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>> i think we have in the report indications that that occurred. yes. >> the president himself called on the russians to hack hillary's e-mails? >> there was a statement by the president in those general lines. >> so joyce, that gets us closer to complete sentences. to jeremy's point, does tom nichols have a point? >> if you'd inserted the name barack obama for donald trump in that questioning, there's no doubt that impeachment proceedings would have commenced immediately at the conclusion of those answers. it remains an incomprehensible feature of this presidency that there is nothing that tr...

Saying about the speaker tonight she may be softening toward impeachment. investigations sparked by the mueller report are far from over. that much we know. don mcgahn, he of former white house counsel fame, remains at the top of the democrats' witness list. mcgahn sat with mueller, you'll remember, 30-plus hours. his name is mentioned 500-plus times in the report. most notably in this detail, volume 2, juns of 2017. "the president called mcgahn, directed him to have the special counsel removed. so there's that. democrats say that's proof of attempt obstruction of justice. white house instruct...

Had a sitdown interview with the president during his entire investigation. instead he accepted written responses from the president. this afternoon mueller was finally asked why that was. >> why didn't you subpoena the president? >> we were almost toward the end of our investigation, and we'd had little success in pushing to get the interview of the president. we decided that we did not want to exercise the subpoena powers because of the necessity of expediting the end of the investigation. >> did you have sufficient evidence of the president's intent to obstruct justice, and is that why you ...

Of expectations being too high, and it proved nothing against the outgoing energy of the president. >> yeah. and i just want to go back to this point that frank and others raised, which is you know, we live in an era of raised voices. actually, i don't think it would have required raised voices. i don't think it would have required hyperbole, drama, razzle-dazzle. i actually think all bob mueller had to do was explain in his own kind of just the facts, ma'am presentation, hey, the president engaged in obstruction of justice by doing these things. the president engaged in this wrongful conduct,...

>> a little bit. we also heard a monosyllabic answer to a question that was put to him and later he came around to it again and said something like the president was not exculpated which people like me who spend a lot of time in courtrooms are used to hearing that kind of language but that's not the kind of clarion call clarity that i think people were hoping for from this hearing. and i'm struck, brian, that this is really the third time democrats have fallen into this trap of regarding mueller as sort of a messiah figure who was going to provide some sort of unifying, overarching indictment ...