explain. no one can say it won t happen again. it s just not possible. the man in charge of the alameda police department speaks only with abc7 news and our i-team. hear his take on the officers who arrested a black man for dancing in the streets. reporter: restaurants are reimagining opening. it s very upsetting and angering to see people like this individual taking advantage of what is happening in our community. new at 6:00, the first case by the u.s. department of justice related to securities fraud involves a silicon valley lab owner.
made missiles and the fleet s headquarters in sebastopol was struck by missiles last year, the repeated humiliations pushing russian ships further and further away from ukraine and eventually leading to the dismissal of russia s navy chief in march, not so long ago, russian state media would celebrate the navy s single aircraft carrier, the admiral, cuz nets off the jewel in the crown. but the ship has long been plagued by mechanical problems and has been in dark for years and more months, some western analysts predict it will never set sail again despite putin s glorification of russia s naval prowess, many of its warships here are vulnerable to both air and sea attacks and lack the technology to compete with western navies. or even cheap maritime drones made and ukraine an air in the ukrainian say that while the russians might be gaining ground in other areas, they feel that they ve really hurt. moscow is black sea fleet and essentially rendered it ineffective and the ukrainian say they will continue to develop those sea drones to hurt vladimir putin s naval forces even more. aaron. all right. thank you very much tonight and thanks so much to all all of you. it s time now for ac30, 60 tonight on through 60, the former president goes to washington to formalize his almost total takeover of the republican party. what he told lawmakers behind and closed doors when it signals about his plans, if we elect it. also time, cnn s donie o sullivan and talking with trump s supporters about what they think will happen to the country if he loses and to appeal its are prize-winning historian. but what she thinks might happen if you wins. also breaking news on supreme court justice clarence thomas already under scrutiny for setting millions of dollars in gifts and travel over the years. now, the senate judiciary committee reveals three more trips he took did not disclose. good evening. thanks for joining us. we begin tonight. keep them honest with the former president s de in washington with his party, and that use the possessive to describe the republican senators and house members he met with today in separate closed-door sessions, each just steps from the capital is no accident because if he s done nothing else over the last three-and-a-half years. of insurrection and search warrants and indictments and trials and felony convictions. it has been to remake the party of ronald reagan in his own image at the house meeting, he made a point of reminding members that nearly every republican who voted to impeach him as either been voted out of office or retired? not that by this point, there s survivors really needed reminding listen to speaker of the house mike johnson was basking in the afterglow and majority whip tom emmer, a self-proclaimed tough on crime law maker, attacking the criminal justice system he said very complimentary things about all of us we had sustained applause. he said, i m doing a very good job. i mean, we re grateful for that. i m going to add anybody who thought that this president was going to be down after the sham trial after that crooked trial that we saw in new york i think again more than more than one member of congress and the house meeting told cnn that the former president has spent most of his time airing grievances about his felony conviction. afterwards that a house judiciary committee hearing democratic members were all too happy to bring it up. just a show of hands for anyone in the room who hung out with a felon today hey, guys. i everyone get your hands up i want to begin by quoting the jury in the manhattan hush money payment trial guilty guilty guilty. guilty now, it s remarkable because whatever you think it congressional decorum or for that matter, x presidential criminality. this is where we are, but we are a convicted felon leads the self-proclaimed party of law and order in his post-conviction visit, just a few blocks away from the place that his supporters attacked into filed is just another headline. and so is what one lawmaker in the rooms, as he told house members about former democratic house speaker nancy pelosi, after calling one of his daughters a quote, wacko he reportedly claimed that one of her daughters wants told him that he and speaker pelosi would have had a quote, great romance in another life. daughter christine, today responded tweeting quote, speaking for all four pelosi daughters, this is ally he also called milwaukee side of the republican national convention, quote, horrible, according to a source in the room, another lawmaker later saying he was only talking about crime. all from a single meeting. at this other meeting, his republic republican senator is also close to the capital. he spoke with minority leader mitch mcconnell for the first time since december 2020. the photo prompting this reaction from liz cheney, the staunchly conservative former republican congresswoman, who was drummed out while first out of the party leadership and then out of office for co-chair and the january 6 committee she tweeted and quoted words mitch mcconnell made on the senate floor in february 13, 2021. cheney wrote, mitch mcconnell knows trump provoked the violent attack and our capital, and then quote watch television happily unquote as his mob brutally beat police officers and hunted the vice president he knows trump reviews for hours to tell his mob to leave and quote, even then with police officers bleeding, he kept repeating his election leinz and praising the criminals she went on to say again, quoting mcconnell, he knows that trump committed a quote disgraceful dereliction of duty unquote, and is a danger to our republic here are some more of what mcconnell said on that day there s no question nod. their president trump is practically and morally responsible for provoking the events of the day those are tough words for mitch mcconnell, but just 12 days later, after he said that on the 25th, senator mcconnell, eight, those words telling fox is brett baer, he would support the man he so recently criticized if he s nominated in 2024 talk, it seems is cheap. join his now with more cnn s meloni s and ohno. what else went on behind closed doors today with trump will anderson heading into these meetings, lawmakers are really hopeful that trump was going to be talking about a campaign strategy or laying out his vision for a policy agenda. and now there was some of that. one of the more substantive moments was on trump brought up the topic of abortion and any counseled republicans about how he thinks they should talk about this issue. and he said they shouldn t be afraid of it. they should frame it as a state s issue. and you also encouraged republicans to voice support for exceptions not come across as too extreme on the issue, but for the most part, according to all the lawmakers that i spoke to, these meetings were more of an airing of grievance it says it was a gripe session at particularly in the house meeting this morning, i m told that trump, of course, brought up the legal challenges against them, calling all the charges against him, quote, bogus he also referred for to the department of justice as quote, dirty, no-good according to some of the lawmakers that i talked to, he even at one point, complained about taylor swift, were endorsing his rival president joe biden. and he also gloated about how most of the house republicans who voted to impeach him over the january 6 insurrection are no lines hunger in congress. so it was very wide ranging speech, very freewheeling that member ce felt more like a pep rally or even a roast than a serious policy discussion. morning and taylor swift has not endorsed joe biden. do you have any more details on the trump mcconnell counter well, with trump and mcconnell, there was a very serious effort. i m told by both parties he s to really bury the hatchet after years of feuding and years of frost newness right before the meeting, trump and mcconnell shook hands, which was captured on a phone photograph during the meeting. trump credited mcconnell with helping to elect more republican senators, and then after the meeting, mcconnell praised trump and said the mean eating was very, very positive. so just a remarkable inflection point. i think anderson, we re going to look back on this moment similar to kevin mccarthy trekking down to mar-a-lago in the weeks after january 6 and really just captures how much the party, including some of trump s former critics like mcconnell, have really fallen in line in the years after january 6 and despite these criminal convictions, anderson, millions and thanks so much, jonasson. i was new york democratic congressman daniel goldman, congressman. any surprises for you today in the visit by trump not really. he didn t come to the capital, which was good good thing because this is where he fomented a massive riot and insurrection to try to keep him installed in office. he didn t talk much about policy because he doesn t really care much about policy. what he cares about is himself and what he cares about is his conviction 34 times for being a felon and what he cares about her as three other cases and getting revenge. and he wants to do that by tearing down our democracy and what he was effectively doing today is greases the wheels, trying to play nice with republicans who support he needs in order to become president. so that he can take his fat let s just authoritarian views into office if he were to win. and it is just a very telling i think that mitch mcconnell has now bowed down to the ring of donald trump someone who, you quoted what he said on january 25, where he helped donald trump responsible for the january 6 riot. and has resisted donald trump. but now he has clearly demonstrated graded that donald trump owns the republican party. there is no other faction of the republican party that has any influence other than donald trump his maga supporters, obviously, none of us, there s privilege privy to the inner thoughts and mitch mcconnell. but why do you think center mcconnell made this choice? i mean, after, you know the strong comments he made criticizing trump theta, the racist attacks trump made against me kennels own wife. i mean, what is mitch mcconnell get out of this anderson, what do any of these people who have i know good mccaul s running. i mean, it he could he could go out on i d like liz cheney, who at least, has taken a very strong stand ultimately mixed for the same reason since that mitch mcconnell refuse to give merrick garland a vote for the supreme court and then rammed any amy coney barrett through under the same circumstances, two weeks before the election? that s what connell has a very focused and narrowly tailored view of what he wants to accomplish. and at the end of the day i m sure mitch mcconnell views donald trump as the only possibility to get these type of conservative judges who have now overturned roe v. wade paid back into more into the our judiciary and into the supreme court and push forward a clearly minority favored agenda that mitch mcconnell has been pushing for decades. it was seeing melodies and i was reporting is that trump was telling lawmakers counseling them on how to run about and talk about abortion and to talk about states rights and to not seem too extreme do you have any belief that that s how he would be if he got into office? absolutely none. donald trump does not care. donald trump used to be pro-choice. he used to be a democrat. now, he s out there promoting and celebrating his own work and getting roe versus wade overturned he will do whatever he needs to do to secure the support for his fascist anti-democratic attacks on the rule of law to undermine our democratic institutions. and if that means that he ll give over supreme court nominations to mitch mcconnell or someone else on the far right who wants to roll back our individual freedoms, even more than the supreme court has done. he will do that in a minute. and if there here s a national abortion ban that the republicans pass donald trump will sign that in two seconds. do not believe donald trump whenever he says that he will stand up for abortion rights, he has completely flip-flopped in his career. he will do whatever benefits himself. speaker johnson was asked yesterday, the former president attempt the outcome of the election. i just want to play that for years really for the first time republican house and senate meeting with him since the january 6 attack on the capitol are you committed or have you spoken to him about basically not not doing anything like that again, in committing to respecting the sort of american tradition of peaceful transfer of course, he respects that and we all do and we ve all talked about it at nauseum i mean i mean yeah. i mean, i can anyone say with a straight face is donald trump respects the peaceful transfer of power that i want you to take that clip and run it over and over and over. that is everything you need to know. oh about mike johnson and the maga republican party. they will look you in the eye and they will lie directly to your face over and over and over. there is no question that donald trump does not respect the peaceful transfer of power he has made it a litmus test for his vice president that whoever that will be willing not accept the results. and that s why you have every single vice presidential candidates. so far refusing to concede or acknowledged that they will accept them the results. donald trump, it will not accept the peaceful a trap power. you don t have to ask me or trust me, he already did it so for speaker johnson to look in the camera and to say that of course he respects the peaceful transfer of power. put that on every bulletin board around the country. it is total bogus and it shows you what knowing liars the republicans are. congressman, i appreciate your time. thank you thank you. president biden met today with ukraine s president zelenskyy of the g7 summit in italy. the two signing a new tenure security agreement at the press conference afterwards, frozen biden spoke briefly when asked about his son, hunter i m extremely proud of my son hunter. he is overcome and addiction. he is he s one of the brightest, most decent man i know and i am satisfied that i m not going to do anything. i sat i said i advise by the jury decision. i will do that no i m not pardon him the present-day also ruled out commuting his one-sentence seen as mj lee is traveling with the president joins us now from from very italy. so mj, earlier in the week, the white house appeared to leave open the possibility of a commutation or that flee not commenting at essentially overturning the sentence, not a conviction. what specifically did the president say about that yeah. when the president was walking away from that press conference, some reporters yell loud. would you commute your sons sentence and he answered directly. he said no that was after he had more broadly addressed the conviction of his son, hunter, as you just play they re standing by his son, standing by the judicial system, and also reiterating his previously stated position pardoning his son. he said, i will not pardon him. anderson white house officials had suspected that it was likely he would get asked about the hunter issue at this news conference, given that it happened just two days ago, he had not publicly commented on in yet on it yeah they knew that the specific issue of the commutation was one that could come up if you ll recall yesterday, white house press secretary karine jean-pierre was asked by a reporter whether she would rule out that possibility and she wouldn t say yes or no. and that exchange, the white house, new had taken on a life of its own when in reality, i m told the issue was really that some senior aides hadn t had a chance yet to speak to the president about the commutation issue. corinne john p, or said yesterday to reporters, i haven t talked to him about this yet. i m not just i m not going to have anything more to say on this, but it certainly was a really remarkable moment. the president speaking on this kind of a stage. on the other side of the world about an issue that has been so deeply sensitive for his entire family, mj lee, thanks more in prison, biden s trip later in the program next though cnn s donie o sullivan talking to trump supporters as well as a historian of dictatorships and autocracies about donald trump and democracy. and later there s breaking news turns out there are even more undisclosed it s trips supreme court justice clarence thomas took paid for by republican megadonor ave heart failure with unresolved symptoms. it may be time to see the bigger picture heart failure and seemingly unrelated he did symptoms like carpal tunnel syndrome shortness of breath an irregular heartbeat could mean something more serious cold, eight ttr cm a rare under-diagnosed disease that worsens over time 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democracy? she is actually not as good as you think it is but for centuries, america has celebrated its democracy democracy is worth dying for democracy remains the definition of political legitimacy, but some republicans and pro-trump media are pushing the idea that america is not a democracy. united states of america kirk is not a democracy. we are constitutional republic. those things were america is not a democracy. you don t want to be in a democracy. we are not a democracy. we are a republic. is america a democracy america is a democracy. it was founded as a democracy. i ve heard a lot of conspiracy theories. i hear a lot of things out on the road but to hear americans, people who would describe themselves as patriots say that america is not a democracy that stopped me in my tracks. you are hearing people say america is not a democracy because there are people around trump who want them to be saying that who ve been planting that narrative? his america democracy i don t i think we ll never know, but yeah, we re republic. what s the difference i feel like democracy what do we think this through its government i don t see freedom in democracy freedom in the republic honestly, the word democracy and the word republic have often been used interchangeably. there isn t a meaningful difference between them. so much of the warnings and criticism about trump is that he is a threat to democracy, that he has anti-democratic. absolutely. if they can convince people that we don t have a democracy, then it s okay that trump is attacking democracy because it doesn t really matter that s why, like why has democracy become a bad word? because it s been used in a way to change the flavor of our country, which is a republic these words were used in different ways in the 18th century and it s true the founders didn t want direct democracy by which they meant people gathering on the town square. they wanted representative democracy. but i think the reason why does conversation about language has so now is because there is a part of the republican party that would like to rule as a minority and they need an excuse for why that s okay. and so they ve begun to say, we re not a democracy. were, are public and it s not 100% clear what that means. but i think they mean we want donald trump to be able to do whatever he wants some people i ve been seeing debt trump events recently. yes. have been saying american is not a democracy. it s a republic and we ve always been my pros. first of all we have sleek. we re use that freedom of speech and freedom of religion. we used to have that two. now they re picking on the christians and the jewish people i mean, how much more can we are you concerned if trump loses yeah. that there ll be another january 6. no. i think there will be a civil war that s what i think will happen during this whole democracy republican is fascinating. this is the first i ve, i ve heard of that new thing that there are now pushing those. it looks like folks on fox are pushing it. is there a reason the people you spoke with think that country isn t a democracy now, i mean, yeah, look, i mean, i understand some of those folks. no doubt genuinely believed that i might have believed for a long time, this isn t necessarily a new talking point. however, we have seen it just revive over the past few months and they re really the reason we did this piece was over the over the past few months, just unprompted. as i was speaking to a lot of trump s supporters, they would bring this very specific lineup i love this real, it s not a debase right about the former government here. it s not a debate about democracy really why this is happening. and you saw it there in that piece, some fox news and elsewhere on conservative and right-wing media people are trying to convince trump s supporters, others that america is not a democracy in the first place. and we actually saw i haven t noticed that this seem to pick up a bit after president biden speech in philadelphia, where he described trump as a threat to democracy. this is how they seem to be trying to twist language to try and neutralize describing trump as a threat to democracy. because if america is not a democracy in the first place, then there s nothing to worry about your winning a solvent. thank you very much. one of the pillars of a democracy is the rule of law and laws of course are enforced by courts and the highest court in the land supreme court is once again under fire tonight. over new ethics concerns, specifically the behaviors surrounding justice clarence thomas. late this afternoon, senate judiciary chairman dick durbin released new information from a major republican donor about more undisclosed trips provided to justice thomas. it follows previous reporting about numerous undisclosed gifts from that conservative billionaire harlan crow, which include private school tuition for a relative of thomases and decade s worth of luxury vacations. last week after the release of his 2023 disclosures, thomas said certain disclosures had been, quote inadvertently omitted wherever last month in a speech, who railed against the quote, nastiness and quote lies directed toward him. draw now by our justice correspondent, just cash snyder, also a former federal district judge, johnny jones, the third and former federal prosecutor elie honig. so jessica, what do we know about these additional trips now that thomas took on harlan crow plane? yeah. the details just being released tonight for i m senator dick durbin. the details are several new trips happened in 2017, 2019, and 2021. so first and may 20, he 17 justice thomas took harlan crows jet from st. louis to montana and then to dallas. then there was a march 2019 flight where he flew roundtrip between washington, dc and savannah and then in june 2021, he flu round trip between washington, dc and san jose, california. all of this on crows jet and really intersect. i mean, these newly revealed flights, it only adds to what we know were other luxury trips that justice thomas enjoyed, bankrolled by harlan crow. there was also but 2019 trip to indonesia where justice thomas stayed on crows mega yacht. so there have been a lot of previously undisclosed travel that s been gifted by harlan crow is a gop megadonor. he s active and conservative causes. justice thomas, though, i ll note anderson has always it s described him as just a dear friend and says they ve never had any discussions about cases before the court. they ve wow, i mean, that that s you you re hanging out with justice supreme court. that s kind of amazing to think. has justice thomas explained why he did not disclose these these trips? because he talks about his love of staying in for vrb travel and drawing ran on a bus yeah. so he hasn t directly answered about these recent disclosures, but his attorney just released a statement tonight. it says this. it says the formation that harlan crow provided to the senate judiciary committee fell under the personal hospitality exemption and was not required to be disclosed by justice thomas the judicial conference change this provision last year, and justice thomas has fully complied with the new disclosure requirement. so i ll expand upon this to really explain it up until last year there was in fact this personal hospitality exemption. so justices, in the way they read it, didn t have to disclose certain benefits, maybe from there wealthy friends, things like when they stayed at their friends properties or traveled on jets. it was just last year, anderson that exemption was removed. so justices now have to disclose these perks, but there s some question as to whether the disclosures need to be retroactive. there s nothing specifically saying justices have to go back now and disclosed year s worth of trips. but it is still coming out and it came out tonight from the senate judiciary committee, judge jones, does this make sense you why wouldn t justice thomas just come clean about everything harlan crow has given him or paid for. why go through this kind of drip, drip, drip? you know, anderson, i have no idea but this has all the allure of a slow motion car accident. it doesn t look good. i toiled in the federal judiciary for 20 years and i love it. i respect it, but this tears that the fabric the code of ethics that the justices are subject to, which is, by the way, not enforceable says in the first canon that it is there to basically preserve the integrity and the independence of the judiciary now, under the circumstances to the point that was just made he amended his is 2023 ethic statement and he added a couple of his trips when you go to the question of retroactivity, i agree it s less than clear so why would you do that? and not include the other trips they re just revealed there s there s no good answer to that elie. i mean, do you agree with the statement from thomas s attorneys saying that because the personal hospitality exemption, he didn t need to not at all, the spirit of these rules is disclosure and these are not just a small gifts, these are gifts and not donations, but gifts worth tens and hundreds of thousands of dollars. and the whole explanation that this is just a friend doing something for me. i mean, i gotta get better friends that this is something more than just a friend paying for his friend. hundreds of thousands dollars over that here for private school tuition for flights, for hotels violates every cannon in this ethics code. and if you remember anderson about a year ago, the supreme court for the first time ever adopted an ethics code. the criticism we made was it s toothless and i think now we re seeing that judge jones i mean, go ahead, judge. while i was going to say it s interesting to ellie s point about having a friend. here s the acid test, and this is not hard and it s not in the statement of ethics at all if you are making a friend because you re on the supreme court of the united states. if that s why this guy is friends with you, then i would suggest to you that if he s providing hospitality, that s just wrong. it just shouldn t happen. and i don t think that s a hard a hard test for any justice or judge observe if i had done this as a district judge, us district judge, i would have been absolutely subject to judicial discipline of the the most pronounced kind, and i would have deserved it. and so to me, there s if clarence thomas was sitting on this circuit court or was the head of the eoc. do you think that harlan crow would afford him this kind of hospitality? 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if it s not binding on the next administration well, anderson, let s step back a second and thank you for having me on and take a look at what president biden is doing at the g7 in europe he is going back to his third g7 with, our alliances restored and rebuilt stronger than ever with the united states leadership embraced in respected and he has rallied the world to defend ukraine, including with a $50,000,000,000 loan that the united states led and negotiating this week using the interest off of the russian frozen assets. he s negotiated this bilateral agreement, which is very valuable in that there is always a cost for the united states when it reneges on its commitments, when it walks back its agreements and while it s not a legally binding treaty, it s a powerful statement of us support and intentions in addition, he s just this week led and imposing tough new sanctions on russia and china. so with joe biden, we have strong leadership that is strengthened our leinz is not only in europe, but in asia and around the world, which makes america more secure and we have a leader who s trusted and respected we contrast that as you did in your opening with donald trump who is so profoundly dangerous, he has not committed to democracy at home or abroad. he embraces dictators he is the president, former president whose own vice president? national security advisors, secretary of state secretaries of defense. yeah, pretty much everybody on the cabinets of staff. all have set are unfit. and what does that say when the people closest to you say you re unfit to lead, that s very, very concerning when you hear from say that vladimir putin would release wall street journal reporter it just adjust if he asked, what i mean, does that make sense to you like, why wouldn t he then just ask now for that to happen? well, that s a good question. i understand. no, of course it doesn t make sense. it s bluster. it s, it s all dishonest and every day we hear something dishonest out of donald trump s mouth. that is inherently self-serving and not anything we can rely on its. you don t just get to wave a magic wand and have a dictator who s hell-bent on not only taking over ukraine but western europe and more if we allow him. and what is donald trump s say? donald i m trump calls putin a genius. donald trump tells putin that he can do whatever he wants. the hell he wants with our nato allies. i mean, it s the height of recklessness self-interest, and danger, and it s not a future that we can be confident in at all, it would undermine our security profoundly at a time when the world is a complicated place, when you are us ambassador to the un, you obviously dealt with nations whose leaders disregard laws, carry out vendettas against their political opponents when you hear don trump talking about getting revenge or retribution does that seem i mean that seem realistic to you? do you believe he would do that? i do believe he would do it. i believe we have if we have learned anything we should listen to what he says and what he does is often exactly what he says and sometimes worse we have in donald trump a leader who is not running to be the president of the american people he s running for his own self-interest to try to stay out of jail and that is incredibly worrying. and when he says that on day one, he intends to be a dictator, that he will come after his political opponents and anybody who has rubbed i m tim the wrong way. i take that very seriously and i think we all should susan rice. thank you for your time thank you. anderson. way up next to cnn exclusive. been wiedemann talks with hamas spokesman in beirut about the remaining hostages they are holding captive in gaza he asked them how many are still alive and why hamas is yet to agree to ceasefire. his responses coming up this is country is corrupt. we ve got to save it do some terrible things for the greater good we need you build. for the soup, start rounding this up and dumping us off in kansas show me, wrap that doesn t sound good. ashley? 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you seem that count star from the beginning. let s start from beijing on. but one why to talk about the base of 7 october what about the israeli came after good luck to 7 october. it was a reaction against the occupation. what camps after that? it shows the real face of israel. it shows how israeli the cube buying the policy and lands demolishing the situation of the palestinians, killing the civilians. it s not the first time they are getting the civilians hamas is, is an organization. does it regret what it did on 7 october, given what happened afterwards? we are living with this for the last 75 years as palestine s yes now, cnn spoke to one of the doctors who treated the for israelis who were freed on saturday. and he said that they suffered mental and physical abuse. and what do you say when he is an israeli has to say what does lay authorities are asking him to say if you compare the images of both before and after releasing, you will find that they were better than before. i believe they have mental problem. this is because of what israel have done in gaza. but in addition to what has been said about the four recent hostages freed there have been also claims about the dire conditions others faced while in captivity. the fate of the remaining hostages hangs in the balance at the g7 summit in italy, us secretary of state antony blinken said, hoping hamas would agree to the latest us backed ceasefire proposal. response we got was unfortunately not the yes that we were looking for a yes that virtually the entire world has given. okay. mr. hamdan simple question. why hasn t hamas yet agreed officially to the us backed posel for a ceasefire who said it s a positive step but we need to see the facts on the ground. we need to know what exactly that president means by saying a ceasefire, i withdraw while what is left, what do you need we need an israeli ideally, a clear position from israel to accept the ceasefire, a complete withdrawal from gaza, and let the palestinians to determine their future by themselves are you optimistic at this point in time that you will reach some sort of agreement well, i think if the united states administration acted in the positive way, seeing the situation not only in the eyes of israel we can reach soon an agreement. and in the absence of an agreement, this war goes on with know site then i mean, this hamas leader justifies the october 7 attack by hamas. and as long as she had an others, which was a violation of an ongoing ceasefire, claimed, no one knows how many hostages are still alive. obviously there are people who know in hamas, any claims that the released, that the hostages who were freed just recently, the four hostages that they are actually better off than they were before they were taken into captivity. i mean, that s just absurd well, that s what he said, but you need to look at it through the lens of how it s been seen in the region anderson there lot of pictures circulating for before and after pictures circulating on social media of palestinian prisoners who d been freed from israeli jails hills the pictures show healthy people going in gaunt, sickly people looking out. no. mr. hamdan, like millions of other in this region are seeing the pictures of these for israelis who were recently freed from gaza, who on the surf base surface superficially looked to be okay. so that seems to be why he s saying this and we re hearing it from many other people as well. keep in mind also that osama hamdan is a political figure in hamas. he is involved in and then negotiating process, but he s not part of the military wing that holds the hostages in gaza, so he s probably not complete the up on the situation in there. and i think what you re hearing in that interview is more a reflection, perhaps social media then his knowledge of the specifics of the hostages themselves anderson, where she refuses even call hostages, but been wiedemann. thank you. appreciate it. we ll be right back three body serie a. city client uses city s financial expertise to help drive its growth and keep its supply chain moving some more pet parents can get everything they need, right when they need it keeping more pets and families happy for the love of moving our clients forward, for the love of progress grass whether you re moving across town or across the country now, you can count on pods to deliver when we say we will, which is why we were voted america s number one container moving company. hook your move today at pods.com, introducing new advil targeted relief. the only topical pain reliever with four powerful pain fighting ingredients that start working on contact to target tough pain at the source for up to eight hours of powerful relief new abdo targeted relief all these games on directv and no satellite on the roof. think about this blue jays cardinals orioles. what s missing? 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plants and meatpacking plants. these aren t the most powerful people and where do they turn? you have a right-wing house of representatives and a very right-wing supreme court. exactly and i think this is why so many people feel powerless and ironically some are feeling so powerless that they turn to somebody who looks like a strong man. wright, with a golden toilet. who was actually at this moment giving big tax breaks and promising more tax breaks to the biggest corporations. people need to know that the most important thing to remember is the massive trump tax cut will expire next year. he is not for the regular person. robert reich, thank you so much. that is tonight s reidout . all in with chris hayes starts now. tonight on all in a hero s welcome on capitol hill for the architect of the insurrection. we are 100% unified behind his candidacy. a lot of support. the best speech i ve ever heard. we are incredibly unified in working with president trump to get him elected. tonight, how congressional republicans became accomplices to the criminal ex-president. this is an outstanding group of people. i m with them 1000%. they are with me 1000%. as trump pressures the speaker of the house to overturn his felony conviction. then, new reporting on undisclosed luxury gifts to clarence thomas. and why today s supreme court ruling on abortion pills is just the beginning of the battle, when all in starts right now. good evening from new york, i am chris hayes. a lot has happened on capitol hill since the last time donald trump was there. there was the deadly insurrection he incited. there was the biden inauguration he skipped. there was the record-setting second impeachment he faced and there was a time in the immediate aftermath of all of that, late january, february, march, it seemed he may never be welcome back. but we know how that turned out. today the former president and his 34 felony convictions tracked to capitol hill at the invitation of house and senate republicans where he was received like a different dawn. a crime don. seeking not supporters but accomplices and co-conspirators. they are using us as a bad example of democracy and they are getting away with murder and we are not going to let it happen. you are all elected or you are going to be elected again and reelected. i m with everyone of you and i will be with you always. this is an outstanding group of people. i m with them 1000%. we agree just about everything and if there isn t we work it out. the term kiss the ring has been used so often with trumpet has virtually lost all meaning, but it really was on display in washington today. everything about this appearance was meant to convey the idea of republican party unity and they all performed it strenuously. that unity essentially remaking the party of lincoln into a mafia type operation with him at the top. a man convicted in a conspiracy to pay off former paramore is because he feared their stories would complicate his campaign. a man found liable for sexual assault of exactly the kind he brags about. a man who surrounds himself with lackeys who have been convicted or charged of serious crimes. steve bannon, michael flynn. trump has pardoned or commuted the sentences of many of those men. of course they never snitched. because trump envisions interactions with people in these sort of organized crime transaction terms. you do for me and if i am in a good mood and i am happy with your performance, you will get a cut. the republican party signed up to be part of this. that was on display today with discussions behind closed doors. as sources told reporter jake sherman, trump singled out house republicans who voted to impeach him saying that out of the 10 that impeached only one is left. sherman pointed out that was wrong, there are actually two left, but this was trump basically doing his impression of al capone in the untouchables, pointing out all the people in his gang that flipped on him. a sort of snitches get stitches, stay on my good side message to the foot soldiers. if you think that pressure does not work, look at the outgoing majority leader mitch mcconnell. remember what he said about trump in the aftermath of the insurrection? there is no question, none, the president trump is practically and morally responsible for promoting the events of the day. no question about it. this was an intensifying crescendo of conspiracy theories orchestrated by an outgoing president who seemed determined to either overturn the voters decision or else torch our institutions on the way out. and yet here was mcconnell today. the old man, supplicant, submissive, bending over to kiss the ring. getting a breezy endorsement of trump s capitol hill pilgrimage. reporter: senator how was it seeing the former president? we had a good meeting. we shook hands a few times. he took questions from the audience and it was an entirely positive session. great work, mitch. despite all that plenty of those lawmakers were feckless enough to drip out details of trump s backroom talk to sherman and other reporters because you can never underestimate just how cowardly they are. for instance when trump told republicans today that milwaukee, where we are having our convention, is a horrible city. another source told reporters trump was rambling to the crowd. said it was like, and i quote, talking to her drunk uncle at the family reunion. of course in public those sources will get in line and kiss the ring and give the don whatever he wants. maybe you think this is all being too literal. hyperbolic with the metaphors. crime bosses. surely he does not embrace actual criminal gangs and racketeering and violence as a campaign feature. but this is now part of his campaign. listen closely to this because i still can t get over this. it flew almost completely beneath the radar on the mainstream media. i will include us with this, with the exception of the associated press and a few others. but it was on display at his campaign rally last month in the bronx when he shared the stage with a few supportive guests. where is where is he? come on up, fellas. always going to whisper your accomplishments and shout your failures. trump will shout to the winds for all of us. make america great again. okay so trump is doing a rally in the bronx. to trump those rappers are powerful allies. they are also criminal defendants in a sweeping gang case where prosecutors say they gave material support to a gang during a violent street war with another gang. brooklyn district attorney gonzalez says gang members used more than 30 guns to threaten or eliminate their rivals. in total gonzalez says there was one murder, for attempted murders and 12 nonfatal shootings. what we allege and learned during the course of this investigation was that he used a lot of the money that he earned to help facilitate further gang activity. he encouraged gang members to participate in violent crimes. sheff g, who is the rapper on stage with donald trump that he invited up there. prosecutors allege that he threw a party to celebrate a drive-by shooting in october, 2020, in which one alleged gang member was killed and five others were injured. murder. again, alleged. innocent until proven guilty in our system, but did you hear all of that? imagine what the new york post would have done with this headline if those gentlemen had shown up at a rally for aoc or if president joe biden introduced to them introduced them on stage. but the fact of the matter is that conservatives have a criminal as their preferred nominee and he is embracing a criminal model for the enterprise that is now the republican party. michelle goldberg is an opinion columnist for the new york times. tara, let me start with that. those two individuals on that stage. again, i can t believe it happened and these are not, you know, there are all kinds of ways people have been accused of crime. the system can be unfair, but they are accused of being part of a gang that has killed and shocked and maimed people and they are on stage with donald trump and i don t think it is an accident because i think this is kind of the vibe of the campaign. yeah, i talked about this right after the rally, i think on this network, as a matter of fact. pointing out how despicable this was and how this is seemingly okay now in the law and order republican party. it is such an affront to so many things and it is an insult to the american people that we are supposed to sit here and think this is normal. donald trump is a convicted felon. republicans are welcoming him to capitol hill with a hero s welcome. back to the scene of the crime where mitch mcconnell calls him practically responsible for an insurrection. pal around with accused murderers. this is all normal. it s just fine. it s not. it s not. he gets very frustrating sometimes when there seems to be a moral equivalence made between trump and biden and the way the campaigns are covered. like donald trump did what he did today. he is having these rallies where he is going on random rants about sharks and boats and electrocution. he is palling around on stage with guys who are also alleged criminals. meanwhile president biden is overseas representing the united states with honor and dignity of the g-7 and just entered a security deal with ukraine trying to maintain democracy in europe. there is no moral equivalence. your point about how this slipped under the radar and seems par for the course for donald trump, unfortunately this is who he is. he thinks this is okay and by the way for any black folks who think donald trump is on your side, this is what he thinks of you. black people will like me because i hang around with criminals and they were flashy chains and gold sneakers. it is such an affront, honestly, but this is who donald trump is. michelle, one of the thing that happens and again i use the mafia metaphor, because the unity is so intense. of course behind-the-scenes you have like talking to your drunk uncle. he was rambling. everyone goes and tells reporters and there is this distance. the unbelievable applause and then everyone going to tell the reporter that he was really nuts behind closed doors. right, it kind of brings back memories of 2016 to 2020, where you constantly had republicans in these really degrading displays of fealty and then they would go and try to distance themselves from it when no one was looking. maybe because they think it is all a game and we see how far it goes over and over again. i think after the mafia element, it is not just these two rappers. the trim campaign is leaning hard into mafia metaphors. you have seen the godfather t- shirts and merchandise with godfather iconography. donald trump has compared himself favorably to al capone. recently breitbart ran an interview with peter navarro, former trump official and probably future trump official if trump is reelected. currently in prison in miami. he gave this jailhouse interview boasting about how he gets treated really well because the guards and the inmates love donald trump. sort of how a made demand would be treated if he goes to prison and is still able to slice the garlic really thin. i think what is important is it is not just hypocrisy. not just a defiance of law and order. it is a different model of governance that a lot of republicans have embraced. a hierarchy based on personal relationships that they see as an alternative to technocratic liberalism. yes, mafia state as an aspirational model. and then i never know what s worse, like the people who are pretending or the people who are true believers. i think i know which category marjorie taylor greene is, but let me just play her reaction to seeing donald trump today. i really found his speech to be one of my favorite speeches. he came in, talked to the conference. he was very honest. he was funny. he was joking around constantly with everyone. he was really sweet to me. he said to speaker johnson, okay, you ve got one more seat. you need to be tougher. i was sitting back a little ways. he saw me and he was like hello. he is always so sweet and recognizes me and said are you being nice? he was joking and said are you being nice to speaker johnson? he said okay, be nice to him and i nodded my head. the thing about this is, yes, there is always a duality here. he knows what he is doing and the transactional politics are real and they have all sort of bought into it. it is successful because they are willing to get on board for what it will mean for them. yes of course and to answer your question who is worse, the true believers or the enablers, it is the enablers 100%. the true believers, you can excuse it away that they are so far into it that it is not rational for them. the enablers are the ones who know better and are in a position to say no or to say stop, when no one else will. which is what conservatives were supposed to be doing according to bill buckley, the godfather of modern conservative history. they did not do that. they made a decision that this would be a transactional, politically expedient decision to suck up to donald trump who is a direct and immediate existential threat to our democracy. he wants a club talker see and they are okay with that as long as they get their piece of the pie, but no one is safe under donald trump. he will come for them, too. then we as a country and a democracy have to pay the price. that is why he has to be stopped. go ask mike pence who narrowly avoided correct. getting grabbed by a mob calling for him to be hanged. this is j.d. vance, speaking of people auditioning, to be the next person who may be facing that situation. no real republican with any credibility in the party is still blaming trump for january 6. i think it is a good thing. the republican party is in a good place. i think today was kind of like the button on the january 6 was bad era of the republican party. to whatever extent it was there, today was the definitive marking of the end. right and it has been coming for a while. this is obviously a candidate running extensively on january 6 rioters were heroes and warriors and i m going to pardon the mall. the party has embraced him and embraced that message. j.d. vance is right. there are not very many republicans, if any, who have credibility in their party who will say what mitch mcconnell said after january 6 and what i think most of them know in their hearts to be true. michelle goldberg, tara setmayer, thank you both. when you are the republican pic for president and you want to overturn your conviction for multiple felonies, who do you call? the plea he made to the speaker of the house, next. se, next. clean white socks? it can with tide. do i need to pretreat guacamole? not with tide. this is chocolate, right? just use. tide. yeah. no matter who s doing it, on what cycle, or in what temperature, tide works. so i can focus on all the 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the congress, nor should it be. also donald trump was convicted in the state of new york, not the federal system, but that s not stopping them. the morning after the verdict johnson was on trump news making an appeal to the conservatives on the supreme court. i do feel the supreme court should step in. this is unprecedented and dangerous to our system. i think the justices on the court, i know many of them personally. i think they are deeply concerned about that as we are, so i think they will set this straight. yesterday house republican leaders spent the day whipping a bill that would allow presidents charged at the state level to move cases to the federal court. she is a contributing writer at the atlantic where she wrote about trump s absolute disdain for democracy and joins me now. when i saw this i thought that is nutty and not the way any of this works, but that has not stopped things before. i thought that about the mifepristone suit and look how far that god. so it does seem like they are on board, the house republican caucus, on trying to come up with some way of bailing him out. the house republican caucus may be on board, but i don t think that means whatever they are planning will work. if this bill went through i think there would be serious challenges probably made on realism. congress can t just miss around with state courts however it likes and of course he has already been convicted. his options at this point are really appealing through the new york state court system and then the supreme court. there are a handful of legal arguments that he could make on the grounds of federal law, but that will take a very long time and it certainly won t be done before the election. the reporting around the sort of scotus hail mary and this is the daily beast saying that most request for emergency action go to the justice assigned to a particular circuit. in this case it is sotomayor, who has ruled against trump in a most every case before her. the rulebook says the petitioner may renew the application to any other justice of his or her choice and theoretically continue until the majority has denied the application, which means he could keep on the slot machine until the right justice pops up. i m with you again that that seems implausible even by the degree of standards of this supreme court, but that might be true now. all that stands between us and the unthinkable are are those people in power at the high levels going to do the right thing or do something transparently crazy? i do think this is a case for the courts. institutional equities are important to understand. it is also worth noting, the idea that he could ping-pong from justice to justice, that is not how the court tends to do things now. what they usually do is yes the emergency application will go to justice sotomayor and then instead of going to another justice it would go to the full court as a matter of practice and i think it is safe to say they would almost certainly turn it down. this is an extremely conservative court. it is a hard right court, but it is not really a maga court. there have been issues where trump s issues align with those of the conservative justices and uc benefits for him there, but it is really hard for me to see how he could even get to for justices who would be interested in taking on this case right off the bat. he really would be stretching. i totally agree and i think one of the things you see is mitch mcconnell had this sort of speech after january 6 that was basically like this is not the way you do this. basically he was saying you ve got to do the bush league or thing if you want to take an election away, not this january 6 nonsense. do it the bush versus gore way. that is a ludicrous argument and it has done what it needed to do almost certainly in terms of delaying. to call up mike johnson and yell at him to make a magical bill that i am no longer a convicted felon is not going to do the job. right and i think this is what things look like in a federal system. the congress, the president of trump is elected again, they do not have power over what the new york state courts do. alvin bragg, whose office prosecuted this case as district attorney, he was directly elected by the people of manhattan. to some extent i think what trump is really raging against is just the idea that there might be jurisdictions simply out of his control. that is exactly what has him so worked up. quinta jurecic, thank you. coming up, in case $4 million in gifts weren t enough, what s the, it looks like terrence kalama s forgot looks like clarence thomas forgot to disclose another set of gifts. that is ahead. ahead. clean enough for you? yeah! scrape. load. done. cascade platinum plus. i have moderate to severe crohn s disease. now, there s skyrizi. things are looking up, i ve got symptom relief. control of my crohn s means everything to me. control is everything to me. feel significant symptom relief at 4 weeks with 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food programme empower families across the globe. surprise, there are even more undisclosed private jet trips. tonight we are learning supreme court justice clarence thomas took at least three private jet trips paid for by his benefactor billionaire republican harlan crow, according to an ongoing investigation by democrats on the senate judiciary committee. propublica is reporting the newly revealed flights add to the picture of using the jets for personal travel. he owns a high-end jet that can cost over $10,000 per flight hour to charter according to charter company estimates and thomas has repeatedly flown to a destination and back again on the same day. in a statement thomas s lawyer said the trips fell under the personal hospitality exemption and was not required to be asked closed to be disclosed. the reporter who broke the story about many of the undisclosed gifts, he and his rest of his team won a pulitzer for the reporting last year and joins me now. congratulations, by the way. three more trips. what have we learned? the thing that is so striking is the scale of it. we are looking at a picture where harlan crow s private jet, a particularly nice private jet was at the disposal of justice thomas and there are multiple incidents where, for example, flying from washington, d.c. to san jose, california, staying for a few hours and turning around and going back on the same day. that s happened repeatedly. and going from where the jet is based in dallas to d.c. to pick up the justice. it adds to a long list and the picture is a billionaire political donor in a real way subsidizing the life of a justice. they don t make clear the purpose of the trips that included trip from st. louis to montana. location of glacier park international airport. he was scheduled to be in st. louis for a speech. in one instance he flew from the east coast to san jose and returned home later that day. another he took a round-trip flight from washington, d.c. to savannah, georgia. this is how taylor swift or elon musk, that is how they get around. right, the round-trip alone, seemingly for some kind of lunch, we don t know what it was for, still, that could easily cost $100,000 for the flight. probably double the median income that an american makes in a year. it is an extraordinary amount of money. a $100,000 flight. yeah and last week justin thomas amended some prior years disclosure forms to disclose other things harlan crow has paid for. hotels and lodging and vacations. a trip to california. that is the third time he s done that. to be clear, these three no one knew about and no one reported. these were totally new to us. you had no idea? i had no idea. this is it, right? this has to be it. i think we have an absolute, definitive account. look, some of the reporting we did took myself and coworkers months of reporting to piece together these trips that justice thomas and justice alito also got. we don t have subpoena power. the senate judiciary committee does. they said today there would be a full report coming out this summer, so i would not be surprised if there are more revelations. they subpoenaed leonard leo as well, who basically told them to go pound sand. pound sand, thank you for stopping me from saying what i was going to say. harlan crow, he is cooperating. they are getting this from harlan crow. right. they authorized a subpoena. didn t actually issue attended became leverage in negotiations with lawyers and they came up with this deal where he is giving information about the past seven years. potentially not just travel. we will find out when the full investigation comes out this summer. we have to update our bar chart. it is a tough one to read. let s see, which one is thomas? right, there he is on the left. we might need to raise up that bar after we price these ones in. maybe this summer we will get more. can i get your response since i have you here about something justice alito said about your reporting. this is something that he said recently. surreptitiously recorded. take a listen. there are groups that are very well-funded by ideological groups that have spearheaded these attacks. that s what it is, you know. like who? propublica. propublica gets a lot of money and they have spent a fortune investigating clarence thomas for example. have you spent a fortune or are these ideological attacks? it was frankly disturbing to hear this because it was speculation based on no evidence. as one of the two or three reporters who did this work i tell you how it started, which was not a report on justice thomas and alito. we will report on how supreme court justices are spending their time when they are not at the court. it started with a stack of documents of travel records with no names and we pieced together that it is justice thomas taking private jets. we took a hard look at democratic appointed justices and simply found nothing equivalent. if we could put up that bar chart for a second, it is hard 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appeals is arguably the most radically right wing pro trump court in the land. the supreme court threw it out today because plaintiffs lacked standing and the entire ruse was too ridiculous even for this court. make no mistake, republicans may have lost this battle, but they are still fighting the war. it is all but certain that they will bring a similar suit again and will absolutely do so given the opportunity. they don t want to stop there. today senate republicans blocked a bill enshrining protections for ivf only a day after the southern baptist convention, the largest protestant this domination days protestant denomination in the country voted to condemn the procedure. the republican party and grassroots of the party truly believe in this. they are not going to stop there crow seed against stop there crusade against reproductive rights. joining me now is nbc legal correspondent lisa rubin. i guess let s start with the decision today which was not surprising. they kicked it on what are called standing grounds. what does that mean? standing is the notion that you have to be a person who has been injured to maintain a lawsuit. it goes back to the concept that the courts can only hear cases or controversies, not imagined grievances. what the court is saying is that the alliance for defending freedom did not have standing to bring their suit and there are a couple of lines. in one place justice kavanaugh says an organization that has not suffered a concrete injury caused by a defendant s action cannot spend its way into s standing by spending money together information and advocate against the defendant, meaning the food and drug administration s action. that is the good part of this. but as you noted, there are little easter eggs sprinkled throughout this decision that are sort of gifts to the antiabortion right. in large part because of one side can t have standing, the other can t either. one of the things this says is that doctors should not presume that they will have standing to advocate for their patients. that usually means something very different for pro-abortion doctors than it does on the anti-choice side. that s a great point. i want to read the standing argument the plaintiffs presented, because it is one of my favorites. this is from the initial, i don t think of this is the scotus brief or district court. doctors lose the opportunity to provide professional services and care for the women and child through pregnancy which causes harms to providers who can no longer care for their patients and bring about the successful delivery of a new life. you deprive me of the joy of delivering your baby, which is a tangible harm to me, ergo i have standing. the standing analysis survived the district court and survived the fifth circuit court of appeals. it is kind of galling and there is a twist on that argument, too. you deprive me of the ability to care for more deserving patients, the women who want to deliver their children as opposed to women who present in the emergency room having had a complication. hypothetically, to be clear. that hypothetically might do so. when i am forced to divert my attention from deserving woman a, to take care of you, morally bankrupt woman b. you can do this through the courts or through the department of justice if you have the teeth to do it. here is justice samuel alito talking about, he does not say the name, interestingly. he just reads the u.s. section and the solicitor general of the united states does say the name. listen. shouldn t the fda at least have considered the application i think the comstock provisions don t fall within fda s lane. the comstock laws, those are passed in the victorian era to outlaw basically all tools for abortion and birth control. and really sending them between states. if you want to talk about zombie laws and we have talked about them a lot on your show and others. these are statutes prohibiting abortion or things that allow people to achieve abortion. it was a zombie law and it was understood for many decades that the comstock law had no effect. why? because row was in existence. the biden administration has made clear they don t believe the comstock act needs to be enforced unless the intent is to help somebody accomplish something that would be unlawful and given the mail order prescription of mifepristone is lawful, then the interpretation is there is nothing to be done. a different administration however, you can count on the same sorts of folks to press that heavily with the department of justice. and i want to be clear. there are criminal penalties attached to the comstock laws. the department of justice could conceivably on day one start having the fbi arrest people and prosecute people for mailing abortion drugs. they may not even have to go that far. i think the lesson is that you can terrorize people into not doing anything just by having a law and having the threat out there that somebody could be criminally prosecuted for doing something. the comstock act, this is not a hypothetical. there are lots of folks in right-wing circles writing about and talking about this. lisa rubin, thank you. thank you. that is all in on this thursday night. alex wagner starts now. good evening. there are women already terrified making choices about bodily economy. certainly. fear at all levels of american society. thank you, my friend. today donald trump made his first visit to capitol hill. the first time since his followers ransacked the capital on january 6. to unde