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they provide a buddy for the children there and they make church fun, which is just so amazing. so we have been going to church 1 1/2 years before the pandemic happened. it was great. he loved going there. he loved singing and worshipping with the other kids. give me and my husband to go to church and feel like everything is okay. like we can enjoy the service and grady will be okay. >> martha: such a pain to have the wires. i completely can relate. they're attached to you and uncomfortable. i completely understand. erin, you know, the program is that the -- they match up the kids with a buddy. tell me about katie herridge. >> yes. she's a speech therapist in her day job. she volunteers at the church. she volunteers her thyme and served for liquid church on the
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is of the phone thing, it's getting people to church. church is so uninspiring. it's so boring. that's why no one goes anywhere. you walk in and there are five gray heads in the pew and they lecture you. now they've gotten political. the pope is telling us basically to have open borders. it's a big turnoff. they need to make church fun again. there is -- i went to it. it's like a big rock concert and it's always full. they need to start doing that. >> that's happening all over the country! >> they need to do that more. that's the only way. >> everywhere, these big churches are exciting. what do you think is this idea of giving up the phone and reflecting? >> for lunch, i give up on my new year's resolution, so i'm all about quitting things. i'm with these guys. i don't like having to respond. on my phone, the idea of having an excuse to not -- "you didn't write back at me." because of god, wouldn't let it. i finally have an excuse for being out of sight. >> tom: are you relieved when
is of the phone thing, it's getting people to church. church is so uninspiring. it's so boring. that's why no one goes anywhere. you walk in and there are five gray heads in the pew and they lecture you. now they've gotten political. the pope is telling us basically to have open borders. it's a big turnoff. they need to make church fun again. there is -- i went to it. it's like a big rock concert and it's always full. they need to start doing that. >> that's happening all over the country! >> they need to do that more. that's the only way. >> everywhere, these big churches are exciting. what do you think is this idea of giving up the phone and reflecting? >> for lunch, i give up on my new year's resolution, so i'm all about quitting things. i'm with these guys. i don't like having to respond. on my phone, the idea of having an excuse to not -- "you didn't write back at me." because of god, wouldn't let it. i finally have an excuse for being out of sight. >> tom: are you relieved when