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>> jeff, president biden did come twice last year to speak about ukraine. he's already talked to the american people about the impact it might have in terms of oil and gas prices. big is the white house talking about a plan to have him speak again in the coming days? >> not at the moment. not that i'm aware of, i should put it that way. but big they are keenly aware of the ways in which, to put the focus on domestic politics here, the white house says that policy, politics is not driving their ukraine policy, but they're keenly aware of the presidents opponents who which right to use any movie...

Cross the polish border. a full-scale invasion? >> sure, if troops are coming to lviv, that would definitely influence our decision. >> reporter: now, there was that major cyber-attack that you mentioned earlier tonight. it shut down the web sites of the ministry of defense and a couple of major banks. everything was up and running in a couple hours. people we spoke to said this was probably something to test the system. norah. >> o'donnell: charlie d'agata in lviv, thank you. tonight, president biden warns that harsh sanctions on russia could have significant blow-back on the u.s. economy, in...

Preface to a physical invasion, or, for, now it could just be russia's way of keeping its foot on ukrainian throats as a dangles a troop withdrawal. but the reason we have to pay close attention to this in the united states is because there is history here. russia has turned off the lights, not once, but twice in ukraine. 2015, 2016. they have launched ransomware attacks that weren't really ransomware attacks, they just paralyzed ukrainian agencies and systems. and those attacks came and boomer act back on american companies. in 2017, they froze up merk, they put companies like merck and mers,...

Their ukraine policy, but they're keenly aware of the presidents opponents who which right to use any movie makes against him in this election year, so on that dimension and also because of the fact that it's invasion moves forward in the sanctions are put in place, and there's a significant blow back that would require the american people sacrifice, that it's incumbent upon the president to give the american people advanced warning. it's sort of two decision points that i'm told drive the timing and the scheduling and the overall decision process about when where and how the president address...

Oregon to new jersey to new york to illinois who are lifting mask mandates in schools and indoor masking ahead of the cdc, because they know that voters are upset. so from education to crime to covid, there is an uprising against these policies. and there will be huge blow back in november. >> gillian: because he worked for president bush at a time when the united states was at a war footing overseas, i want to ask you how you think the president himself, borten will more broadly the entire national security team is handling the messaging on ukraine. do you think that they are driving home the...