so also tonight we want to congratulate eric and lara trump on the birth of their first child. eric tweeted out he was excited to announce son luke. grandpa now has 9 grandchildren. good night, everybody. see you tomorrow. tucker: well, good evening and welcome to tucker carlson tonight. you probably thought espn stood for entertainment and sports programming network. now it looks likenedless stupid political nagging. the network has drawn criticism for pulling robert lee off a uva football game because his name bore some resemblance to that of a dead confederate general. now it gets better ge jimmie mel hill white supremacist surrounded himself with white supremacists. more than a dozen follow-up tweets trump has empowered white supremacists see charlottesville. people noticed this and today espn released a statement in response saying quote the comments on quit from her jemele hill do not represent the position of espn. we have addressed this with jemele and she recognizes her actions were inappropriate. whatever that means clay travis may know something about this. he joins us tonight. clay, what exactly does that mean we have addressed it with an anchor. is that punishment? it means that nothing actually happened because jemele hill is saying the higher ups at espn believe. i think this goes all the way to the top, tucker. bobble iger, the ceo of disney follows 59 people on twitter. one of them is jemele hill. i think what has happened is disney and espn has decided we want to be a left wing sports network. so if a guy like curt schilling comes out and he says oh, i disagree with the north carolina transgender bathroom law, he gets fired. if a guy like mike ditka says i don t think barack obama was a good president and i m voting for donald trump, he gets fired. but if jemele hill comes out and says donald trump is a white supremacist andth only reason he got elected president is because is he white and all of his supporters are effectively bigots. she gets rewarded, wrapped on the knuckles she continues to do her show because bob iger and john skipper the ceo of disney and president of espn agree with her and want left leaning politics to be the forward facing front of espn. tucker: remember when glenn beck said something like that about barack obama and the world stopped. and everyone denounced him immediately. is there a huge market for left wing sports analysis? well, the easy answer, tucker, would be look at espn s ratings. they are collapsing. another idea would be look at their business model. it s not a yo new thing on the left white supremacy campaign. last year hillary s campaign tried to suggest the slogan make america great again was itself racist u hillary just made this point again in this interview with jane pauley. you pointed out in a piece that they forgot a key fact bill clinton once used that trays as well. watch we have got the tape. i ask you to join with me today to give me your hands and your heart, to give me your prayers and your help. i believe that together we can make america great again. tucker: it s kind of weird, thank you for finding that by the way. unremarkable. tucker: kind of weird to look at that and say boy that s a racist slogan. really? what way? i guess donald trump stole that from bill clinton. only white supremacist when trump says it. when hillary clinton s husband said it i guess it s a warm toasty friendly call to patriotism or something like this. again, the democrats don t have any ideas. they are fresh out of ideas. they don t have agenda. there is no program. there is no vision. all they have left is to try to stir racial tension and get each other at each other s throats and somehow they hope to divide and conquer. disgusting and unpatriotic and unamerican way to conduct public affairs in this country and they should be deeply, deeply ashamed of themselves. tucker: also worrisome long term. how does this wind up? how does this end, this story? it depends on if things turn around in this country and we economic growth and prosperity and things bounce back. largely these things go away. very often you find in countries people have trouble paying their bills they have trouble paying their bills and so on. it leads to family tension and racial tension and you see what has happened in the last few weeks is racial mayhem and blood shed in the streets it doesn t turn out very well. democrats need to stop. this they disagree with donald trump on his policies, great. let s have a policy discussion. throwing around racism, racism, nazi and white supremacy is about as ugly as it gets. gets. tucker: i agree with you. crosses the line. come on now. it blows the line up completely. tucker: that s for coming on tonight. thanks for having me, tucker. tucker: a quarter of all the homes in the florida keys left most of the state s residents without power even now. for update on the aftermath of the storm we are joined by adam housley who has been in the keys i think since wednesday and still there in key largo tonight. hey, adam. yeah, tucker. ry have been here since last wednesday. this is the first time we have seen it similar to last wednesday or last thursday, actually. the lights came back on. last night we drove through here after we did your show. almost missed the turn to the hotel because it was so dark. only light was star light basically at that hour. now it s good to seat electricity back on here in this part of deerlg and starting to trickle on down the keys depending on where you are. cell service still very spotty here. water depending on where you are also can be spouty. most stores have yet to open, although we did see some of the supplies come in to a number of different stores. really the tough news here tonight. death toll is 12 in florida due to hurricane irma 55 all tolled if you count the caribbean nations and fema estimates as many as one quarter of the homes here have been destroyed or severely damaged. we have seen a lot of damage here. we have also seen at love homes that survived. maybe the first floor was blown out which it was meant to do and second floor is just fine. a lot of recovery still to go here, tucker. the southern or the lower keys, i should say, still some concern there about infrastructure and possibly some searches that need to take place. for the most part the keys are at least trying to get back to normal. we are seeing a massive federal and state response here, tucker. tucker: that s heartening to hear. adam, have you really done a lot work down there. yeah. tucker: thanks for joining us. thanks. tucker: california about to ban every public school, every hospital, every library from cupitoing with federal immigration law. really unprecedented. up next, we ll talk to a supporter of the new sanctuary state status. also hillary clinton brought a pretty big crowd for a book tour. we will show you that and give you exclusive report on the role that her state department has played in the benghazi attacks which was five years ago yesterday. stay tuned. each year sarah climbs 58,007 steps. that s the height of mount everest. because each day she chooses to take the stairs. at work, at home. even on the escalator. that can be hard on her lower body, so now she does it with dr. scholl s orthotics. clinically proven to relieve and prevent foot, knee or lower back pain, by reducing the shock and stress that travel up her body with every step she takes. so keep on climbing, sarah. you re killing it. dr. scholl s. born to move. and life s beautiful moments.ns get between you flonase outperforms the #1 non-drowsy allergy pill. it helps block 6 key inflammatory substances that cause symptoms. pills block one and 6 is greater than 1. flonase changes everything. immigration enforcement as a matter of policy. that s not california s only bill intended to protect illegal immigrants. another bill just passed by the assembly would bar alan lords from reporting suspected illegal immigrant tenants to the feds and expose them to lawsuits if they disobey if they attempt to see the law enforced. alex ross central is an immigration policy analyst with the cato institute in washington. he joins us. as a libertarian, you are obviously for property rights. absolutely. tucker: why in the world as a matter of policy would the state protect criminals who steal other people s property from deportation? well, i don t think there is any good reason to do that, but, when you look. tucker: this law does that. on the sanctuary bill sb 54, it actually lists 800 crimes where if you are convicted of and you follow into you get arrested. you get sent to jail for them. then you are deported and that s an asset of the bill that i completely support. i think that s wonderful. but 800 crimes. i couldn t even list 800 crimes. tucker: why any crimes? here is what i don t understand. people come to this country illegally. they almost invariably consume more in benefits than they pay into the economy. that s been conclusively shown. not necessarily. tucker: there are exceptions. but overwhelming majority consume more than they pay in. fiscal evidence is pretty clear. tucker: they are here illegally. why would you put up with any crime at all? i don t understand? why is it our obligation to accept criminals illegally from other countries? that s insane. it is to accept people who are criminals and what this does is it takes a look at people who are not violent or property offenders. people who haven t violated the rights of other people. who haven t committed serious crimes or felonies. tucker: how about any crimes. going to focus scarce law enforcement resources on those who are actually harming other people. tucker: that s not what it says. government only has scarce resources. tucker: not worried about the federal government s budget problems. the state of california is not saying we are trying to save the u.s. money. the state of california is playing a very obvious political game where they are trying to win the support of illegal aliens in hopes of giving them the vote as you know. but the thing is. tucker: it s purely political. the cost does fall on california. arresting illegal immigrant you have to turn them over to us. in california that means they are held, a person who is arrested is held for an extra 20 days in california jails. california prisons. tucker: come on. this is highly it s not it s not compensated. that s the fall government telling states and localities how to enforce laws and what to do. i m a believer until federalism. tucker: are you telling me with a straight face this is about the uncompensated custody that california pay for. its senators could be standing up right now and saying we are demanding federal funds, which they would get instantly to cover this cost. but they are not. because that s not what it is about. by the way, if that s reason, then why are land lords in california, if this bill passes going to be in jeopardy for reporting to the feds their illegal tenants? it has nothing to do with the cost. landlord i agree with you that slaw absurd. unfortunately california bears the cost of federal immigration enforcement like any other state does when the feds tell them they have to hold these people in jail 20 days on average or more. tucker: silly. you know it s silly. it s a big cost that the taxpayers of california have to bear that they decided not to for in this case nonviolent and a number property criminals. will government resources on people who aren t hurting people in this country. tucker: why is california giving benefits to illegal aliens? i mean, if it s a cost savings. what benefit are you talking about? tucker: public schools? the dismowrt in 1982 in a decision said that. tucker: how about medical care. public school. in terms of medical care, the federal government during the 1986 antala act also said emergency care tucker: you think the state of southern california is upset about that. this is a lie. as you know it has nothing to do with cost. the presence of this illegals from california is a massive cost they don t care. it s purely an effort to get votes. i m going to put you on the line here. yeah. tucker: there is an effort in maryland right now to allow people who are noncitizens to vote in elections. actually i think it s being decided tonight. i could be wrong. we are going to see this in california where illegals already get drivers licenses. do you think noncitizens should be allowed to vote in the united states? no. tucker: okay. i don t think they should be allowed to vote. even though there is a long history of noncitizens voting in this country. tucker: you will see this is the next frontier in what is, again, purely a political takeover of the government state, and federal by the left using. california and maryland already already heavily blue. tucker: california is a blue state because of immigration, period. california is a blue state because of bad moves by the republicans. tucker: that s totally wrong. a vast quantity of empirical research on this shows it was the 1991 to 1994 tucker: what are the numbers? there is a. tucker: i will let you off the hook because you don t know much about california. i m telling you the same percentage of the population as hispanic. the texas g.o.p. did not declare war on hispanics. tucker: the truth is that texas has had a huge hispanic population for hundreds of years. they are fully american. they are not foreigners living in our country. they are americans. a lot of them, you know have different political views. some are republicans, some are democrat. california has a massive population from people who are not here who are not american. percentage of the state of texas that sill legal immigrant is higher than in the state of california. it s 6.1% of texas. 6% in california. tucker: they are not voting yet. they are not voting in california yet either. tucker: they will be and you know it? we will see about that. tucker: thank you, alex for joining us. thank you for having me. tucker: democrats went hard after a judicial nominee because she is catholic. why the democratic party seems so uncomfortable indeed so very hostile to christianity all of the sudden. stay tuned. ostriches don t really stick their heads in the sand. a peanut is not a nut. and a real john deere. is actually real affordable. you learn something new every day. the surprisingly affordable john deere e series tractors. now you can own america s tractor for just $99 a month. learn more at your john deere dealer. 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senator mike lee of utah serves in the judiciary committee and he joins us tonight. senator that looked pretty close to a religious test to me. it certainly felt that way to me, tucker. and as a religious minority myself, i am someone whose ears perk up very quickly when i start hearing questions into someone s religious belief and saying that they are of a concern to my colleagues. look, this was settled in 1787. this was part of the original constitution prebill of rights. we cannot have religious tests that determine someone s qualifications or lack thereof to serve in federal office. tucker: what would happen if in a hearing with a muslim nominee you said tell me about how many times a day you pray and do you really believe that allah stuff? not that you would ever say that. but what kind of reaction would you get if you did. exactly can you imagine someone asking this of a muslim who are someone who is jewish or a hindu or a sikh? any other religion. anyone who worships other than in a catholic or a christian or a mormon background i can t even imagine how that would ever be tolerated for a moment. we should not have to tolerate. this look, intolerance masquerading as tolerance is one of the most wicked things known to man. we cannot allow it to take hold in our government. tucker: have you noticed i mean, this seems of a piece. i don t think we are being unfair in pulling that clip out. there does seem to be, to a greater extent i have ever seen, open hostility toward hostility to christianity on the left. one of my colleagues called out russ who was being nominated for a position at omb. the question was asked based on what he believes about the prerequisites for obtaining eternal salvation. why this is ever a relevant consideration. why that s ever an acceptable question is beyond my ability to understand. yet this colleague also called out that nominee and said he couldn t vote for that nominee. that s troubling. tucker: people ask how could evangelicals voted for donald trump maybe this is why. i can t resist and i didn t tell you i was going to ask this. i can t control myself chairing subcommittee on antitrust in the senate. do you think there will ever be a move against gool for what appear to be antitrust violations? look, any time there is a violation of antitrust law, i think you will see a move to correct that antitrust remedy. one of the many things that we see in the digital age is the emergence of certain things that people find troubling. they don t always fit neatly within the the structure of existing antitrust law. i think those questions will come up on a case-by-case basis. at some point someone might be argue that the law be changed. in the meantime we have to deal with the law we have on the books. tucker: you are suggesting under current law google as a clear monopoly is not in violation? what i m saying is that that is a legal conclusion you just made as to whether they are actually operating in violation of federal antitrust laws. that s the framework within we have to operate. tucker: of course. senator, thanks for joining us tonight. thank you. tucker: appreciate it pope francis has weighed back in to american politics this time to say that president trump is not sufficiently pro-life. the pope hasn t had a lot to say about the democratic party s fanatical support about abortion he recently said it wasn t pro-life to repeal daca. that s president obama s program to give work immigrants. priest lady mt. carmel church of new york and old friend of this show and he joins us tonight. father jonathan, thanks a lot for coming on. my pleasure. tucker: so, this gets to the larger question of the catholic church s role in american immigration policy, the catholic bishops are the single largest facilitator of refugees coming into this country as, of course, you know. and i think there is a reasonable debate about that. but i guess what bothers me is when religious leaders on any side make a claim and the pope appears to be doing this if you disagree with me you ever falling outside the boundaries of acceptable christianity. that s of fair enough concern. let s put this into perspective. he was on a plane coming back from colombia, still in he went back and spoke to journalists as i applaud him for doing. they started asking him questions. this was a mexican journalist, a veteran mexican journalist from tell if i m not mistaken who says to the pope what do you think about daca? okay. this is the pope, you know, who is traveling the world, right? and he says twice he says actually, i don t want to comment on that because i don t know anything about the law. actually. tucker: good answer. he doesn t because it s not a law, right? it s an executive order. and he says i don t want to talk about it and they insist. and another journalist insists and says no what do you think about daca? so finally what he does is goes back to a principle which i think is very important. he says hey, listen, if you re pro-life, right, if you are pro-life, well, of course, we don t want to be separating families. and that s a principle i think you and i would agree on and democrats and republicans would agree on. but he said that saying i don t want to talk about daca and he actually said something else that was very interesting. i think he said hey, listen, i think i understand this is not just an executive order. it s an executive branch but should also go to the congress. that s what needs to happen. tucker: well, good for him. i agree with that you are the best explainer of the pope s statements i think i ever met. let me ask you a broader question here. you often hear catholic bishops and clergy say we have a christian obligation to help immigrants come here. yeah. tucker: that s a fair position. what i don t understand is the fact that the overwhelming majority, something like 98% of the money that the catholic charities gets to resettle people comes from taxpayers. if you have a christian obligation to do something, why is it christian to force other people involuntarily to pay for it. okay. there is like five different questions there here. first of all, bishops don t say we have a responsibility to help immigrants come here. rather, that there is a natural right to imgrant great. that s with an e to leave one s country in pursuit of a better life. but the bishop and the catholic church would say most christians would say there is a responsibility. and the pope actually talked about this on the plane. he said there is a responsibility of the government to use prudence. he used this. nobody has reported this. to use prudence to regulate immigration according to sustainable levels. and even talked about the importance of keeping that level to a point that would alookout integration. he went even further he said integration means allowing them to have jobs. learning the language. why was not nobody reporting on this. so, yes, there is a natural right to immigrate. but there is also a responsibility of the government to control immigration levels to sustainable levels. i think pope francis would say the united states could do a better job. tucker: i think i would agree with him there. but hold on. i get it and actually i agree once again with your explanation. of course, because you are brilliant. tucker: i m assuming you are right about the what pope was saying he meant. let me ask you a second question once again. why is it christian to force other people to pay for something you describe as a charity? if i want to give money to an orphanage and i go to your house and hold you up to gunpoint and give that money to charity, i don t think i have done a good deed. why doesn t if catholic charities is going to bring people into this country and others why don t they pay for it? why are they forcing me to pay for it. excellent question. it s not just a question of whether it s christian or not to welcome the foreigner or the stranger. that s from the bible. so, of course, it is christian. now, who pays for it is another question. now, the government is giving money to lots of organizations, private organizations to do things that the government thinks is good for the common good. okay. that is positive for the common good. let me tell you, private organizations like catholic charities, like red cross does a lot better job of doing these things for the common good than the government does. and you would agree with that i think. tucker: i would not. look, i m a protestant but i m very kind of pro-catholic in a lot of ways. i know you are. tucker: i don t think that this is adding to as you describe the common good. i don t think it s a good idea to move, i don t know, tons of somalis from refugee camps in kenya into maine. catholic charities does not go and move people from somalia to maine. what they do is once the government gives them permission to come over, then catholic charities and lots of other organizations helps them integrate. and that is so important and they do it a lot better than the government doing it for themselves. tucker: why not pay for it if it is such a good deed. why not take a collection every week and say there is a good thing. 98%. if you would like to come to the bronx and help me do that tucker. you are more than welcome. tucker: okay. as soon as you cut off the federal subsidies i will do that. i promise. come on. you want the federal suck is i did is to go to federal like organizations and state organizations? you think they do a better job? are you kidding me? tucker: you sore conservative. ridiculous. tucker: i think the catholic charities are doing a great job doing something i don t think they should be doing in the first place. fair enough. tucker: thank you. great to see you, father. okay. tucker: hillary clinton back on the campaign trail to sell copies of her new book and sell more blame for her defeat. show you 450eu89s because we can t resist. yesterday was the anniversary of the benghazi disaster. we will talk to security contractors who say they were pressured to keep quiet about what happened that night. stay tuned for our report. when heartburn strikes, take zantac for faster relief than nexium or your money back. take the zantac it challenge. will people know it means they ll get the lowest price guaranteed on our rooms by booking direct on choicehotels.com? hey! badda book. badda boom! mr. badda book. badda boom! book now at choicehotels.com this morning weirdly. hillary is on to it now. yesterday was not just another day on blame day. 16th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks and 5th anniversary of the bengals attack. hillary clinton was secretary of state. she spent the day with a bunch of adoring fans at a book signing. [cheers] chanting hillary] tucker: thousands of people lined up to see hillary clinton in new york. white house press secretary sarah huckabee sanders called her book tour, quote, sad. and, five years after benghazi security contractors are speaking outs to fox news. they alleged they were pressured to keep quiet by a senior official in the clinton state department. they knew too much they said. catherine herridge has this exclusive report for us. it was a state department contract officer trying to silence you? oh, absolutely. the u.s. ambassador is dead and nobody is held accountable for it and three guys who try to defend him all died. people who made the poor choices that actually i would say were more responsible for the benghazi attacks than anyone else, they are still in the same positions making security choices for our embassies overseas now. jerry tore is a former green beret president and ceo of tours advance enterprise solutions which supplies security embassies around the world. brad ongs a former intelligence army officer they have more than 45 years of service. speaking exclusively to fox, they have firsthand knowledge of the security nightmare on the ground in benghazi, libya before the 2012 terrorist attack that killed ambassador chris stevens, foreign service officer sean smith and former navy seals ty woods and glen daughtery. five years after the attack, could it happen again. oh, absolutely. nothing has changed u. in the spring of 2012, torres bid on the security contract for the state department compound in benghazi. the nearly $700,000 deal handled by jan went to mysterious company blue mountain group. guards local hires through another company and not armed. blue mountain is a little tiny security company registered in whales never had a diplomatic security contract never done any high contracts anywhere in the world that we have been able to find. this classified cable first reported by fox news shows mid august of 2012 ambassador stevens and his team knew they were in trouble. warning the state department that radical islamic groups were everywhere. it was a disaster. they were sending these cables back to the contracting guys and the decisionmakers back here and they weren t responding. it s gross incompetence or negligence. one of the two. two weeks before the the attack with the situation critical, suddenly the state department wants their help. they came back to us and said can you guys come in and take over security? so we were ready i mean, you know, unfortunately live 12 days later the ambassador was killed. after the attack, emails show blue mountain was advised not to talk. torres and owens claim they got the same order. same contracting went further summoning torres 2013 another job overseas to come to the state department building in roselyn, virginia. she stopped me in the lobby short of the guard post and had a conversation with me with respect to bengals. what did the state department contract officer say? she said that i and people from torres should not speak to the media. should not speak with any officials with respect to the benghazi program. when you chose to be silent, did you feel any guilt about it? oh, absolutely. we had about 8,000 employees at the time. you know, we just didn t need that level of damage because these guys, their livelihood relies on the company. the state department declined our request to make available and repercussions have continued against their company. since that conversation we bid on 20 security contracts for u.s. embassies and lost 18. do you feel more comfortable coming now because there has been a change in administrations. that was probably the key reason that i stepped forward. given that the politics has been taken out of the benghazi situation, now that there is no longer a candidate or anything related to it, we have an opportunity here to fix the problem that made it happen. the contractors describe their state department experience as the swamp squared. separately fox news also sent a series of questions to blue mountain, the security team on the ground in benghazi during the 2012 terrorist attack and there was no immediate response. tucker? tucker: i wonder why there was no response? you know, when you look at the security mistakes that were made just leading up to the attack, blue mountain has never really been forthcoming about how they got that contract in the first place. and now we have these contractors stepping forward saying they were asked to come in at the 11th hour and then they were threatened to stay silent after the fact. and that s really astonishing. tucker: it s kind of striking. thank you, catherine. you are welcome. tucker: law professor dared to criticize the southern southern poverty law professor. by the way she is black. that professor will join us after the break. bewildered and confused but much more knowledgeable about the southern poverty law center. stay tuned eo fibromyalgia is thought to be caused by overactive nerves. lyrica is believed to calm these nerves. i m glad my doctor prescribed lyrica. for some, lyrica delivers effective relief for moderate to even severe fibromyalgia pain. and improves function. lyrica may cause serious allergic reactions, suicidal thoughts or actions. tell your doctor right away if you have these, new or worse depression, unusual changes in mood or behavior, swelling, trouble breathing, rash, hives, blisters, muscle pain with fever, tired feeling, or blurry vision. common side effects: dizziness, sleepiness, weight gain, swelling of hands, legs and feet. don t drink alcohol while taking lyrica. don t drive or use machinery until you know how lyrica affects you. those who ve had a drug or alcohol problem may be more likely to misuse lyrica. with less pain, i can do more with my family. talk to your doctor today. see if lyrica can help. the toothpaste that helps prevent bleeding gums. if you spit blood when you brush or floss you may have gum problems and could be on the journey to much worse. help stop the journey of gum disease. try parodontax toothpaste. expestandard.e lexus rx with advance safety. lease the 2017 rx 350 for $399 a month for 36 months. experience amazing at your lexus dealer. for tech advice. dell small business advisor with one phone call, i get products that suit my needs and i get back to business. a farmer s market.ve what s in this kiester. a fire truck. even a marching band. and if i can get comfortable talking about this kiester, then you can get comfortable using preparation h. for any sort of discomfort in yours. preparation h. get comfortable with it. she accused them of effectively becoming a hate group while fighting against hate groups. the splc s reaction was predictable. no interspeculation of any kind they denounced swain as apologist for white supremacist. carol swain just wrote about the experience in the wall street journal. she said the group s attacks are a badge of pride for her. she joins us now. hello. tucker: carol swain thanks for joining us tonight. my pleasure. tucker: when you saw the southern poverty law center was calling you apologist for white supremacy, what was your reaction to that? well, i was not surprised. i had criticized them first. and i was criticizing them because i saw that they were engaging in mission creep, that they had lost sight of their original purpose. and they had started going after conservatives. at the time it was immigration restrictionists. so i wrote a blog, september of 2009, and about six weeks later, my photograph was in my local paper on the front page with a headline that i was an apologist for white supremacy. tucker: did your original piece say anything nice. they retaliated. tucker: it s unbelievable that they would do that i want to be absolutely sure i m not missing anything. did you say anything nice about white supremacists in your piece. it had nothing to do with white supremacists. there was a film that i reviewed, the title of the film was a conversation about race. and i gave it an enthusiastic review because i felt that on college and university campuses that there was a side that was not usually heard in social science classes. and that was the perspective of whites who felt that they were being beaten up about racism. and so i endorsed the film and they used that as the pretext to label me as an apologist for white supremacy even though i had written at that point two books on white nationalists. tucker: and not in favor of it, of course. no. of course not. tucker: the whole thing is so crazy. i guess there are corrupt groups that exist to raise a lot of money for mostly well meaning but gullable voters but i get it what heim shocked by is how many media organizations take them seriously pretend that they are legitimate. did you lodge a complaint with them? well, first of all, anyone that criticizes them publicly run the risk of being labeled as a hater or being placed on hate watch or being mentioned in one of their articles. and so to get branded by them, all you have to do is criticize them. in fact, you yourself is at risk of being placed on hate watch. tucker: i m sure that s true. but to call an african-american woman a white supremacist, i m sorry to laugh. it s horrible. bull it s also so ludicrous. that why would apologist for white supremacy. they have a lot of influence at universities. and the name, the southern poverty law center, it conjures up an image of this organization that is seeking to irradicate poverty that is working on behalf of the downtrodden, totally false. they do nothing really for the poor. and so they have been able to amass, you know, millions of dollars with that image and what they do now is really pursue an ideological leftist agenda and they punish anyone who chris sizes them. tucker: including you. professor swain, thank you for telling us what happened to you. i appreciate it. apple has unveiled their latest addictive substance the iphone x. a brand new even more encompassing device something to be celebrated or something to be feared? 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country? i hope he did write those letters. i hope he does call those family members in the coming days. he was wrong to try to make up this just awful lie that president obama didn t do that. but my concern is more about what it says about future decisions he ll make about putting soldiers in harm s way. or point of fact, current kinetic military taifd by this nation in places like niger were frankly, senator, i bet if he polled a thousand americans, 999 couldn t have told you that the u.s. had members of the armed service there s in harm s way in niger. what is going on there? what is striking to me, four americans were killed there, and what do we know about why we re there, what the strategy is, what the u.s. government is doing? well, listen, to be fair to president trump, this counterterrorism strategy of pushing special forces out wherever al qaeda was gaining president talked about at length today, and i want to ask you, because i have you here and you ve been very koch vocal on this topic is obamacare. he seemed to talk about destroying it at one point, saying there is no obamacare, and then saying the problems are all due to obamacare. i want you to take a listen to some of his comments and respond if you don t mind. take a listen. republicans are meeting with democrats because of what i did with the csr. because i cut off the gravy train. if i didn t cut the csrs that. wouldn t be meeting. they d be having lunch and enjoying themselves. they re right now having emergency meetings to get a short-term fix of health care where premiums don t have to double and triple every year like they ve been doing under obamacare. because obamacare is finished. it s dead. it s gone. it s no longer you shouldn t even mention. it s gone there is no such thing as obamacare anymore. what does that mean, senator? i have no idea what that means. well, first of all, the first piece of that sound bite is very clear. what he is telling you is he is intentionally trying to hurt americans, trying to drive the cost of their coverage up or ending their coverage in order to drive republicans and democrats to the negotiating table. first of all. that s ridiculous. second, he is kind of right that there is no clear part of the american health care system that is obamacare any longer, because the affordable care act is now wrapped inside of the american health care system. so when he thinks that he is sabotaging the affordable care act, or what he thinks is obamacare, he is really sabotaging the entire american health care system. when he pulls these cost sharing reduction payments for the insurance companies, it s not just that those people lose insurance or have their premiums go up. everybody else s premiums go up because the insurance companies spread it out to everybody else. i guess he is kind of right that he attacking the whole health care system and not just obamacare. thanks for your time tonight. thanks. i want to read you the white house response to the back and wbr id= wbr6023 /> forth, particularly after your former colleague had that to say about the president. they say the president wasn t criticizing predecessors but stating a fact. when american heroes make the ultimate sacrifice, presidents pay their respects. sometimes they call. sometimes they send a letter. other times they have the wbr id= wbr6184 /> opportunity to meet individuals in person. individuals claiming their bosses called each family of the fallen are mistaken. alissa never made that claim. what do you make of that? there. you have a statement from a white house official who says something quite a bit different than what president trump said today. and the truth is when you re the president of the united states, one of the things that you feel is a grave responsibility for the millions of americans who have signed up to serve and sacrifice for this country. and the thing that is painfully obvious about president trump s remarks today is he doesn t seem to understand, or at least feel the weight of the responsibility that he has as our commander in /b> chief. if he just spent half of the time that he dedicates to trying to convince the flab he cares for our troops with actually caring for our troops, then our troops would be better off, and i think we d all feel a lot better about president trump s capability and capacity to effectively and responsibly manage the united states military. it also just it seems to me there is a requirement to for an address on what they were doing, what the circumstances were under which they were killed. the whole the idea that the president who speaks about everything from which espn commentator should be sanctioned to who is going to run in 2020 to the dow. talk about everything and not talk about this, it s just a bizarre, bizarro mission in the first place. chris, you alluded to it in your conversation with senator murphy. the president has time and time again deem stlatd he is not really comfortable assuming the responsibility of making these life-and-death decisions that we re expecting our commander in chief to make. he has regularly put his generals in a position where if something goes south, they will take the blame. but if something goes well, then president trump is certainly the one that is eager to step forward and take all the credit. that s not what we expect from a leader. i was with president obama on a number of occasions which he paid his respects to fallen soldiers. and one example i can think of is when president obama used to go to arlington national cemetery on veterans day. one of the things that he would do after delivering his speech there and after laying a wreath at the tomb of the unknowned soldier, he would make an unannounced visit to section 60. this is the part of the cemetery where the remains of those essentially 9/11 generation veterans are laid to rest. and president obama would go there in private. he would often go with the first lady. i even got criticism and complaints from white house reporters who wanted to cover the president making that visit. and, chris, i use this example not to portray president obama as a martyr, but actually to portray, like president george w. bush, as somebody who felt the weight of responsibility that the commander in chief bears. and like i said, president trump doesn t behave in that way at all. i thought it what was interesting was the casualness with which this president characterized the actions of his predecessors. and he has gone to when a u.s. service member was killed in yemen in a raid very early in his tenure, i know that he was there. i know he has contacted an gone to walder reed. i was the contention he made today standing in front of the cameras as if everyone who came before him was very casual about the whole thing. yeah. i mean, this is sort of the latest iteration of what it is about him to try to defend something president trump has done that often is in itself indefensible. and to fail to acknowledge the enormous sacrifice that those four brave men made in africa is indefensible. and frankly, it would have been much better for president trump to say i regret i haven t said something publicly about this, or to be forthright and say look, i don t talk about this publicly, but the fact of the mattersy wrote them a letter last weekend. i doubt that fact. but he said it will probably be going out tonight, which i thought is a little bit of a tell, if you ve had experience watching the president. josh earnest, good to have you. thank you, chris. lynn sweet s covered multiple presidents, the washington bureau chief of the chicago times. michael steele of formerly of the republican national committee. what are you saying? how did you react having been in many of those press conferences with many different presidents dealing with in this long period of war, the longest period of war in the nation s history, people talking about this. what was your reaction to it? i was there when he was telling this, this story. first of all, he is mailing a letter tonight. he is mailing it tomorrow. but then when he couldn t resist taking a jab at president obama, that s when i thought is there no situation, mr. president, where you cannot resist taking a jab at obama? we re talking about four soldiers killed in action. all that was asked is are you going to send some kind of condolences to these families. and as you and josh pointed out, all he had to say is i am. it isn t unreasonable to say i wanted to give them a little time, if that s what he wanted to do. but once he started doing these comparisons that he had no fact basis on, and i applaud nbc s peter alexander for getting in that follow-up question. because it was pretty chaotic at that press conference. yeah. to trump s credit, he took a lot of questions. and he didn t have it rigged as to who would ask questions. he could just yell it out, which i did, for a question i had. but peter asked the question in a perfect way, where he trump ended up saying he kind of knew, he didn t know. maybe someone told him. a general told him. he was disassembling. and i know you have gone through this a lot. and i know there is a lot of things where you talk about fact checks and the president. but on this one, chris, we re talking about people who soldiers who were killed, and giving some comfort to the families as the president of the united states, as the commander in chief. and this dissembling is something that struck me as something i had never, ever seen before. and something this serious. michael, your reaction. it s the same. it s stunning. it is inexcusable in many respects. i watch that as the president was going there. and something struck me was that he didn t he didn t want to get caught flatfooted with the answer i haven t responded. right. and that s what this was all about. that s right. he had not responded to these families. and probably, you know, someone came in and said you really do need to do this. and never thought he d be asked about it. and when he was, he got caught flat-footed. so the default position was, well, obama, well, you know, he never did this. i m the first president really to do this. and thus it begins. and that is the m.o. here when he gets caught, with that light on him, and he doesn t have the correct answer, which is the honest answer, i have not responded yet. he could have very easily said, you know, i wanted to give the family some time. this is bad enough pressure on them, et cetera, et cetera. but that was not the default for him. lynn, what did you make of that press conference more broadly? you just mentioned it was chaotic. and watching it at home, it seemed kind of bonkers. just lots of yelling out. and it seemed to kind of go off the rails. he seemed also to want to stay gallup as long as he could. mcconnell was kind of standing there square-jawed. what did you make of it? well, again. i applaud that the president stayed there for 40 minutes. chris, i came from chicago, city hall, a lot of yelling to get your question answered. and that s what we did, because the system wasn t rigged as to who was going to have questions asked. on that applauded. yeah, i like the victim too. but from the looks of the public, aside from the very serious question of not talking, his answer to the question about the families of the soldiers who were killed, we got a lot of topics covered. and there is time for follow-up. and mcconnell weighed in. and we went through a lot of stuff there. but, yes, it was more informal and maybe kind of reminiscent of the rough and tumble of how i came up. but he stood there and took it. and when you heard all that yelling, it s because we were assembled without chairs. i don t know if you had shots of how we were. you had to yell because there was no other way for him to figure out who he had a question. waving your hands. he didn t know who a lot of the people were. so he was pointing. and in that way, it was perhaps a good way where the press had a chance just to ask whatever they wanted of the president and have enough time to take in i would think if we went through it, at least 10 to 14 topics. michael, finely, one of the things, the juxtaposition today is the president talking about players kneeling for anthem. it sort of struck me this perfect juxtaposition of a lot of what has happened and the way this country thinks about war in the last 16 years. this abstraction of the flag and the troops. i understand at the same time there are four service members actually killed in a battle in a place that most americans couldn t tell you we were engaged. and that preference for the abstraction and the symbolism over the actual conversation over where the u.s. is fighting its wars. yeah. it is stunning the sort of dichotomy there, the two views of the same symbol, if you will. and in the fact that this administration with respect to those four servicemen, there may be very quiet operations on the ground there. we don t know what all of that is. and, okay, i guess that. but when you do have something that occurs like the death of these four soldiers, it does bring into stark relief exactly what that flag is all about. and more importantly, what our mission. and i think there is very little that people know than at this point. and that is equally disturbing for a lot of americans out there. the administration i think is still trying to figure its way out. the president, again, goes to the default conversation which is oh, kneeling before the flag is horrendous. tell us about fighting in niger. elevate that up to what are we doing in niger at the moment. tell us why we re fighting in niger. lynn sweet and michael steele, thank you for being here. thank you, chris. next in two hours during two events, president trump managed to take two different sides in the raging republican civil war. the ever widening gap between the trump promises and the trump presidency, in two minutes. the classes, the friends, the independence. and since we planned for it, that student debt is the one experience, i m glad she ll miss when you have the right financial advisor, life can be brilliant. ameriprise weekends. the president and senate majority leader pledged well, if not their undying affection, at least their acquaintanceship this afternoon. former chief strategist steve bannon declared, quote, a season of war against the gop establishment. just hours after the president all but took bannon s side. i have great relationships with actually many senators. but in particular, with most republican senators. but we re not getting the job done. and i m not going to blame myself. i ll be honest. they are not getting the job done. today s rose garden event was an attempt to reboot a legislative agenda that has been by any standard a failure. over the weekend, peter baker wrote about the gap between donald trump and his actual wbr id= wbr14905 /> policies. apparently the president did not enjoy baker s reporting, calling him out on twitter. quote, the failing new york times story by peter baker /b> should have mentioned the rapid terminations of me of tpp and the paris accord. and peter wbr-id= wbr15053 /> baker joins me now. well, peter, someone said today eli stokols said the whole day felt like a rebuttal to the peter baker column. did you take it that way? no. i think he s got more things to think about than that. well, you d be surprised. maybe so. he had a reaction to the story, and that s fine. it s fair. actually thought his tweet was perfectly reasonable and civil. i have no kind of problem with feedback if he wants to talk about it, i would talk about with it with him. the point is to look at big ticket items and how the talk is more expansive than the actual actions. sometimes it s because congress hasn t gone as far as he would like on health care, for instance. sometimes he is talked out of going further like on the iran deal. both of those things happened on friday. well talked a lot about those. that is what the story was focusing on. it wasn t meant to be a review of his entire recognize. one is the legislative agenda. i want to talk about that first. today is the goal is to come out hey, we re buddies. two hours later, i m kind of with bannon in the civil war. but reality from everyone i know on the hill and the people that i talk to there and other reporters is that the white house and capitol hill are not at all in sync. no, they re not. and this is an attempt to show it obviously. but think about what we ve seen in the last couple of weeks. two weeks ago we saw the secretary of state come out that he felt compelled to deny that he was going to resign. a week ago we had the white house staff come out and deny he was going to resign. today the senate majority leader come out and deny that he and the president of the same party are not friends. i mean, really seeing a lot of effort here to smooth over what s been a lot of destructive internal friction here within the white house, within the administration, and within the republican caucus. the fact that they re doing this in public does not mean that that friction has gone away there is obviously a lot of angst on the hill. a lot of republicans who don t know whether to believe what steve bannon said yesterday or whether to believe what president trump said today about where things are going in the next year, by the way, steve bannon was called for using the julius caesar metaphor. he called for a brutus to go after mitch mcconnell. that sort of literary appeal to assassination. i know he meant it metaphorically. when the president gets asked about id today, he says they re not getting the job done. and then comes out two hours later. that point you have to think the appearance of mcconnell is not fooling everyone. everyone on capitol hill watches what is going on. yeah. republican senators understand exactly what is happening. and look, they understand the civil war just like anybody. they re looking back at their own states. they re worrying about primaries. they re thinking about where they might be vulnerable. and, look, when bob corker comes out and says the things that he says, it s interesting that most of the other senators didn t necessarily come out. it s not that they don t agree with him. i think a lot of them do. even steve bannon said they do. they re afraid of saying it outloud. they don t want the civil war to erupt even further than it already is. they don t want to be luther strange. they don t want to lose a primary in their own state. it s is increasingly the archetypal dysfunctional family gathered at thanksgiving. thank you. thank you. the president gets pious in public and mox prayer behind closed doors. what the president has been saying about vice president pence behind his back, coming up. and if you want to see what was going on behind my back, we re live streaming from the studio all show, even through commercials. visit the show now and tell what s you think. aggressive styling, so you can break away from everyone else. the bold lexus is. experience amazing. so we know how to cover almost almoanything.hing even a swing set standoff. and we covered it, july first, twenty-fifteen. talk to farmers. we know a thing or two because we ve seen a thing or two. we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum our guests can earn a free night when they book at choicehotels.com and stay with us just two times? fall time. badda book. badda boom. pumpkin spice cookie? i m good. book now at choicehotels.com donald trump s obvious pandering to religious people during the campaign, his manifest lack of knowledge was at times so columns circumstances it was downright comical. 2 corinthians, 3:17. that s the whole ball game. that the one? is that the one you like? i m wondering what one or two of your most favored bible verses are. i wouldn t want to get into it. because to me, that s very personal. the bible means a lot to me. but i don t want to get into specifics. when i drink my little wine, which is about the only wine i really drink and have my little cracker, i guess that s a form of asking for forgiveness. i do that as often as possible, because i feel cleansed, okay? it was evident to pretty much anyone paying attention that this profane lies the married seemingly biblical ill let rat candidate was not a religious guy. but four out of five evangelicals voted for him anyway. on friday the president became the first president to speak at the valley summit where he pandered to america s belief. american is a country of believers. and together we are strengthened and sustained by the power of prayer. in america we don t worship government. we worship god. [ cheering ] big applause. that s what president trump says publicly when he is in a room full of evangelicals. but what does he say privately when it comes to his evangelical vice president, his propensity for prayer? a new report in new yorker magazine has some amazing quotes that tell us how trump reportedly really feels, next. statins lower cholesterol, hi! leaving a career to follow a calling takes courage. a personalized financial strategy can give you confidence to take the next step. hi guys! aw yeah! see how access to j.p. morgan investment expertise can help you. chase. make more of what s yours. at the value voters summit on friday, president trump cast himself as a pious man casting fealty to the power of prayer. but the new yorker citing a campaign staffer says behind closed doors trump had a habit of mocking mike pence s religiosity. when people met with people stopping by pence s office, he would ask them did mike make you pray? he needled the socially conservative pence over his hard line stances on abortion and homosexuality. when it turned towards gay rights trump motioned towards pence and said don t ask that guy, he wants to hang them all. saying it s filled with unsubstantiated claims that are untrue and offensive, though it did not dispute any of the specific claims. i am joined by ben how of red state. ben, there is just something so remarkable about the juxtaposition. we ve been watch donald trump before talk about the power of prayer when i feel like we all know where this guy is in terms of his own personal devotion. well, you know, he has shown over and over again that he will shift based on whatever audience he is talking. to i ve said before i feel like he is just selling trump stakes everywhere he goes. and i think that s basically what he does here. he comes up with techniques based on what he thinks is going to indicator to a particular audience. unfortunately a lot of evangelicals buy into it. they accept what he is saying as an accurate portrayal of his inner beliefs. i m not going to pass judgment on his faith. if he says he is a christian, i ll believe it. but i will say a lot of people had a lot more distrust of barack obama saying he was a christian when he said he was when he showed far more of a christian attitude in his public speaking and how he dealt with people than donald trump ever has. here is my question about folks. religious evangelicals. there is two ways you can read this. one is folks know that the guy is not, you know he is not pious in the way they are. he doesn t have their value structure. he doesn t have their behavioral structure, their devotion. but look, that s the person we re in coalition with. there are certain things we want, whether it s supreme court justices. and this is simply a marriage of convenience. or there is also the idea that it works. that the sales job somehow works, despite what to me reads as just like obviously pandering condescension. well, look, i think that in some ways a lot of christians look at this as an alliance. they say they don t they re not really concerned about whether or not he is pious. he can say with a he wants to whenever he is giving a speech. and if he says something look li like, they ll cheer for that. the main thing is he going to put something on the supreme court that is going to be pro-life. what laws supported to gay marriage, things like that. i think that s really a doomed way of looking at things. if you re a christian, then you re supposed to believe that the right way to do things is to be a christian. th and if you align yourself with somebody who uses christianity as a tool to achieve his ends, i think that you re aligning yourself with exactly what you were warned about in the bible to be afraid of. you know, this quote about pence s prayer and the one about he wants to hang all the gay people, which is an offensive joke because it s offensive joke to joke about hanging people. yeah. and that s a gross joke. but it s also struck me as 805 to pence. it s a few of people s religiosity as essentially a punish line and ridiculous, that people that have the belief system that mike pence says he has are essentially like barbarian neanderthal rubes. well, he is playing the caricature. he is calling pence the caricature that a lot of christians reject. plenty of christians say look, we have our positions on homosexuality, or we have our positions on abortion. but we re not barbarians like you re saying. and he is essentially saying yes, you. and he is saying it to his own vice president. but what is interesting it s more of that you know you were just talking about this a moment ago. about how we can seattle. we can see how he is. in all of his interacts before he was president, when he was running for president, this man is a bully. he pushes people around. he pushes buttons. he says things that he he knows are going to be outlandish, and he does it to his own vice president. he is like a 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i mean, i think that s the $64,000 question. she sued him for defamation. as part of that suit she filed a subpoena, her lawyers did, on his campaign seeking, as you said, all documents pertaining to any incident. and that subpoena did not initially appear in the court file because it was served own the trump campaign but it made its way in the file in september as part of wrangling over the suit itself. so i think the question you know, the trump campaign has until october 31st to file their response. at some point after that there will be a decision whether the suit goes forward. that s the point at which we ll find out whether this discovery is going to be turned over. there is some precedent here. paula jones suit was allowed to go forward during the clinton years. correct. which is important precedent. one of the connections here to weinstein is the way in which the response to the women is attacking them. in 2015 the first time the weinstein allegations became public and when the model mattress accused him. immediately you saw stories attempting to discredit her. she s made other allegations. it seems to me this is part. m.o. the threat of that is what kept weinstein s secrets for so long. absolutely. that s how the power dynamics work. they re not about sex, they re about power abuses. it wouldn t sexual harassment and sexual power abuses wouldn t happen if they didn t have the power to suppress, hire, fire, make or break the working lives of the women when we re talking about this in a professional context, that s one of the things that is in question as well as physical power. the fact that women are not believed, that they re shamed, that they re made out to be untrustworthy, crazy, vindictive, have axes to grind, that s part of the threat. and the fact that they should feel ashamed. all of these things are part of what works to make sexual harassment and assault possible. you had this incredible story that you wrote about, a small sort of window into the power that weinstein had in which you were a cub reporter basically and had a run in with him. i was a young reporter working on my first story. it was not an incidence of sexual power abuse. i interviewed him totally legitimately and he screamed at me, things i can t say on the air, you know, called me the c word and pushed me and just you know, screamed at me in public. i was there with a colleague. he took him out and put him in a headlock. it was an incredible in front of a ton of reporters. in front of a ton of reporters and photographers. though that incident was reported on, it was reported i was the aggressor. you were the crazy one. i was the crazy one, i burst into his party. no pictures were published. he was a powerful man. the way the president dealt with this, these women are lying. he threatened a lawsuit which is another tactic that we ve seen used very effectively. he threatened to sue the new york times. that was never borne out. correct. and i think, you know, it s interesting because another story that we did this weekend was to go back and talk to many of the women. great piece by the way. who came forward, thank you, after trump. almost to a person they said, i m really happy to see that mr. weinstein s been fired, but i can t help feel a little bitter sweet about it because, you know, nobody believed us or not enough people believed us. and i think that a lot i think a lot of people thought that was a very poignant reaction. one woman even told us, maybe if i had been a celebrity they would have believed me. there s a similar oh. go ahead. it reminds me of a story that i believe was in pro publica who spoke about arnold schwarzenegger s groping them. that s one of the things that s so painful about this moment and that i worry about with the weinstein outrage. you and i sat at this table a year ago. there was outrage about what donald trump did. kelly oxford had that twitter hashtag where women named their first sexual assault or sexual abuses that they experienced. there was tremendous outrage. it was a traumatic event. a male senator told me he had no idea his wife had been harassed or groped. we had what should have been the educational moment of mass reaction. great point. and we had an opportunity there. there was a mechanism by which donald trump could have not been elected president, but he was. and i think that that and it s strange because he lost the vote, right? 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all right, jim, thank you. jim acosta over at the white house. lawmakers certainly have plenty of questions on the niger ambush and the overall u.s. deployment there. let s go to our senior congressional correspondent manu raju. manu, members of congress, i assume they re going to get their own briefings. reporter: yeah, they certainly are, wolf. and also calling for more information from the trump administration. something we just started to see today when the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff for the first time laying out in detail the timeline of events that happened, explaining that these u.s. forces were on a reconnaissance mission and trying to combat this attack from these forces in niger, but what the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff also made clear, wolf, a lot of questions remain unanswered. tonight, the pentagon revealing new details about the ambush in niger that killed four u.s. soldiers. there is a perception that the department of defense has not been forthcoming. reporter: the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff revealing that u.s. forces were on a reconnaissance mission and on their bway back to their operating base in niger when the fire fight began, but they waited one hour to call for support. important to note, when they didn t ask for support for that first hour, my judgement would be that that unit thought they could handle the situation without additional support. and so we ll find out in the investigation exactly why it took an hour for them to call. reporter: it took french fighter jets another hour to arrive on the scene, which was two hours after the ambush began. dunford making clear many questions still remain. the mission of u.s. forces change during the operation? did our forces have adequate intelligence, equipment and training? was there a pre-mission assessment of the threat in the area accurate? did u.s. how did u.s. forces become separated during the engagement? specifically sergeant johnson. and why did it take time to find and recover sergeant johnson? reporter: the comments come amid growing tension with capitol hill. top lawmakers from both parties accused the administration of failing to disclose how four service members were killed in niger. americans should know what s going on in niger, and one of the fights i m having right now with the administration is the armed services committee is not getting enough information. they deserve it because we represent their families, too. reporter: questions have swirled since the october 3rd raid that left four american soldiers dead, killed in an ambush by up to 50 isis-aligned affiliates near the niger/mali border. there has been conflicting information about what the american troops were doing at the time of the ambush and how they came under fire from the isis insurgency. obviously there is something that they even don t know at this moment. reporter: another key question, why was the body of sergeant la david johnson found nearly a mile away from the scene of the ambush? it s one of the many questions that sergeant johnson s widow still has today. i don t know how he got killed, where he got killed or anything. i don t know that part. they never told me. that s what i ve been trying to find out since day one. since october 4th. reporter: according to the pentagon, there are approximately 800 u.s. troops in niger. most are helping construct a drone base. while others are supporting embassy operations in the capital. the military says a fraction of these truoops are special operations forces, advising and assisting the nigerian military. the pentagon says it s kept congress regularly informed, pointing to a letter trump sent hill leaders in june, saying the were there 945 troops in niger and cameroon performing counterterrorism duties. i didn t know there were 1,000 troops in niger. john mccain is right to tell the military because this is an endless war without boundaries, no limitation on time and geography. you ve got to tell us more. reporter: some say it s the responsibility of members of congress to know what is happening in the region. i recoiled a little bit at that, truthfully. they re conducting five named operations, which i m sure the senate armed service committee should know about. reporter: now, on thursday, the senate armed service committee will get its own briefing. a closed briefing when members of the pentagon will come and explain what they know what happened. one question that dunford said he could not answer today is exactly how sergeant la david johnson s body apparently was a mile away from the central scene of that ambush, saying he didn t want to get into that because it s still under investigation. wolf, dunford also saying if congress doesn t know what s happening here, then, quote, i need to double my efforts to get the information out. wolf? good point. all right, manu, thank you very much. joining us now, senator ben cardin of maryland. he s the senior democrat on the foreign relations committee. senator, thanks very much for joining us. lots of very disturbing questions on this niger ambush, but let me start with the president of the united states. why do you believe he simply couldn t let the widow of sergeant la david johnson have the last word on this today? she s grieving. she s only 24 years old. she has two little kids, a third one on the way. why did he need to get the last word and tweet about it this morning? wolf, first, it s good to be with you. secondly, it s hard to understand how the president handles these things. we saw the way he handled the khan family during the democratic convention. he seems to always want to get the last word, even when he s wrong, and it s very frustrating and obviously it s a very difficult time for the family and it s time that the president understands that. when do you believe that myesha johnson, the gold-star widow, and the american people will learn why it took nearly 48 hours to find sergeant la david johnson s body? well, there are a lot of unanswered questions and i think it s appropriate that we ll have briefings in congress as to what what went wrongs. first of all, understanding why our troops are there. this is under a 2001 authorization, which many of us think does not apply to having soldiers in northern africa. so i think there is a question as to whether congress has authorized the use of force in northern africa, and, secondly, why we re not being kept readily informed. why it took so long to get help, why the body was left, these are all questions that need to be answered. did you know, senator, that there are almost 1,000 u.s. troops deployed in niger? no, i did not. i m not part of the group that would have been formally notified about u.s. troop presence, but i must tell you i do believe as the ranking democrat on senate foreign relations committee, the president of the united states should have come to congress to seek authorization for american troops that are put in a combat-type situation. let me switch gears while i have you for a moment. you re the top democrat on the foreign relations committee. the former president jimmy carter has now publicly offered to travel to north korea to negotiate directly with kim jong-un. should the white house take him up on that offer? well, we need a surge in diplomacy and we ve talked about this before. i think we need to open up lines of communication. there is a path forward where we can achieve our objective of a non-nuclear korean peninsula and that the kim jong-un regime can get the type of assurances they want that the united states will respect the current 38th parallel in korea. there are ways we can talk back and forth about the use of a military threat, and i hope the president would take advantage of every opportunity to do that. well, should he take advantage of jimmy carter s offer? i know that s one opportunity. i know that secretary tillerson has looked for other avenues of communication with north korea. i think using a former president who has i think a global reputation for pursuing peace would be a helpful step. he s been an earlier visitor to north korea, brought home americans who were there as well. another sensitive issue, u.s./russian relations, senator. we re told that president trump may sit down with the russian president vladimir putin on what s called the sidelines of the asian pacific economic conference, the economic summit that takes place next month in vietnam. do you believe that would be appropriate, the right thing to do? 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what s the timeline for all of this? reporter: well, first and foremost, the house, they ve got to pass the senate budget. that has to happen potentially by thursday of this week is when they ll move to do that. then they ve actually got to write the bill and produce the bill potentially as early as next week. the white house is being very bullish on the timeline. president trump wants this passed by the end of this year, and he even said he wants a bill on his desk by thanksgiving. now, that is very, very optimistic no matter how you slice it, but leaders up here are certainly raising some expectations to try to scheme that momentum going. wolf. all right, sunlen, thank you. sunlen serfaty up on capitol hill. we re back with democratic congressman ben cardin. senator, lots of pressure on republicans to deliver and get this tax cut passed. what do you think their chances are? well, i don t think it s very good when you look at the blueprint first, it blows a hole in the deficit and i know a lot of us are very concerned about adding at least $1.5 trillion to the deficit. we also are concerned that the overwhelming amount of tax relief goes to high-income families, as compared to middle-income families. they also raised the issue of cutting medicare and medicaid by $1.5 trillion. these to me are issues that will be very difficult for them to get the necessary votes to move a tax bill that is in that direction, and, quite frankly, they re using a process that is doomed to i think fail if they do not really make a bipartisan effort to have a broader coalition so that a tax bill can enjoy broader support and is one even if it were to become law, would be able to remain a law more than just one term of congress. all right. let me just point out that the president has told his budget director mick mulvaney exactly what he s told the american public, there will be absolutely no cuts to what are called entitlement programs, social security, medicare, and medicaid. mulvaney is fighting him on that, but the president so far is holding firm. why do you say the president will support cuts in medicare and medicaid? well, if you look at the budget resolution that passed the united states senate, also the resolution that passed the house of representatives, it very much provides for cuts in medicare and medicaid. so the implementing legislation that provides for the consideration of the tax bill envisions that there would be cuts in these programs. i hear what the president said, but i must tell you we find over and over again what he said in order to protect some of the critical programs such as medicare and medicaid, we then look at his actions. look what he did on the affordable care act. he supported programs that cut medicaid dramatically, so the president s actions are inconsistent with his words. your colleague, republican senator orrin hatch, told the washington post, i ll read it to you, quote, i think the democrats are crazy to not try and deal with him directly. seven years ago, he was a democrat. doesn t take any brains to realize that he d be open. is tax reform something democrats should be working directly with the president on? we absolutely want to work with republicans. we want to work with this administration. we recognize that our tax code needs changes. our requirements are pretty simple. let s make sure we don t finance it by borrowing more money and going greater into debt. let s make sure the focus is on middle-income families. they re the one who s need the tax relief and let s use a truly bipartisan process. if you do that, yes, absolutely, democrats want to be part of the process because we believe there is a need for change in our tax code. senator ben cardin, thanks very much. thank you. coming up, as tensions grow with kim jong-un, is the trump administration s tough talk on north korea making a military conflict all the more likely? stay with us. you re in the situation room. 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this is such a sensitive issue, especially for those gold-star families. oh, 100%. look, wolf, i can see how now, we know sort of the contours of the conversation between the president and mrs. johns johnson in the first instance and you can understand how he might have said the words that might have been reported and she might have interpreted them completely differently than he meant them. let s just stipulate that. but now we know how she interpreted them, this 24-year-old widow, whose husband, a green beret, had just died in the service of his country under circumstances she still doesn t know and we still don t know. you would think that the president would cut her some slack. you would think that the president would say, you know, if my words in some way were received in ways i didn t mean them, i m so sorry, i, you know, i and the whole country grieve for you and with you. wouldn t that be the right thing to do? but that s not donald trump. for donald trump, it s always about him and he s never wrong and he can t admit mistakes, even if this case when it is so clearly the right thing to do. and i think it hurts him and obviously hurt her, but it hurts him as well. it diminishes him. it diminishes the office of the presidency. i think most people in the country would have wished that he handled it much differently. you know, chris, he said several opportunities today. there were cameras, photo-ops, in the rose garden he easily could have opened up. he had the visiting prime minister of singapore with them. before they got to that, he could have opened up with a statement. he didn t have to wait for reporters to shout questions at the end which he ignored, but he could have easily opened up. i d like to begin, we ll get to this with a statement expressing his deep regret, his sorrow on the fact that this widow, this gold-star widow apparently misunderstood what he was trying to convey. yeah, it s not that he couldn t do it, it s that he doesn t want to do it. we heard out of the white house today, you know, don t expect there is not going to be another call to myesha johnson. david axelrod s point, i think is the most important one, which calling a widow of an american soldier killed in action is extremely difficult. it s emotionally difficult. you know there is not a good way to do it. you can t practice for it. donald trump was never in politics before. he s never done anything like this. the politics of getting along, finding a good place to be with the widow of an american killed in action is way easier. if there was a misunderstanding, just call her. now there is too much water under the bridge now candidly, but just call her and say, you know what, this is hard for me. i know it s not nearly as hard for me as it is for you. if i expressed myself inarticulately, i apologize. if what i said isn t what you heard. because guess what? the president of the united states is supposed to take the high road. it s not about whose right. this woman lost her husband. just say, you know what, i get it if there was a misunderstanding. i m sorry for it and we honor his sacrifice. the end. look, it s one thing for the president to get in a tit for tat with a democratic congresswoman who is a politician and signed up to be in this arena, a down and dirty political arena. it s a whole other thing what we saw today. a commander in chief criticizing the widow of somebody who died in service to the country that the commander in chief is the head of, is the leader of, is just mind-boggling and it doesn t surprise me that the president didn t say anything. i actually think that was not a not a bad thing, you know, for him to just try to stop talking about it. and they sent the chairman of the joint chiefs out, who had a very measured, very calm, very lengthy back and forth with reporters and answered as much as he said that he could knowing that there are a lot of unknowns about the mission. that is what matters. the mission. what happened? why did this man die in the first place and three others as well? the problem, though, is dana s exactly right. i thought general dunford is what you want to be the face of this if you re the trump administration. the problem, as always, is donald trump. and more specifically, donald trump s twitter feed. so, yeah, he didn t take questions that were shouted at him today. not a bad idea. if he hadn t sent a tweet out this morning effectively saying this person is not telling the truth. if he doesn t take to twitter tomorrow or the next day and say more about this, this is now day eight of this back and forth. i would argue to dana s point he made it worse today with the engaging with the widow and essentially saying her version of events isn t how it happened. there is nothing if past is prolog, there is no reason to think that donald trump will suddenly become sort of quiet on this or anything else, and that s always his biggest problem. if you left it with general dunford, that would be one thick, but he doesn t ever leave well enough alone. it s one thing to get into this to react via twitter to this widow, this wonderful woman who just lost a husband and has two kids, another one on the way. another thing he did yesterday to go after the democratic congresswoman in a tweet. whacky congresswoman wilson is the gift that keeps on giving for the republican party. disaster for dems. watch her in action and vote. he goes after her. that s one thing, as dana correctly points out, but it s another thing to dispute what this widow said. all right. stand by. much more coming up right after this. your insurance company your toughest questions right away- with volatility, it s all about your risk distribution. good to know. thanks, mike. we got your back kate. does he do that all the time? oh yeah, sometimes he pops out of the couch. help from real traders. only with td ameritrade. you or joints. something for your heart. but do you take something for your brain. with an ingredient originally found in jellyfish, prevagen is the number one selling brain-health supplement in drug stores nationwide. prevagen. the name to remember. and the highest income level found a doctor that would say that they had a bone spur. that is wrong. that is wrong. a doctor who would say that they had a bone spur. now, that was significant. as you know, donald trump during the vietnam war had five deferments, including one after a doctor diagnosed that he had bone spurs in his foot. what was your reaction to that? my reaction was i don t think that the reference was coincidental. you know, look, i think there is no there is no there is no mystery that these guys don t get along. dating back to when donald trump denigrated senator mccain s military service, saying he prefers somebody who didn t get captured. we all know senator mccain spent five terrible years in the captivity of the north vietnamese. and now senator mccain has been critical of the commander in chief. he made a speech in philly this week when he was accepting the liberty medal, really challenging the president s world view, but the president responded by saying, well, if he doesn t essentially if he doesn t stop criticizing me, i m going to fight back. and what he learned i think in this interview or through this interview is, don t don t get into a taunting war with a guy who spent five years in the hanoi hilton and is facing a mortal illness because he s not scared of you. no. he s not worried about you, okay? and i think this was senator mccain s way of saying, you know what, i m done with you. and, look, david mentioned that john mccain was a prisoner of war for 5 1/2 years in vietnam during the vietnam war. when he came back, part of what he did before he actually ended up leaving the navy was he went to the naval war college to study exactly why and how america got into the vietnam war and how they went so wrong. so what he was talking about there i think was for a larger project on vietnam, but it was after a lot of scholarly intake that he has done, which i think the reason i m bringing this up is because it s just another kind of data point on how different an experience john mccain has had and why his world view is the way it is, and there is no question that he chose that example as a dig to donald trump. don t forget, the president during the campaign said john mccain was not a hero because he was a p.o.w. and a prisoner. it took him almost two years to get back at him, but he found away. i remember july 2015 when it happened, i basically thought, well, that s it. you know, donald trump it was right after he announced his campaign. he was at a forum in aims, iowa, and said that. p.o.w.s tend not to be people that you should attack. right. whether it s john mccain or anyone else. it was a first indicator that donald trump s appeal did not play by traditional rules. but, gentlemen, mccain the long arc of history got to that health care vote and now this. all right. guys, there is a lot more coming up, including the growing tensions between the united states and north korea. president trump says he s prepared right now for anything. is a military conflict looming? building a website in under an hour is easy with gocentral. and you can too. build a better website - in under an hour. with gocentral from godaddy. we re following new developments as tensions grow between the united states and north korea. president trump says the u.s. is, prepared for anything. is a military conflict becoming more likely? cnn s brian todd is joining us with the latest. brian, what are you learning? wolf, tonight there s real concern among well-connected people here in washington that an armed conflict with north korea is becoming more likely. the talk from the trump administration in recent weeks has only grown tougher and neither they nor kim jong-un s regime seem able to back down from it. as tensions build with north korea s volatile leader, new concerns tonight about whether the trump administration is talking itself into a possible conflict with kim jong-un. president trump kept up the tough talk in an sbrinterview w the fox business network. we re prepared for anything. we have are so prepared like yo wouldn t believe. you would be shocked to see how totally prepared we are if we need to be. would it be nice not to do that? the answer is yes. will that happen? who knows. reporter: the president s comments follow other remarks from his national security team in recent weeks. indicating a tougher tone on north korea. cia director mike pompeo warning about pyongyang s rapidly advancing threat of a nuclear-tipped missile that could hit the u.s. it s now a matter of thinking about thinking about how do you stop the final step? reporter: and the latest warning from secretary of state rex tillerson that diplomatic efforts to solve this crisis might fail. those diplomatic efforts will continue until the first bomb drops. reporter: the tough talk extends back at least to august, when trump spoke like no president ever has when addre addressing north korea s threats. they will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen. i do think it s pretty stunning that the u.s. president speaks about openly going to war with north korea because as you know, conflict is unimaginable in the korean peninsula. reporter: some say trump s been placed in a position no other american president ever has by the aggression of his young adversary. some of this is also on kim jong-un, right? absolutely. we have seen multiple nuclear tests, tests of a hydrogen bomb. not just a fission bomb. icbm tests over japan. nobody has done this before certainly from north korea. reporter: tonight another key strategic question, will president trump visit the heavily fortified dmz as other american presidents have when he travels to asia next month? it could also really stoke the fires and kim jong-un is very unpredictable. if he doesn t go, on the other hand, it looks like either we re making a concession to north korea are making it look like president trump is somehow not your typical president. a senior white house official tells cnn a trump visit to the dmz has not been ruled out but the timing for may not be quite right because the president is scheduled to visit a u.s. military installation at about the same time. white house officials say they re not concerned about any message the president might be sending, if he doesn t visit the dmz. wolf? all right, brian, thanks very much. we ll see what he does. coming up, there s breaking news. the chairman of the joints chief says the american people and the families of the fallen are owed an explanation for the ambush in niger that killed four u.s. soldiers. so why is the pentagon still offering few details about the deadly clash? 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dangerous and it s really the lack of visibility. we can barely see 100 yards in either direction and obviously with the winds blowing at this speed if there is debris flying through the air i don t want to be out in the middle of that and get caught up side the head by some flying branch or anything like that reporter: hold on one second, ed. stay where you are. stay where you are right now because some of these big trees are surrounding this hotel. i don t know if they re going to make it. they re starting to creep out. look, the palm tree is an extraordinary piece of vegetation. there s no question about it. they re built to bend. there are a lot of trees that aren t that and they re starting to split and fail under the strain on them and we ve been watching it and the concern is that these trees are going to go into the structures across and while they may not look physically impressive to you, we re talking about thousands and thousands of pounds and even more of that force if they do fall into those buildings. some of them have storm shutters, some of them do not. the wind is picked up by a significant, significant factor here from what it was just a little while ago. so we ve been watching this to make sure that the way those go is going to make a big difference. we re safe where we are here in terms of what might come on us. it may not look that way, but it is otherwise i wouldn t be here. but these gusts, this is intense what is coming down these corridors right now. and you can see it behind me and chad was right, the picture s tell the story. but where this wind goes and where it takes all this debris, those are the areas that are going to need the most help and so it s important to site it as its happening and we ve seen trying to stay out of the way, out of the way of these gusts while doing the best that we can to just keep an eye on the situation, so that once it passes, we know where to go. i don t have to tell you, you ve been doing the job as such a high level as such a long time. you serve different functions. one is to be the eyes and ears for the audience on the ground in a situation like this to arrest the sense of curiosity. once the first responders have to kick in and do their job, very often we re telling them where things happened from our own observations. and this is certainly going to size up to one of those situations, because they can t get out right now. they ve had to hunker down. ed is down below me. we re a team on this. he s been watching equal intensity from a different perspective down on the ground and ed, let me know when you can come back to me in terms of what you re seeing with the flooding and whether it s making an appreciable difference to these surrounding buildings by us. this is somewhat of a commercial area where we are now. there are residences as you get into the four, five, six blocks away where we are, as you get closer into the water, there are residences along the water. we don t give a damn about property in a situation like this. we re about protecting life and that s what all the precautions were about. but you ve got mega, mega mansions town there. the governor has one. we re talking 10, $15 million homes and they were built close to the water and as beautiful as that is, it s equally as dangerous. remarkable that this tree is standing. i m watching it split in realtime but it s getting there. ed, what are you seeing down where you are? let me step out of this. reporter: i m going to take a quick little step out oh, man. a quick little step out so you can get a sense of just how quickly the water is moving through here on the street. this is the the most severe gusts it s pushing through. you can see the water. we can t even see 50 yards any more to our right. the amount of water that s being pushed along the street and filling up here and we understand one of the higher areas here in downtown naples. the water in other parts of the neighborhoods that we were able to survey this morning and throughout the day yesterday have to be an incredibly dangerous situation. the good news we reported over the last days that many of the people here in naples evacuated this area. we didn t see but a handful of people out and about throughout the day yesterday so that is a good sign because what is left behind as you mentioned, it s just property and the intensity of it and the flooding in this situation remember, this part of naples is surrounded by water on all sides, so it s not just the gulf waters that will be of concern, it s going to be the river to the side to the eastside of town here as well as the canals and the homes through there, all of that water getting pushed up. this is just one little spot as you look down here on the street in downtown naples, just how quickly the water can pull up in various areas so you can imagine in some of the lower lying areas just how horrible the flooding situation is going to be. we continue to look here off to our our east to make sure we re well protected here. everything structurally from what i can tell seeps to be holding on. i have never experienced the intensity of this kind of hurricane with the winds cutting down visibility the way it has which makes the situation even that much more disconcerting. it is incredibly intense here as we approach and get close to the eye of this storm, making and passing over naples here but it is quickly going to turn from a wind and structural story to this flooding story. here comes another gust. whoa. can you see this, dave? so now we re getting it in full effect up here. ed it s not it s not slowing down any more, so this has to be what chad was talking about where it s just it just keeps coming. just keep coming. it just looks like it looks like some type of sideways cyclone that s coming down here with these gusts. i ll tell you, ed, me, we re not going to move that easily in a storm. we re both bigger guys and this could easily knock you off your feet. i ll tell you what, it s such an easier task to be here than so many of the people who are with this storm, with this family, with young kids and they re inside and they have to be praying to god that this just leaves them untouched and they get past and that s the biggest concern. for us right now we re fine. this is very dramatic picture as chad said it and it s accurate picture, it s true. but your heart has to go out to the families. you re watching this coverage, if you re not in florida, if you are in florida, god bless you and we hope that everybody s okay, and you re safe and you have the supplies you need. this will pass. it s going to take longer than usual but it will pass. but if you re watching this from some where else, we ll see what their needs are afterwards, but this this is something that they re going to remember for a really long time and hopefully there is a measure i hope of gross inaccuracy of the net effect of this storm. i hope that it is more drama than it is impact and that the places that have been touched from the caribbean now up into florida and what happens in states north, west and a little bit east of here winds up being less than we expect. but for now that big that big part has passed. there s bane a little bit of an alleviation. it s gusting that way now but it s not as sustained as it was. there was about five minutes there where it just wasn t letting up and the good news is, this one big patch of trees that i ve been watching here that i was really worried about going into the apartment building across, it hasn t happened. i know chad myers is about to jump in my ear and say don t count your chickens. i understand, but you take good results where you find them in a situation like this and so far the integrity of these big trees, these 200 foot trees, chad, so far i ve been seeing some separation in them, not the palms. you know what i m talking about, these other old growth trees, they ve been splitting, but they haven t failed yet. they haven t collapsed yet and if they can make it through this phase, maybe we ll get lucky here. but i have to tell you, ed, is a pro as you know and he s been in a lot of these. i ve been in many but less than he to be sure and you to be sure, but there is something unique about what we re getting hit with right now. maybe you can put some words and science to it for us. the only word i have, chris, is eye wall. you are in the northern eye wall. you are going to within the next ten, 15 minutes be inside the eye. you may be able to look up and see the sky with not a cloud in it and then be waiting for another hour or hour and 20 minutes and get the wind from the other direction and that s many times where a lot of the damage comes from because the trees have already bent one way and then all of a sudden they have to bend the other way as well as arizona well. this is as bad as this storm has been, truly, in america. this is what the people of sugarland, this is what the people of cudjoe key, this is what the people of pig pibig pis morning, this is what they felt, as this storm went straight over the lower keys. it stays off-shore, it gained a little strength but not much and then it made landfall about 30 minutes ago, the eye wall doing 130 miles per hour when it hit marco and i bet you just had 130. nothing to boast about but that storm is still very strong. not losing any intensity, really, whatsoever. reporter: it comes down to duration. tell me this, when does the storm surge component kick in and what do we look for there? the storm surge comes in after the center of the eye moves by and the bubble of water moves under the eye itself and pushes on to land. now this is opposite of what we expect when an eye makes landfall on an east coast, this is a west coast, so the west coast now has the no water on the north and the water slam storm surge on the south side of the eye. water s been pulled out of tampa bay, pulled out of port charlotte and all the luck up to the north and in 20 minutes when the eye goes by you, the eye wall, you re going to get eye and then you re going to get the other side that marco island is already getting. marco getting the storm surge flooding and we are seeing that flash flood emergency for marco island proper. ten to 15 foot surge on top of places that were completely dry. honestly, the ocean bottom was exposed four feet or so, the ocean bottom was exposed. you could see the sand, you could see the fish, you could see the coral and the sponge and now all of a sudden that s going to be covered with ten to 15 feet of water. chris, i am seeing you, can you hear me and can you go? reporter: oh, no, i have you. i was just testing out these hurricane specs that you told me not to waste the money on. you were right. so chad, what do we do when that storm surge comes in? what s the best way to help what is going to be the list of immediate needs for the people there and, you know, god willing, they can hear us. we re running on battery power here. the hotel s out, all the lights are out in the surrounding area. in fact, i don t see anything lit up. they had kept the lights on here. i don t see them any more. for people who are there and hopefully hunkered down go ahead. what happens here on marco and other islands, city islands that are on up the coast, that would have an awful lot of homes on canals and many of those homes are less than three to five feet above the canal on a regular day, now all of a sudden there will be five or ten feet of water on top of their grass and so therefore in their home. and the surge with the push of the water, push of the wind, think of this water moving at 60 or 70 miles per hour being pushed along by winds that are 120 miles per hour, that water will knock things down a lot quicker than the wind will knock things down. water has so much more force. now, to answer your first question, what do you do? you get eddie and that crew off the street because that s where the water is going to go. you likely will be fine, second, third floor, but get everybody off the street. chris, go ahead if you can hear me. reporter: chad, can you still hear me? yes, i can. i can see your pictures very well, chris. so just start talking. reporter: i can t hear any more. led me go to ed if you can if you can hear me, pick up the coverage for me. we just had a huge gust here and it blue out my ife and i don t hear anything so pick it up if you can. reporter: no problem, chris. we re down on the street here in downtown naples and to give you the continued since of as this the eye of this hurricane gets closer and closer here to naples, i ve tucked in behind a wall here to protect us from the worst of the wind. it s just too much. there s no visibility. if we can get to look down here on the street, the number of palm trees that are just blowing down the street and that s obviously a major concern for us because with such little visibility, you can t stand out here in this, there s no reason too. you can t see anything flying around. as we stand here a little bit more than an hour, we have endurds these kinds of wind, this kind of rain, we re still not quite at the at the eye of the storm here which we anticipate will be coming much, much closer and we will continue to monitor that. so it is a situation that is clearly deteriorating and after more than an hour of enduring this you really start to have to ask yourself, we re in downtown naples and the situation here in the buildings and the structures that were surrounded by are strong and from anything that i can tell from our vantage point, in these times of situations, we ll be honest with everybody, it s limited. we do not have the ability right now to venture out into the city by any means and get a sense of how the rest of the structures are withstanding the storm. we can tell you what we see here around us. there is outdoor concert venue here and it has a soft tarp over it. i ve been watching that for the last 35 minutes. i m amazed that that has not come peeling apart here with these winds that we ve seen. i thought for sure that that would start unbuckling as it is tied down here but what is simply stunning is how little visibility. we re down to maybe 100 yards of visibility here which makes this even more treacherous and as we ve approached this and endured this for more than the last hour, really makes you wonder in the rest of the area homes that are not as structurally sound as the areas in the buildings that you see here around me, really makes you wonder, can the homes, can the other buildings around this part of naples and southwest florida, can it continue to withstand this kind of intensity for as long as it has and there s still more to come. there s no question and a concern that we have here. reporter: all right, ed. i ll take it from you right now. i was i was a little overly optimistic in terms of the worst being through. i was hoping that s what that was before but she s back. and it is a big blow that s coming through here and again as you were seeing down there at ground level chad, this is the real deal coming through here, but so far this tree line is holding and stoz important for these surrounding structures, chad in terms of what they can do to things as you know. we know what happens when these big branches blow off with this kind of energy behind them. we ve been seeing it about this way now for about 35 minutes or so. and everywhere around us, it s the same. it s actually looks actually worse in areas that are a little bit west of us here. the trees that were there that i was using as markers before are gone, so chad, what are you seeing on the radar in terms of where we are from that most severe band that went over the island not too long ago? you are about four miles from where there is no more rainfall, so therefore the inner part of the eye wall, four miles away. now if we do the math at 12 miles per hour, you re still in this or maybe something slightly less than this for another 20 minutes, so it s that duration thing you talked about, how long are people going to be in this when they re in their homes in the dark. this is a completely different animal in the day light. when you are in your home and you hear things go bumping and you have no idea, because it s dark and you have no power, and you don t have air-conditioning and you don t have any communication with any of the outside world because the cell towers already gone down, that s when it truly is going to be a very difficult night for the people from sara sota, into tampa because they re going to live with this as will with. maybe less, maybe 115 because, chris, i think you just had 130. reporter: all right. whatever it is, it is. but here s what i can tell you, chad, as you know we re all pros. we are in the cover of a hotel. the crew is good. photojournalist is good. i m good. ed and i are built for this. it s not easy but i ll tell you what, it s a hell of a lot easier for us than it is for people that chad was just talking about. god forbid you re with your family and having to live through something like this, our hearts, our thoughts are with those people. it s a big reason why we do this coverage. we ll be here just as we saw with harvey. there s going to be need and we know that this community will come together. we saw it before the storm. it sounds trite but it s true. the worst of mother nature brings out the best in human nature and that s going to be needed here in florida in big, big portions and living through this part of it makes those of us who god willing won t be adversely effected by it feel interconnected to those who are going to be effected by it because, ed, from where you are down there right now, this is going to be something where everybody s going to have to count their blessings after this one goes through. where is it where you are right now? how is it down there? reporter: hey, chris, seconds after i tossed back to you just moments ago, heard a large crash about 15 yards off to my side, part of the rooftop, these are the spanish tiles of the rooftop that were on just came crashing down about three stories off the ground, crashed down on the ground around us. this is exactly what landed on the ground around us. as i was mentioning and while we were talking and the fortification and the structural soundness of the buildings that we re in that we felt really good about, not to say it won t endure any kind of damage, but if these shingles and these tiles are coming off the roof, here on these really strong buildings, you can imagine what it must be like in the neighborhoods and the areas surrounding closest to where we are and closest to the wall of the eye of this hurricane. so highly dangerous situation as some of these tiles just flying off the roof, crashing down here on the ground next to us and as we mentioned, we re protected and tucked away an area here and that s why you see on camera that we re not getting blown around as much. we re not going to stand out there any longer as the wall in the eye of this hurricane approaches closer to where we are, but this is it. just landing on the ground and you can imagine all the other kind of debris that is flying around out there as this storm makes it way toward us, chris. reporter: wlrt. we got to make it through this phase and then we have to deal with what chad was explaining earlier as the redistribution of the energy, when the wind comes around the other direction and brings that storm surge, then you get another phase of this. and you also get a different dynamic just in terms of the mechanics of what it does to the surrounding structures and foliage. chad, weigh in on this if i get it wrong, i remember it from you, which is everything s that s been fighting to stay up in one way is now going to get hit at its weakest angle the other way when the energy redistributes and the wind starts coming from another way, accurate or no? accurate. the other thing to talk about is how powerful water is and if you get a surge of ten to 15 feet in that area, homes will be lost. the building itself will be lost whereas a wind event, you can hide from it, you lose shingles, you may lose a sheet of plywood from your roof, but you won t lose your home. if you get hit by this storm surge that s still to come, that s when you lose things. officially, i said 1:30, national weather service out of naples airport just had 1:31, 18 minutes ago. you were in it, 1:31. i hope that s as bad as it gets. you re now beginning to get to a slightly inner core of the storm itself and now slightly less in wind and in 20 minutes it may very well be calm. reporter: from your lips to god ears, when you take a look at the map, where are we in terms of that? is that what you re showing everybody right now? yes, naples manner which is about four miles south of you is already in the eye. they re in good shape. golden gate. you re getting hit, honestly. this is one of the neighborhoods that s really getting slammed to your west, probably still 131 for them. naples down to 115 and 110 it is going down from here as we get you closer and closer to the eye now less than probably 15 minutes before you ll see all the palm fronds just fall down to the ground or just limp down to the side of the tree because the wind will go to near zero. reporter: so that s what we have coming our way and that s good to know from those who are monitoring it. we know we have a lot of people in florida who are watching this. we re thinking about you. we hope you took the right precautions. we hope that you re still able to follow the coverage. if you see us able to be doing what we re doing, hopefully, the structure that you re in is going to be just fine and what we ve been watching around us as dramatic as it is, hopefully it is not as dangerous as it is dramatic. so far this tree line is holding here and these buildings are still protected that are around us, less so on the other side and you see things blowing around in the air here, a little bit of wizard of oz style, they re fairly small pro-jeck tielgz at this point, not the kinds of things that i ve seen do damage in the past. that s a good sign as well but again, there is no cause for false optimism. we ll have to see what happens on the backside of this storm and with the storm surge as chad has been coaching us all along, the wind is dramatic. there s no question about that. there s a danger component to it, but it is water that kills. it s drowning that takes peoples lives in hurricanes and storm surge is not just powerful, but lasting. so we re going to have to stee. i keep going back to timing, chad, because especially when you re in it, that s just your natural reaction to it from an endurance standpoint, is how much longer, how much longer and the scary part is, at least from the perspective on the ground, it s how much longer there is? watching john and those correspondents, you know it s a long time and things just only have so much tolerance, whether it s a structure or a vehicle or even an infrastructure system of your roadways and your sue wang and i don t mean that just from some planning perspective, i m saying backup of sewage, homes not being able to have liveable conditions, what they cause has been tabability. that s what all this is about, it s about what all this does to their lifestyle. your perspective and your take on it so far that you re getting why the governor was so conscientious about saying we re talking about weeks here, talking about commitment from the federal government for weeks and months and in the billions in terms of what they estimated going into this. do you think they re going to wind up being justified in what they thought going into it? without a doubt. without a doubt. this storm had the punch when it was over cuba at 160 miles per hour and to the people of northern cuba we are internally grateful what happened to your country is a shame. it was the damage that created the storm to go from 160 to 130. it was a true remarkable reduction in power that our country didn t have to take and as now moving over key largo and into the keys and into collier county, all of a sudden we had a survivalable storm where 160 to 165 in some places with wind speeds there would not have been survivable. you are now getting into a much better place here, chris, you re going to get into the winds dropping off rapidly to 35, 45 miles per hour and that s the good news, but the rest of the story is that we re going from here to pelican bay to bonita springs heading up the coast with the same event that you just had there. i have a question for you, if you can hear me, i know the winds going down a little bit. i don t know if you had a chance to do any ground truth but the road that we see below you, how many feet is that above sea level? reporter: all right. chad, water s coming up the street here. i don t know if you can see it, dave show it to them. this just like is coming out of nowhere. all of a sudden this street is flooded. do you see it. absolutely. reporter: you think this is just flooding and the sewer system letting go. no, i believe that this is the bubble of water that you re about to see as the storm surge makes it s way into marco island and naples, godldengate. reporter: this came out of nowhere, chad. yes, it is. yes it did. reporter: literally we have a 1 1/2 of standing water here in literally no time flat. my producer just told me to turn around. i just turn around. we see the crane again and i turned back around and literally we re surrounded by water here and i don t mean that it s not dangerous but it s a lot of water really fast and what does this mean obviously it s deeper as you get closer, right? sure. it ll be deeper as you get closer to the gulf of mexico. there s a little barrier there from the gulf of mexico spilling over to naples into marco island but that barrier s going to be easily breached and that water will be right there. i was just curious as to how many feet up sea level that road was. i m not able to do that right now standing here at the weather board. i m thinking not ten feet above sea level, not more than that. reporter: give me a little sense of timing, again. i apologize, but again i just feel like so much of it is about duration and tolerance. what are we looking at? as this eye goes by, give me my next time component so that the people who are in parts north get a sense of proportion in terms of, you know, what kinds of waves they can look for? take a look at the palm trees and the palm fronds barely now moving, slowing down and in the eye itself the skies will begin to lighten and brighten and then all of a sudden the bubble of water that has been following along with this storm all the way through the caribbean, we saw pictures that if you didn t they are amazing in the bahamas where the water was gone from the islands and people were saying, i ve never seen this before, how did this ever happen, where did the water go? the water went with the hurricane. it did have that bubble of water, the surge water that s going to come in now and if you think a fresh water flood is bad, a saltwater flood is even worse for homes and businesses and the people that have to clean up after that saltwater flood and that s what s on its way. the surge flood, a flash flood emergency is still in effect for collier county. that means flash flooding is going to occur or is occurring and it will be life-threatening. that s where we are now. i don t know because the sfloe speed of the storm only 12-miles-per-hour how quickly that water will be five or ten or 15 feet high but it will be less than a half hour, chris, i think. reporter: all right. and that s good to hear because i m just trying to weigh different factors. the main considerations, the windows that we re looking at is when can the first responders get out. they re going to need winds that die down and not just during the eye, right, because they re all sophisticated enough to know what you re telling us right now. it just makes me wonder if we re seeing this here, what is the situation for the people if they re still in homes as we get down there towards where that surge is much closer to that ten to 15 feet that you were talking about. control room, do we have ed down there? i wonder what the water is looking like on the ground for him. do we have him? ed? reporter: i m here, chris, can you hear me we re adjusting the camera here. the winds have settled down a little bit so that gives us a little bit of opportunity to adjust and give a better perspective. that was an unreal hour and a half i suspect of intensity that we ve seen here downtown streets of naples. the winds have died down enough where we can show you what we experienced here. look that s to be expected. those tree limbs there. this is part of the this is part of the tile that came flying off the roof of the building that we re in there and now we ve gotten a little bit better view and you can really start to see a little bit of, you know, the tree damage is to be expected. as soon as all of this passes through and now it s starting to kick up again. we had a break there to give you a better perspective. but that s what we re facing there. obviously the tree damage is going to be unbelievably extensive through naples. that s to be expected. the damage to the rest of the infrastructure we re not in a position to really gauge here at this point. we re just in the process of trying to withstand and endure what this hurricane is bringing here to southwest florida. now the visibility is back which is stunning because now we can see several more hundred yards through the trees here that we ve been providing you the live picture from and you can see the flood the floodwaters and the amount of water that is collected and pocketed up in various parts of the street, that s going to be even worse on the backside of this storm as the storm surge starts coming in from the gulf side and what you ve seen there, along that main street that you re on is extensive as well and that s going to be even worse in some of the more lower lying areas. the area we re in we picked it was set up a little bit higher here in the city but in those parts where it s much more lower lying as soon as we can get to those hours in the ahead, we ll be able to report more extensively and give people a better picture of what is occurred here but the intensity of that is just unreal and it is unbelievable to describe what we have endured here for nearly two hours, chris? reporter: they re telling us that this is the eye is passing over. it doesn t feel like, chad. i thought the eye was supposed to be like this piece of calm where you look up and you see the sky or whatever it is. we re still getting hit here. i want dave to sneak out if he can now that it s not as nasty, i want to show them the storm surge and, ed, just get in my ear real quick, how far is the hotel from the marina again? i forget from when i was walking down there this morning, eight blocks? reporter: just to give a sense of proportion. reporter: there s two different bodies i can hear you, chris. there s two different bodies of water that we have to keep tabs on. on the west side of us we have the gulf of mexico. we re probably about a good eight blocks from that. that s that direction. if you look back over here toward the east about a mile or so is where that marina is and where the river that comes in on the east side of naples and that is going to be the area of real concern because that storm surge gets pushed back in there and that starts fanning its way out through the neighborhoods and so that marina s about a mile away. reporter: all right. i got you. let me get dave out here, the pj, our photojournalist part of the team just to get you down this street. big man come over here and show them down the streets. if we re eight blocks away, you go past me, dave and get down get down that street. we re eight blocks away. chad to give you some perspective on this. here s eight blocks away and this is about you look at the yellow curb here at fifth avenue south and park street and you re at about eight inches to ten inches of water, okay, right here and the buildings are fine. that part of the integrity s all right. you got your typical debris from that gusting. when you look down the street, you see that there s been breech there, at least on one side of the street. the water has gotten into the buildings and it s got to be well over a foot or so deep and that s still 6 1/2, 7 blocks from the marina. how does that fill in the blanks for you? what that is fresh water flooding. that is the rain that came down and went into the lowest part of that city and that is all fresh water. that has no content in it whatsoever because the water from the solinity, the water from the gulf of mexico has not truly arrived yet. a brand-new flash flood emergency for naples just issued about five minutes ago and so the water is still at the mean sea level right now but it is quickly rising and it will rise ten to 15 feet. this is almost waiting for a tsunami, although it won t be a tidal wave, it ll be a surge where one wave that comes up that street, if you re at the right level. i don t know what your elevation is there, but if you were at any elevation that s five feet above sea level, you will see five feet or ten feet on top of that. the one wave will come in, it ll be a wash like a wave without a crest or a curl and then that will stay and then the next wave will come in and the first one won t go away like it usually does at the sea shore. the next wave s going to come in and it won t go away and then a next wave won t go away and it won t go away and this is not what you want to do. you do not want to be out with your dog when the water s coming up. reporter: i know. chad, he s got his three legged dog, he says he s lucky. hold on. hey. hey, pal. he s walking his dog. i see you re out with the dog again. [ inaudible ]. reporter: you got to get back inside, pal. we got the backside of the storm still to come. the surge isn t here yet. please get back in. i ll come find you after. now most of the people here, chad, there s a lot of media. the good news is, they believe that most of who needed to evacuate did. we saw that local last night. nice guy. three legged dog. he s one of these salty types. been here for a long time. he knows what to worry about. he s probably thinking what i was, chad, which is all right, so here s that surge they were telling us about. it wasn t as bad. you re saying we haven t even seen it yet. that this is just like a little bit this is just a little bit of an vantage. this is a little bit of a runway for this surge. it can just follow this water. isn t that going to make it easier for the surge to penetrate if there s already if it s already liquid all the way up the road? absolutely, no question. this now ground is already saturated, not that it was going to soak in at all any way, but the surge coming we ll see this rain that is now going to mix with the saltwater just continue to make the flooding worse. reporter: let me interrupt you for one second. do me a favor. keep talking people through about what s going to happen next. i m going to go down to the street level so we can figure out, you know, what this means and i can get a better set of eyes for you on the road. dave s going to keep giving you the shot. i ll be out of it for a second. i ll be right back in a minute, okay. fair enough. here s what i would like to show you, for any one who s still in naples. let s come back to the weather wall here on camera one. all of a sudden the spike from the naples tidal gauge is here, the spike that we anticipated for the entire day has now arrived. it s because the eye wall itself has gone by all of the forces of the wind that pushing the water out, all those forces are now gone and so therefore, the eye itself will begin to bring the water back up and when you get on the backside of the eye, that s when the water is going to spike. i guess we cannot get this shot right now but i will get it to you. i promise because it s an impressive spike in the tidal gauge right here at naples. we ll get to this right after this break. think about healthcare? 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well, chris, honestly, the backside is coming. we know it is and if you venture out for 15 feet to let your dog do some duty, that s okay but i don t want you walking down to the ocean for sure and seeing what s going on there because that s where the water s coming from and as the backside of the eye comes in the wind shift direction and the reason why you never saw water in your harbor today because of the wind direction and when the wind changes direction, all of that water in the harbor is going to come back and it s going to come back way surge of ten to 15 feet higher than you ve ever seen above sea level before. so this is a big surge for many people that have never ever experienced this type of thing. other than st. louis, which had a 24 foot, 26 foot storm surge, very rarely any place else has ever seen ten to 15 feet. reporter: so if i m eight blocks from the gulf contact here with naples, what do you think the chances that they get water coming this way? because this would be the main artery, this is a road that goes right down to the water s edge. this is where the marina is, am i right about that? chuck, chuck this road, if we follow it all the way down, how close to the marina, to the water do you get? from here to the water is about a mile and this would be a straight conduit awe the way to it? yes, sir. how many feet above sea level do you think? about five feet right here. reporter: you think you re five feet above sea level right here? chad do you hear me. yes, the water s coming. the water isn t coming like a tsunami. reporter: you think the water is going to come to where we are? i do. especially when the wind blows it that way as well. not only is there a swell under the storm itself but there s going to be wind to project it to move it your way and it will propel all the way up that street if that is a straight shot to the ocean because that s the direction the wind is going to be coming from. reporter: so, chuck, chad says if we re about five feet that that storm surge that sucked the water out of the bay down there, that it s going to be coming at least this far where s your house? i live in houston. i just endured from hurricane harvey. reporter: you re here hanging out and you got a big knife on your hip. so the water s going to come this far at least and that s something to remember and, no, we will not venture down there and you do see people coming out. there s curiosity, obviously. you have a lot of local here s and store owners who we were talking to before the storm. they were worried, chad. people worry about their businesses. they worry about their livelihood and there is a temptation to want to get out as soon as possible. there s also a ton of media and you hope the people you see out early are just media. but you do feel that it can come to where we are, huh? no question about it. let s just project this a little bit forward to others in the path. what we showed on television just 30 minutes ago is already and still happening north of you, so i know it looks like oh, it s over, well, yes, it s over where you are but it is not over for bonita springs. you are in it right now. naples park which is about ten miles north of you in it right now in the northern eye wall and that eye wall again will continue all the way to sarasota, all the way to anna maria until it either dies out because of contact with dry land or it goes back out into the ocean and kind of stays with us all the way to tampa and hills brou. what is that car doing? reporter: it s about what you re choosing, chad, on that menu of suck that hurricane irma is bringing our way. you have the you have those winds and all that drama but then you have that storm surge which is of acute concern to all of these different pockets of communities on the west coast because that s what can create not just a second phase because it gets you with that surprise effect but that is what create the real property damage and the real threats to locking people in place. absolutely, it s the water that will kill you. we call it a storm surge. what it is is a flash flood and it s a 15 foot flash flood that comes from the ocean and clearly these people didn t know about it or don t know about it. chris, i have a question for you, you have a cell phone on you. your phone is working? reporter: yeah. my whole pocket is filled with water. what do you want to know? did you ever today get an alert on your phone that said flash flood emergency in your area? reporter: no. my phone my phone is not not 100%, chad and not surprising because i got it in my pocket during a hurricane. i get it. we didn t get any alerts. if it weren t for you i wouldn t have known what that was. to me i would ve thought it was the storm surge because that water came out of nowhere but you told me it was flash flood and i don t want to have death by escalade here. that was that standing water and now it s gone almost as fast as it came. my question to you is how about the storm surge, will that go as quickly as it comes? what are the factors that go into that? the surge will last as long as the water pushes it on land and certainly that surge will be where you are, i believe. if you re only five feet above sea level then you will be standing in water up to your waist if not more and i know you ll get out of there before that, but i would say that s going to last at least three to four hours. now, we think about look how calm the water is other than the cadillac just driving through it, that water that comes in is not going to be calm because it s going to be pushed by a gust of 110 miles per hour, so there will be waves on top of that ten foot surge as soon as it gets into that downtown. i don t have any contact with marco island right now. i have tried. i have looked. i haven t seen because they would ve already been seeing this surge. it would be there. it will be. it is there right now. i just don t know how bad it is. the same surge that we saw with katrina, even though katrina was only a cat three, cat four at
prospect of flynn entering a plea is not unexpected and, quote: no one should draw the conclusion that this means anything about general flynn cooperating against the president. instead, they believe any charges against flynn will likely be related to his lobbying work on behalf of turkey and have nothing to do with the president or russia. some legal experts are also suggesting that even if michael flynn had damaging evidence against the president, there are real questions about his credibility. given the potential charges against flynn including false statements, you know, his credibility is suspect. and i m not trying to run down a guy who served his country for years. but ultimately, when you have to look at as a prosecutor to put him on the witness stand against those charges, they re going to need some corroborating evidence to support his testimony going forward if he agrees to cooperate. reporter: and the fact that flynn s attorneys have ended their information-sharing agreement with the president s legal team could mean a number of different things. most likely, it means flynn is cooperating with investigators and in the process of trying to cut a deal, or it means that he s preparing to plead guilty to forthcoming charges possibly in order to protect his son who is also under investigation. rick: and, garrett, you briefly mentioned turkey. what more do we know about some of the work that michael flynn did for the turkish government? reporter: federal records show he was paid more than half a million dollars, and the wall street journal reports that included a documentary about a cleric who now lives in the united states. the turkish government blames him for a failed coup in the country s capital and has called for him to be extradited back to ankara. flynn s consulting firm tried to mask its role in that documentary, and this latest example is just one part of a larger probe by federal investigators to determine if flynn improperly hid financial ties to both turkey and russia. rick? rick: garrett tenney in washington, thank you. reporter: you got it. rick: right now authorities investigating the cause of a massive explosion at a factory overseas, at least two people were killed. what we know so far. plus, egypt in mourning after gunmen killed hundreds of worshipers inside a mossing. mosque. what it means for the evolving fight on terror. we know that isis wants to carry out attack across egypt. they d like to see civil war. egypt is a big prize for them. 97 million people, they d love to get a foothold. e direct ther. the only remote controlled tens device that s drug free, wire free for deep penetrating lower back pain relief. get aleve direct therapy. now $10 off with a coupon at walgreens. do you want clean, stain free dentures? try polident. the four in one cleaning system kills 99.99% of odor causing bacteria, cleans where brushing may miss. helps remove stains and prevent stain build up. use polident daily. palestinians standing with egypt as it reels from an assault on a mosque that killed more than be 00 people 300 people, the deadliest terror attack in modern egyptian history. here s what it looked like in the west bank with palestinians showing solidarity with the victims and sending a message of defiance to those responsible. the palestinian figures and factions are cominged the to show sympathy with the families and to send their condolences to the families of the victims. but at the same time, to have a stand against the terror which is trying to shake egypt. rick: conor powell has the latest from jerusalem. reporter: rick, as egyptians marked a weekend of mourning for the 305 people that were killed on friday, egyptian authorities are starting to get a better picture of what exactly happened in the small village. according to locals, isis militants have regularly threatened the mod rate sufi muslim community, warning them not to cooperate with egyptian security forces. sufi muslims are despised by extremists and viewed by groups like al-qaeda and isis as apostates. around noon on friday, more than two dozen well-armed militants waving isis flags attacked the mosque first setting off a bomb and then gunning down many of the 500 or so worshipers who were trying to flee to safety. [speaking in native tongue] translator: the assailants were targeting anybody and everybody, anybody who was bleeding. reporter: egyptian president el city city vowed this weekend that the attack would not go unpunished, and the egyptian military launched airstrikes in the mountains of the sinai desert. for three years, president sisi has promised to end the wave of violence unleashed by isis. this attack shows how easily isis, though, is able to operate in the sinai desert and just how ineffective egyptian security forces are. rick? rick: conor powell reporting. president trump being blamed for the obamacare rate hike by some. is that fair? details on the increase in place before his term began. and why one expert is saying you can get those cyber monday deals throughout the holiday season. in the past, people would wait until they got to work to do their shopping because they wanted their employer s high-speed internet. now your cell phone is just as fast as your employer s computer, so that s going to be dispersed over the holiday shopping period. yet there ll be good sales on cyber monday. with advil s fast relief, you ll ask, what pulled muscle? what headache? nothing works faster to make pain a distant memory. advil liqui-gels and advil liqui-gels minis. what pain? you ve probably seen me running all over the country in search of our big idaho potato truck. but not any more. i am done with that. ooh, ooh hot - just gonna stay home on the farm, eat a beautiful idaho potato, and watch tv with my dog. tv anncr: the big idaho potato truck pulled into town today and it s really a sight to see. oh man.let s go.. (distant) you comin , boy? sfx: (dog) gulp! woof. rick: online retailers are ready to slash prices as we re just hours away from the start of cyber monday. and now we re hearing those companies may be willing to let the good times roll. i think cyber monday s exciting. i think what s cool though is we re actually going to see sales throughout december. so i don t think if you miss something on cyber monday, don t lose hope. i think retailers are going to keep the momentum going all the way through december. rick: cyber monday comes as online stores hope to duplicate the record-breaking success they had this year on black friday when consumers reportedly smashed internet sales by about a billion dollars. health insurance premiums are soar ising for 2018 soaring for 2018, democrats blaming president trump for the hikes, but these increases were expected long before president trump with us lekkedded was elected. dan springer reports. reporter: as americans sign up for next year s health insurance coverage, those on the exchange are seeing higher premiums just as they did a year ago when they were up on average 25%. according to the kaiser family foundation, premiums in 2018 are rising an average of 18% for gold and bronze plans and 32% for silver plans. president trump blames the law tweeting last month: as usual, the obamacare premiums will be up. the dems open it, but we will repeal and replace and have great health care soon after tax cuts. many democrats say it s really trump s fault. california s insurance commissioner dave jones wrote: 2018 health insurance rates higher thanks to trump and remies. in washington state they re calling it thanks to trump and republicans. in washington state, they re calling it sabotage. the things that trump has said has affected the market, made it unstable and created uncertainty. and that s something that health insurers don t like. reporter: president trump did cut off cost-sharing subsidies or direct payments to insurance companies after a federal judge ruled them illegal because congress never approved them. and that is partially impacting the cost of silver plans. but premiums have gone up each year since the law passed mainly because insurers are paying out more than they re taking in. it s obamacare s regulations that have more than doubled people yums over the last four or five years, and it s the sloppy drafting of obamacare that led to the illegal cost-sharing subsidies that the obama administration has been spending without the authorization of congress. reporter: despite the often times confusing blame game, consumers are figuring out what works for them. and because tax credits are also increasing, the vast majority of those on the exchange aren t paying any more for premiums. still, the 7-year-old law remains a political football that gets passed at every sign of trouble. in seattle, dan springer, fox news. rick: the situation in puerto rico remains critical two months after hurricane maria ravaged the american island. power outages are still widespread across the u.s. territory and clean water is scarce. the conditions are driving residents to leave puerto rico, sending a surge of people into florida. steve harrigan picks up this story in kissimmee, florida. reporter: the old without medicine are coming, the young without classrooms and those in between. i don t have nothing. reporter: nothing in puerto rico eight weeks after hurricane maria means no house, power, phone, internet, no road. steven grew specialty hot peppers and cilantro. i m kind of stuck in the air. i mean, i produce hydrouponically as well, so without light. water issues, i can t even produce. reporter: a farmer without light or water who s come to orlando with two pairs of pants and a shirt. starting from zero. we re starting from zero. reporter: a two month month blackout on the eye land has driven more than 156,000 u.s. citizens from puerto rico to florida according to florida s division of emergency management. one-stop shopping centers have been set up to provide housing, medical care, food and employment. the surge is straining local resources, especially schools where dozens of new students without transcripts arrive each day. they re just showing up at your doorstep every day. every day. we enrolled 72 yesterday. reporter: 2500 new students in osceola county, more than 80% of whom don t speak english. [speaking spanish] reporter: some arrive alone. each new student costs the district roughly $28,000, an unbudgeted expense of more than $70 million say school officials. and that s adding, like, two elementary schools to our population that we were unable to the plan for and project. reporter: even before the storms, puerto ricans were fleeing a debt-ridden economy at the pace of 80,000 a year from an island whose population is just 3.5 million. but now that flight has turned desperate. half a million puerto ricans are expected to come to florida in the next four years to join the one million already here. some may be starting from zero, but the dramatic demographic shift has the potential to create a new force in florida politics. in kissimmee, florida, steve harrigan, fox news. rick: al franken says he hopes to regain the trust of constituents as he finds himself at the center of a firestorm over sexual harassment on capitol hill. where the senator goes from here. plus, roy moore defying calls to exit the alabama special election amid allegations of sexual misconduct. the latest on that race and what a moore victory could mean for the president and the gop. this is all about politics, and that s why when politicians talk about this, it doesn t have a lot of credibility. this has been going on in politics for a very long time. democrats try and defend their own, republicans try and defend their own. hmph! affordable, fast fedex ground. ltry align probiotic.n your digestive system? for a non-stop, sweet treat goodness, hold on to your tiara kind of day. get 24/7 digestive support, with align. the #1 doctor recommended probiotic brand. also in kids chewables. looking into all this, and i will cooperate fully with it. listen, i know i have a lot of work to regain the trust of people i ve let down. the people of minnesota, my friends and supporters, my colleagues and especially everyone who counts on me to be a champion and ally of women. rick: joining me now is morgan, reporter for the hill. morgan, good to see you. thanks for having me, rick. rick: your reaction to al franken s interview. it s certainly a major moment. al franken has been silent for about eight days. this is him coming out and really addressing those allegations prickly. he publicly. he s certainly saying he s ashamed, taking blame though at the same time saying he doesn t recall some of the photographs that were taken in those instances in the same way the women have recounted them. but i think the major question is, is this going to be enough for democrat, for progressive groups that are called on franken to resign. he certainly says here he s ready to get back to work and won t step down, but it will remain to be seen whether or not there will be more calls for his resignation especially if more allegations come like this come to light. rick: he said today this was not something he would intentionally do, but the acts as described don t sound accidental. right. certainly, his explanation has kind of walked the line between saying that the accounts are exactly what happened and accusing the women of lying. he s certainly not doing that, but he s really trying to emphasize that he didn t mean, you know, the way that these women felt. but at the same time saying he s apologizing for making them feel that way. so he s certainly walking a fine line in the way that he s answered to these accusations. obviously, apologizing to the first woman who came out, and she has accepted his apology as well. rick: yeah. certainly, he s emphasizing that. rick: we didn t hear a flat-out denial, and the women s stories sound pretty similar, almost more like a pattern than an accident. right. there s been a few women, and several of those accounts have been recounted anonymously, some to the huffington post. but, yes, franken isn t denying what actually happened, he s just saying he doesn t remember those encount ors. i think one other important point from the interview today is that he was asked whether or not he expects there to be more allegations, and he basically indicated that he didn t know and that he hopes not. so i think it definitely leaves the door open. i think he s being very careful there because if he is truthful in saying that this wasn t what he intended and that he didn t remember them these ways, then i think he s perhaps worried that, you know, more people will come out, and this behavior will be brought to light. rick: based on the allegations and the photo that was released, is it offensive to hear him describe himself as an ally of women? i mean, i think he s certainly trying to, again as i said, walk the line between saying that he s an ally of women and taking responsibility for his actions. so i think that leann tweeden, obviously, accepted that apology. i think other people will respond probably differently or be varying reactions to the way franken has handled everything. rick: i guess the question is whether it s forgivable or not. right. and i think that we ll see, again, varying reactions to that, you know? i think there will be people that say that they forgive him and that he, you know, basically welcoming this ethics investigation and taking blame, and i think there will be others that will continue to call for his resignation and call for him to step down. rick: you re down in washington, right? uh-huh. rick: what s the buzz down there about representative john conyers today? john conyers make willing a big statement making a big statement saying he s going to step down from his post as the top democrat on the judiciary committee. certainly a major step especially given that conyers has denied the allegations that have been brought to light and media reporting about settlements that have been made with staffers that have alleged sexual harassment. i think that it s clear that conyers will continue to receive scrutiny with an ethics investigation pending, and i think that it s definitely going to be a point of focus especially this week with the house voting on that resolution for the anti-sexual harassment training. rick: yeah. you talked about al franken walking a fine line today. nancy pelosi did today as far as congress is concerned. absolutely, yes. she stepped far short of criticizing conyers, you know, saying one or two accusations and saying that he is an icon and been a champion for women. so certainly nancy pelosi not coming out and criticizing conyers, but at the same time saying she believed and hoped he would do the right thing. then you have him hours later, of course, stepping down from that position. so i think we re going to to continue to see him examined as this ethics investigation continues. again, like franken, the question is will more of these accusations surface, you know, will he continue to have to, you know, deny them? will he come out and show some, you know, some sort of guilt perhaps? major questions especially with those accusations coming out more recently against conyers. rick: mo began, you mentioned morgan, you mentioned a possible vote on mandatory sexual harassment training in congress. it seems like it might be a little late for that. well, i think this is their attempt, obviously, at trying to stem the criticism, the outrage over all of this, these allegations. this is something that s been optional in the past but, obviously, they re trying to make a statement with this resolution. of course, it s one of the many things that republicans in the house are focusing and the senate are focusing on in the coming weeks. certainly, there s a major agenda, and this is just another thing they ve added to it. so i think it s going to be a very, very busy end to november and beginning of december. rick: but it almost feels like we re seeing a sea change down in washington. it certainly, these accusations and these women coming out so publicly, it cuts across various fields. i mean, we ve seen it first in entertainment with harvey weinstein, in politics, you know, the reporting field as well. a lot of accusations made there. so i think it s almost sort of a moment in the culture where we re having this big shift towards women, you know, coming out and feeling emboldened and being able to tell their stories. i don t think this is something that s going to go away with. i think it s certainly been a major point of focus in recent weeks and again with this vote this week, it s clear that congress is going to be putting the spotlight on it and, obviously, with these ethics investigations ongoing as well. rick: we started with al franken, let s finish with al franken. is it your sense that he may or that he will survive this test? i think it s a little too soon to tell at this point. clearly, he is saying he s ready to get back to work and prove to people that they can trust him again and regain their trust. he s very openly, you know, accepting blame in a way and saying that he s ashamed and really just making a point to try to move past this. but i think that it really depends on, you know, whether or not his allies, groups that have already called on him to resign, whether they re going to step up those calls, whether, you know, democrats are going to stand by him. i don t think that he s out of the woods yet. obviously, al franken, you know, these accusations started to come out right when senators left town, so this ll be the first week where they re really back, and i think we ll know something in the coming days. but i don t think he s quite out of the woods yet. rick: okay. we appreciate your time tonight. thanks for having me. rick: monday is the deadline for people in alabama to get registered to vote in the upcoming senate election pitting roy moore against democrat doug jones. president trump blasting jones on twitter and offering some indirect support for moore. senator john thune of south dakota says the president should have a very different message. the president, obviously, can speak for himself. but and i think he sees the specter of a democrat holding that seat and what that might mean for his agenda, but the alternative, as i said, isn t good either, chris. as far as i m concerned, the president to the degree that he wants to use his influence in this race could, i think, help everybody out by doing what he can to try and get roy mere to step aside roy moore to step aside. rick: marianne rafferty, how confident is doug jones tonight that he can beat roy moore? reporter: hi, rick. doug jones didn t waste a good opportunity to talk to voters just before auburn pulled off a big win existence the crimson tide, the democrat was campaigning tailgate style to remind voters that he needs their support to score his own win against his rival, roy moore. i think we re going to win. that that s all i know. we ve got a really great i mean, there are just thousands of supporters that have come out to work for this campaign. we ve been talking about all the issues that matter to people from the day, day one. you get sidetracked on other things, but we ve been talking about the economy, we ve been talking about health care. those are the issues that people care about the most. and it s resonating with us. reporter: and alabama native charles barkley voicing his support for jones and expressing his thoughts on moore even before sexual misconduct allegations surfaced. we got a lot of black people in this state who are amazing people. but to run a campaign with a guy as your chief advocate who is a white nationalist, a white separatist, that should have disqualified roy moore way before this women stuff came up. reporter: now barkley never pulley endorsed jones fully endorsed jones, but he made his opinion pretty clear to everyone. rick? rick: if doug jones wins, it could impact the balance of power in the senate. reporter: well, that s right. if jones wins, it would mean an even narrower margin for republicans in the senate which currently stands at 51-49. but despite what happens in the battle for this alabama senate seat, republicans are hoping to the push through the tax reform bill before the end of the year. now president trump also weighing in on the importance of this race, tweeting earlier today: i endorsed luther strange in the alabama primary. he shot way up in the polls, but it wasn t enough. can t let schumer-pelosi win this race, liberal jones would be bad. meanwhile, we haven t seen much of republican senate candidate roy moore the past couple of days in the wake of sexual misconduct allegations, but he does have plans to hold a rally tomorrow in fort payne, alabama. this is going to be the first one since november 16th when he didn t allow reporters to ask any questions about the allegations against him. we ll see if he addresses the allegations this time around. rick? rick: and just a couple weeks til that special election. thanks very much. what we re learning about the servicemen who lost their lives when their plane crashed in the philippine sea. and the mystery surrounding the death of the texas border patrol agent who s now been laid to rest. it s our duty and honor to do so. it s not just for us, it s for the nation itself because we ve lost another guardian of our borders. and it s not right. my bladder leakage was making me feel like i couldn t spend time with my grandson. now depend fit-flex has their fastest absorbing material inside, so it keeps me dry and protected. go to depend.com - get a coupon and try them for yourself. go to depend.com - ohhhhhh, ou! guess what i just got? uh! i used to be spellbound hello again. i used to be spellbound hi. i used to be spellbound that s a big phone. in your arms. 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