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It was congresswoman bass who kept calling him mccann today to the point of great frustration here in the studio. a very basic question for you, phil. in your judgment did it just get harder for the democrats to get mcgahn in front of that committee? >> well, that's a good question, brian. as you lay it out, that's the next step for democrats. and what they're trying to do here is build some momentum. they have the facts that are laid out in the report. they have the facts that mueller testified to. what they're missing is the political momentum to move towards impeachment. and having an open ...

The contents were seen to be so egregious, the economic standing of so many puerto ricans was seen to be so egregious and the troubles faced by that island among its inhabitants, american citizens all, were seen so egregious that the popular uprising was formed. again, the sketchy but live pictures coming in from san juan tonight, where the governor has resigned. that is pretty much how wednesday ended, and so with it becomes the end of our broadcast. that is our broadcast for this wednesday night, thank you so much for being here with us. good night from our nbc news headquarters here in new ...

Over. that much we know. don mcgahn, he of former white house counsel fame, remains at the top of the democrats' witness list. mcgahn sat with mueller, you'll remember, 30-plus hours. his name is mentioned 500-plus times in the report. most notably in this detail, volume 2, juns of 2017. "the president called mcgahn, directed him to have the special counsel removed. so there's that. democrats say that's proof of attempt obstruction of justice. white house instructed mccann -- mcgahn, rather. i sound like that member of congress today who could not get his name right. mcgahn to defy a judiciary...

Falsity of those statements, right? >> i cannot get into that mainly because there are many elements of the fbi that are looking at different aspects of that issue. >> currently? >> currently. >> thank you. >> you may recall mueller never had a sitdown interview with the president during his entire investigation. instead he accepted written responses from the president. this afternoon mueller was finally asked why that was. >> why didn't you subpoena the president? >> we were almost toward the end of our investigation, and we'd had little success in pushing to get the interview of the presiden...

>> thank you. >> you may recall mueller never had a sitdown interview with the president during his entire investigation. instead he accepted written responses from the president. this afternoon mueller was finally asked why that was. >> why didn't you subpoena the president? >> we were almost toward the end of our investigation, and we'd had little success in pushing to get the interview of the president. we decided that we did not want to exercise the subpoena powers because of the necessity of expediting the end of the investigation. >> did you have sufficient evidence of the president's in...