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About the allegations more than a week before the formal referral. Theyve known about this person and that others spoke to this person for some time. Key context when you hear the president seeming to muse that people speaking to the whistleblower that people should be executed. Is this is threat to keep potential witnesses silent. I want to know whos the person who gave the whistleblower whos the person that gave the whistleblower the information . Because thats close to a spy. You know what we used to do in the old days when we were smart, right . With spies and treason, right . We used to h...

Dirt on joe biden serve rudy giuliani or donald trump other than campaign value? so it's really a straightforward statute. everyone is fixated on quid pro quo. you don't need a quid pro quo for this statute. as long as you're asking, it's a crime. >> i think it's interesting every time giuliani opens his mouth, david, he makes the situation more complicated and dicier. he went on tv last night and said, hey, it wasn't just me. the state department was involved in all of this. the secretary of state knows what's going on here. he keeps on basically providing a witness list for the impeachment i...

Greenberg talked to "the washington post" last week. >> were you aware at the time that taking something from a value from another country would be illegal? did you sense even then -- do you sense even now it would be illegal to take dirt which has campaign value from another country? >> well, first of all, henry greenberg is an individual not a nation. if he was representing any nation, he was representing the federal bureau of investigations because he worked for 17 years as an fbi informant. but in addition, at the same time, it doesn't matter if it is a french-ka fladian that called me, a ...

The actual quashing but show this evidence of a pattern so that just gives you more evidence and you go into court to prove those. >> we'll get to the "access hollywood" tape in just a moment here. the issue is you have to prove, sarah, that this was in order for it to be legal and a campaign violation that it had a campaign value, it was to help candidate donald trump, not husband donald trump. >> right exactly. >> not businessman donald trump. >> it's not about adultery as i repeatedly said. this is about a critical time right before the elections where there is this pattern as we've said no...

Reporting that the ad was pulled in response to white house questions. so there is an open question about whether the white house called ford be and complained -- ford and complained about this ad in the first place. what do you think? >> i, ford has a reasonable explanation that the ad ran, its campaign value, and they're moving on to other ads. however, the detroit news story is not, they're not backing away from the story. and the old saying goes, when there's smoke, there's fire. whether or not ford, you know, bended to the questioning and said, you know, let's just go ahead and move on or...