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proceed diligently and expeditiously and as quickly as reasonably practicable. but i have proved to be very bad at predicting these things, as you will all realise. but there it is, we have to do a thorough job. in the end, doing a thoroughjob and hopefully getting it right is more important than a few months here or there. so, thank you very much for listening to those opening remarks, and i now invite mr bradshaw to be sworn and mr blake to ask him questions. sworn and mr blake to ask him questions-— sworn and mr blake to ask him questions. sworn and mr blake to ask him cuestions. ., , ., , ., ., questions. can you repeat after me? i swear by almighty _ questions. can you repeat after me? i swear by almighty guard... - questions. can you repeat after me? i swear by almighty guard. .. i - questions. can you repeat after me? i swear by almighty guard... i swear| i swear by almighty guard... i swear by almighty — i swear by almighty guard... i swear by almighty god _ i swear by almighty guard... i swear by almighty god will _ i swear by almighty guard... i swear by almighty god will stop _ i swear by almighty guard... i swear by almighty god will stop that - i swear by almighty guard... i swear by almighty god will stop that the i by almighty god will stop that the evidence i give _ by almighty god will stop that the evidence i give it _ by almighty god will stop that the evidence i give it shall _ by almighty god will stop that the evidence i give it shall be - by almighty god will stop that the evidence i give it shall be the - evidence i give it shall be the truth, — evidence i give it shall be the truth, the _ evidence i give it shall be the truth, the whole _ evidence i give it shall be the truth, the whole truth - evidence i give it shall be the truth, the whole truth and i evidence i give it shall be the - truth, the whole truth and nothing but the _ truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth _ mr blake, i think before you ask mr
you have months immediate custody. you have had the catalogue of failures that mr blake put to you. the woman that sits behind me —— beside me goes to prison for nine months. you have anything say to her? miss matthews was one who — anything say to her? miss matthews was one who dealt _ anything say to her? miss matthews was one who dealt with _ anything say to her? miss matthews was one who dealt with that. - anything say to her? miss matthews was one who dealt with that. if - anything say to her? miss matthews was one who dealt with that. if mrs | was one who dealt with that. if mrs skinner has been dealt with wrong, that completely wrong but i had very little input into the case. diane matthews. _ little input into the case. diane matthews, your _ little input into the case. diane matthews, your colleague, - little input into the case. diane l matthews, your colleague, didn't think there was a case of theft. she would have discussed that with you? not necessarily. she would have discussed that with you? not necessarily.— not necessarily. she didn't think that janet skinner _ not necessarily. she didn't think that janet skinner had _ not necessarily. she didn't think that janet skinner had stolen - that janet skinner had stolen anything at all and there was no evidence of theft. are you saying she would not have discussed that with you? she would not have discussed that with ou? ., , ., ., with you? know, she would have re orted with you? know, she would have reported that — with you? know, she would have reported that the _ with you? know, she would have reported that the their _ with you? know, she would have reported that the their criminal l with you? know, she would have i reported that the their criminal law team. it was miss matthew's inquiry.
because he thought she may offer to pay the money back? know, that was ut in as pay the money back? know, that was put in as an — pay the money back? know, that was put in as an opinion _ pay the money back? know, that was put in as an opinion to _ pay the money back? know, that was put in as an opinion to the _ pay the money back? know, that was put in as an opinion to the lawyers. i put in as an opinion to the lawyers. she comes up a lot, that can't be denied. i she comes up a lot, that can't be denied. ., ., ,., denied. i have got the point in the document- — denied. i have got the point in the document. thank _ denied. i have got the point in the document. thank you, _ denied. i have got the point in the document. thank you, mr - denied. i have got the point in the document. thank you, mrjacobs. | denied. i have got the point in the i document. thank you, mrjacobs. mr maloney _ document. thank you, mrjacobs. mr maloney |_ document. thank you, mrjacobs. mr malone . . . ., 1 document. thank you, mrjacobs. mr malone . , , . ~ ,': document. thank you, mrjacobs. mr malone. ,, ,~,, maloney. i speak the 73 suppose masters. maloney. i speak the 73 suppose masters- i _ maloney. i speak the 73 suppose masters. i would _ maloney. i speak the 73 suppose masters. i would ask— maloney. i speak the 73 suppose masters. i would ask you - maloney. i speak the 73 suppose masters. i would ask you about i maloney. i speak the 73 suppose i masters. i would ask you about three people. —— suppose masters. —— sub—postmaster. this morning, mr blake asked you about the issue of whether suppose masters who came after mr ishaq, after he was suspended, express problem with the horizon system. mr blake take you to a number of documents, i remind you
statement — assisted by your lawyer, to make a statement explaining precisely when the photograph was taken and matters of that— the photograph was taken and matters of that kind. that can be sent to the inquiry— of that kind. that can be sent to the inquiry and i will determine whether— the inquiry and i will determine whether or not it is accepted in evidence _ whether or not it is accepted in evidence. it won't be accepted in evidence — evidence. it won't be accepted in evidence without being given the opportunity for her to consider it herself— opportunity for her to consider it herself since she has an interest in it and _ herself since she has an interest in it and i_ herself since she has an interest in it and i will— herself since she has an interest in it and i will determine thereafter what _ it and i will determine thereafter what status it has, if any. the ball is in _ what status it has, if any. the ball is in your— what status it has, if any. the ball is in your court, so to speak, as to whether— is in your court, so to speak, as to whether you — is in your court, so to speak, as to whether you wish to have this introduced in evidence. thank you for coming — introduced in evidence. thank you for coming to give evidence and that includes _ for coming to give evidence and that includes a _ for coming to give evidence and that includes a very busy day, i believe, mr blake — includes a very busy day, i believe, mr blake. tomorrow, we revert to the thorny— mr blake. tomorrow, we revert to the thornv issue _ mr blake. tomorrow, we revert to the thorny issue of disclosure.— thorny issue of disclosure. that's correct, thorny issue of disclosure. that's correct. we'll— thorny issue of disclosure. that's correct, we'll be _ thorny issue of disclosure. that's correct, we'll be hearing - thorny issue of disclosure. that's correct, we'll be hearing from . thorny issue of disclosure. that's correct, we'll be hearing from mr jackson tomorrow.— studio: post office inquiry wrapping
mistresses, one of home states to my left today. this morning, mr blake takes you to the statement of jaclyn mcdonald given in the mediation case. do you recall that? yes. essentially. — case. do you recall that? yes. essentially, the _ case. do you recall that? yes. essentially, the accusations i case. do you recall that? yes. i essentially, the accusations that miss mcdonald made against you, she said stephen george told me i was the only one in this position and that this has never happened before —— stephen bradshaw. she said that she returned with a lady called caroline richards and spoke to who was running the branch and made threats to do with wage reductions and jail time. threats to do with wage reductions and jailtime. is threats to do with wage reductions and jail time-— and “ail time. is incorrect because we and jail time. is incorrect because we were going — and jail time. is incorrect because we were going for _ and jail time. is incorrect because we were going for a _ and jail time. is incorrect because we were going for a statement. we were going for a statement because she worked in the branch, the people running the branch where
support, develop and challenge. thank you very much. and at number two, it reads as follows... on the 5th ofjuly 2010 at the court case, and the references given, i challenge their reasoning for accepting only guilty plea for false accounting and not one for theft. this refers back to the same case that mr blake was asking about this morning. i'd expend the reasons for continuing the trial that theft. the defendant denied theft and the money was missing due to the horizon system. if this was accepted, then this argument would give credence to the current campaign by former suppose masters. you are very explicit there about your motives in seeking to ensure that no credence was given to the postmasters campaign, where due? ido.
is no one else around. but you are synthetic to ms robinson and he said to her and her partner, off the record, we know you haven't taken the money but worse case scenario is that you would prosecuted. i wouldn't say anything like that because it is not my decision. mrs jact ueline because it is not my decision. mrs jacqueline macdonald. i would like to take you to the self appraisal form. that is... it is document that mr blake take you to this morning. mr blake take you to page five and ask about the interest of the building. iwant ask about the interest of the building. i want to ask about page nine. and it's where we see, i
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