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about it, maybe he'll do it. like he did with the mueller investigation for so long. there is no chance he was ever going to testify. >> it's all a routine. it's all a hoax! don't believe it! i mean, the idea that he'd been cooperative at the same time while he's throwing every bit of sand he can into the works is like, you know, come on, we know fully once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. we all know how the story ends. >> you know who's going to testify? his mascot, lindsey graham has been ordered by the federal appeals court to testify to the georgia grand jury that is inv...

Judge dearie to rule on these issues. they seem quite frivolous. >> it will be an interesting night when we discover whose name was in that clemency document that donald trump calls personal in this inventory of documents. harry, lippman what did you get from reading the justice department's reading of the -- disputes? >> since we're picking favorites, i would go six and seven with what donald trump says that a record is personal is somehow also an official record of the government. that is so clearly the null said. but there are two arguments here, and i agree with andrew that dairy should ma...

You found the most critical in the trove of documents that was taking from donald trump's home. and i'm curious also the reaction to what is there from both inside and outside of trump world. >> that is really interesting list, but also a very vague list. among the items that were listed was a clemency document for roger stone, which was very interesting to see. boxes that are very vaguely labeled. binders, photos, obviously just lots of documents that they say were classified or top secret. there is not a lot that we can glean from this other than that we know it does appear that there is a l...

0 hi alex. >> hi to you. yeah i'm cranking up about what you are just saying, because i was watching you with the amenable and wonderful role in martin and charles -- coming up. going like, she's never gonna end on time. roland is never gonna letter and on time. and if he is the listening there, he knows exactly what i'm talking about. but we love him, and his energy. and it was awesome. so hey, props to you for anchoring that. where you got him off on. time >> thank you, thank you very much. have a great show. >> thank you, see it next week. a very good day to all of you from msnbc world head...