To ponder. that your top agenda is making sure 20 million people don't have health insurance. let me say as clearly as i can, it is not going to happen. we have come too far. >> the lead writer for "the new york times" the caucus blog. thank you for your time, michael. >> happy to do it. >> let's talk about this push here. we heard to start this week, i saw an ad a short time ago, but are they banking, meaning the administration, banking on this being effective? after all we've seen different messes and different attempt to educate the public for some time now. >> i think there's -- i think it...