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Cooperative witness. he says that they're probably not expected to learn a whole lot in his view, and he views this as essentially a waste of time. but she is answering questions about her time on the campaign trail, and a lot of those questions do have to do with the president's involvement with that hush money scheme to keep quiet those extramarital affairs that were about to come out in the run up to the 2016 campaign. there, executive privilege or even saying she has immunity does not apply. still remains to be seen how she answers those questions. at least on the campaign side she's answe...

Rick gates have been subpoenaed to testify at the house intelligence committee, you were acting director at the time both men were charged. what could their testimony inform in terms of the work and the scope of the house intel committee's mission? >> first let me say both men cooperated with the government, and i would expect that this sort of testimony to congress is a part of that cooperation, and so i can't imagine there should be any sort of, you know, obstacle to getting them to come in and speak very candidly. both were also, you know, inextricably tied into aspects of the trump organiz...

To share anything beyond what is in his report, why, then, do you think it is important to hear from him in person testifying before congress. >> well, i think americans have busy lives. i don't think everybody is going to have the chance to sit down and read a 448-page dense report with damning information it that is important to the american public. so who better to hear from than -- as i said, the report are his words. it is his testimony. i think it will help the american people understand exactly what happened here and the extraordinary lengths to which this president went -- there is evi...

Impulsive. the biden campaign loves it. every time we see the attacks the president and allies launch against him, it fast forwards this straight to the general election. the thing we hear at events, the president is hitting early states, they believe he is the one that can beat donald trump. the longer they telegraph that strategy on the trump campaign side, the more confident the biden campaign feels about their ability to navigate what could be a tricky primary for him. >> we use the term potentially dire political situation for trump. i feel that's his constant political condition. that's ...

Would be calf strtastrophic eve. you think that conversation is done? >> i would have to think so. bill barr would have to dramatically misrepresent what's in the report for a bombshell that would change the minds of republicans. i don't think that will change. the thing for me is how the democrats will handle this on the campaign side. i don't know any smart democrat was banking on this report would save them or get them elected. while republicans may have to reassess how they're going to approach this, the ones who were waiting in the wings, i think for democrats it's business as usual, carr...