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and then that law after shelby county became kind of the leading edge of a lot of these other laws in especially southern and battleground states that have expanded voter suppression quite a bit. and also at the same time have created a narrative that there are more fraudulent voters. >> i mean, it's really striking. this is the best they could come up with, someone who accidentally thought because she was on supervised release and not completed the terms of her release that she could vote, cast a provisional ballot, which was caught and not actually entered in. this was the big case. this was like oh, look, we've got our tangible evidence. and you sat down with crystal mason. what is her view of this, now that she is out in the world watching all of the big lie, watching the cases roll through the federal courts of people that did things like invaded the capitol in an attempt to overthrow an election? what does she make of her case and where things stand?
get out there and fight to get their voices heard. >> there are tools available on our when we all vote website, you can go on the website, it will link you. if you're having trouble rem registering, if you've been blocked, it will make sure that you can still show up and vote, cast a provisional ballot, you have to investigate what's available in your particular state but don't let anybody tell you that you can't vote and that's part of the diabolical strategy and the way to combat that strategy is to show up in larger forces and vote. >> i love that. i just want to get real for a minute. >> let's do that. >> i see the trump rallies, and they've got 20,000 people, 30,000 people. don't you wish we had obama or somebody out there with our 20,000 or 30,000 person rallies. can you please get us some big rallies? >> you know what? rallies do not affect elections.
aren't eligible to vote, whether because of mistake, innocent mistake, or fraud. so, let's, at the very least, let everyone, about whop there's a doubt, cast a provisional ballot, and let's figure out after election day, whether they were entitled to volt or not. but these are not really in place. >> and texas also underscores the problem with the loss of section five of the voting rights act, you know, the voting right acts stopped it in its tracks. section v allowed us to stop discrimination before it happened. when we're talking about elections, if discrimination happens, it's too late. the outcomes -- >> but how high is the bar? in 2013, there were only 122 of these kind of i.d.s that were actually enacted to the official ideas. what we're saying, is the bar too high, that people don't care enough? they don't have the money to actually fill out and get their certified birth certificate, or is it not as big of a deal that we all seem to be thinking it probably might be. >> i don't think it's that people don't care enough, i