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online at c-span.org/podcast. >> nice, a discussion of the question "do whistle-blowers' make the world a safer place?" julian assange, journalist, and former intelligence officers are on the panel. this is one hour and a half. [applause] [applause] >> good afternoon. can everyone here me in the back? good to see so many of you here. i am the editor of "the new statesman." when we announced we were having this debate, we put it up on our website and tickets were sold out in a matter of hours. we talked about switching venues. we had a long commute for people who wanted to come here t...

not as crazy as that. what he has been doing -- when senate foreign relations committee. he has a doctorate in modern oil was so, it brings in revenue. middle eastern history from the he has been buying gold for years. university of wisconsin and has libya has enormous gold taught at several well-renowned reserves. institutions. unlike a lot of nations that we look forward to what he has choose to store their gold to say about egypt. after that, many of you might be reserves in secure places like switzerland and fort knox, he familiar with camille for the has kept it all in tripoli. ...

the last six weeks that were based on the material. there is no a tremendous anti- corruption movement that has been building up in that country, something that has not happened since the time of gondi. >> the final minute. >> i thank you. it is obvious that whistle- blowers make the world a safer place. we look at the arguments. this does not mean that everything in government should be exposed. it does mean that the system of breaking alleged alas -- laws is working at it must be kept going that way. otherwise, we cannot replace the reality that we are in. [applause] >> thank you v...

>> the final minute. >> i thank you. it is obvious that whistle- blowers make the world a safer place. we look at the arguments. this does not mean that everything in government should be exposed. it does mean that the system of breaking alleged alas -- laws is working at it must be kept going that way. otherwise, we cannot replace the reality that we are in. [applause] >> thank you very much. bob ayers. [applause] >> when i saw the show of hands at the beginning, i realized what the questions felt like in the coliseum. just a point of clarification, the vietnam war was well under wa...