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And i think this is going to play out, really — this terror campaign is going to continue on for months. even the months beyond this counteroffensive, the russians are going to continue to terrorise the ukrainian population. so, what they need is considerably more air defences. they need layered air defences. they need the us patriots, the nasams, the various kind of systems that the uk is providing in abundance but in greater numbers, and those need to continue to flow into ukraine. eventually, they need air power to continue to provide some air cover against russian cruise missile attacks....

From being deeply reluctant about ukraine joining nato during the war. at this point i see no other choice. joining nato would put an end to putin's indefinite war, perpetual war, with this idea that the longer he waits, he can wait out the west. there's absolutely a path to ukraine joining nato, but immediately they need ammunition. they need attack 'ems, they need planes and continued support for a months' long campaign to wear down the russian army. >> colonel alexander vindman joining us from kyiv, thank you very much. >> thank you. just ahead, what we are learning about state to overtur...

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That could benefit ukraine or if he's irrational, it could be very dangerous. erin. >> nick, thank you very much. as nick points out, we did see putin today but it was with troops. four days after the attempted rebellion by prigozhin. not walking the streets, as we remember president zelenskyy. so famously did that after the invasion of kyiv. very different profile. we're joined now by alexander vindman in kyiv. he's a retired colonel born in soviet ukraine who found himself at center of former president trump's first impeachment. and with me nina. she's in moscow, a professor of international...

Those elements of the field don't make sense of it. part of that view would be that putin did offer him -- belarus, some sort of amnesty. and give prigozhin temporary shelter inside belarus. even that is a bit farfetched that he would allowed this situation to stand. -- to working in power and regimes to that ability. it's frankly impossible that putin's going to let him get away. he's notoriously vindictive. going after intelligence officers that have gone against russia before, poisoning him. -- the infants -- bunch of different things. prigozhin, he's not likely to walk away from this. >> c...