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likely see a lot of people who said he would not be with them, come back. and i'm not clear that ron decide this wants to go up against the donald trump meat grinder. because most people have struggled with that. >> it is a meat grinder among many other. thanks maggie, you are -- i mean i don't know if this is a badger, but you have chronicled this man in a way that literally, and there's 1 million books written about trump. you can possibly that's very special and it's a very deep and appointed dive into the man himself. a testament to your work as a journalist. it's great to see you, and talk with you about this, i wish we had two more hours to chat. new york times senior republican reporter maggie maggie huber, mitt confidence, matt making of donald trump and the breaking of america. thank you for being here maggie. >> one final thing, in maggie's new book, she describes discussion she had with trump last year in which the topic turned to georgia republican senate candidate bushel walker. and in particular allegations that walker had threats and women. trump told her that ten years ago, maybe it would've been a problem. 20 years ago it would have been

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democrats before the midterms. when that happened, basically every republican running for election or reelection distanced themselves from graham. i say basically every republican, because there was one very notable exception. georgia republican senate non a mini herschel walker. walker told politico at the time that he would back grams federal ban, saying he was a proud pro life christian who would always stand up for unborn children. last night, the daily beast reported that in 2009, herschel walker urged his then girlfriend to get an abortion, and then paid for the pro-choice suture himself. now, i should mention nbc has not independently confirmed that reporting and herschel walker denies the story. but because it's such a major allegation against walker, the daily beast appears to have really done their due diligence and getting the receipts. literally. they verified this woman's claims with the receipt from the abortion clinic. a bank deposit receipt with an image of a signed personal check from herschel walker. and, the get well soon card

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a bigger problem. i don't think the problem today. just ahead, steve kornacki joins me to discuss the latest allegations to walker's candidacy and whether it will have enough facts and one of the most important senate races in the country. but next, donald trump calls on the supreme court to give him a lifeline in the spiraling mar-a-lago investigation. we will have more details on that coming up. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪♪ here goes nothing. hey greg. um...hello? it's me, your heart! really? yes! recording an ekg in 30 seconds. tada! wow that was fast! good news, pal. i'm not detecting any of the six most common arrhythmias. what next? let's get some fresh air. been cooped up for too long. yeah... ♪♪ get kardia mobile card at kardia.com or amazon. alice loves the scent of gain so much,

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times, voice to get two or 3% of about. this could get forced into a runoff. we could see the same -- senate control comes down to a georgia runoff. and, then you look at the dynamics. walker, warnock, in a runoff, you start to wonder if any of the personal stuff matters at all to voters or if they're purely voting on party. because the states would be absolutely clear in that case. you're voting for senate control. >> that runoff would be, i believe, december 6th. i'm gonna ask you. does this remind you of john jones and -- euphemistic, generous, and given the sort of hypocrisy on display potentially in this latest herschel walker scandal, but i mean, doug jones won that seat by the harris jinyintian. this is déjà vu all over again. >> it's the other thing to keep in mind to. doug jones did win in the december 20 c-17 race.

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political correspondent. steve, thanks for being here with us tonight. i hope that you're enjoying the reprieve from being at the -- >> sit down. >> yeah, sit down and have a conversation with me, my friend. will you tell me about what -- are the contours in georgia have been shaping up? they've been a number of scandals that herschel walker has in some ways whether. have any redounded to reverend raphael warnock's benefit? >> the context for this is what you're referring to -- the trouble that walker had had even before the story. he was paying a price for it in the polls. if you look at the senate race in georgia, and you look at the governor's race, and the polling average, there's an eight-point difference between those two races. kemp, the republican governor, is running eight points better even before this than herschel walker. so there was a gap between those candidates.

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you're gonna maybe have -- voting for raphael warnock in the senate race? >> i actually think it's not too hard to imagine -- went to war with donald trump and they both won republican primaries about against trump backed opponents. if you're a voter in georgia who doesn't really like joe biden, doesn't really like the democrats, but also doesn't like donald trump, that's a kind of voter that charges democrats are able to get to -- and might say, hey, can't is perfectly acceptable. -- that disconnect. the other challenge though -- he has to finish ahead of walker, obviously, but georgia runoff state. if he doesn't get to 50% plus one, there's a libertarian in the race. we've seen this in georgia many

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that walker sent that check inside off. the daily beast also corroborated the details of the claims with a friend the woman told at the time of the abortion. so,,, if this reporting holds up, it shows a massive amount of hypocrisy that you would think might tank a political campaign in a normal year. but especially in a year -- front and center on the ballot. this is not a normal year. a national war but republicans are doubling down on herschel walker. the president of the mitch mcconnell aligned -- said today that they are, quote, full speed ahead in georgia. the national republican senate committee put out a statement calling the story a smear, and saying republicans would stand with herschel walker. and is now too late to pick a new republican candidate. for that party right now, herschel walker is too big to fail. joining us now is steve kornacki, nbc national

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