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Because our country has been through a lot, ukraine knows a lot about it. i would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation, ukraine, they say crowd strike. and i guess you have one of your wealthy people, the server. they say ukraine has it. the whole situation. i would like to have the attorney general call you or your people and i like to get to the bottom of it. >> president trump: and by the way, just so you understand it's perfect. we're looking at the 2016 election, which was a disaster. we went through hell, my penetration. people were destroyed, their lives were des...

Information not from the president but through mulvaney and sondland. the one exception is that there are these direct conversations that were overheard between gordon sondland and the president but republicans have been saying, well, maybe he misinterpreted or it's just his word. we haven't heard the president say himself that he wanted these investigations. apart from the transcript of the phone call in which he refers to the bidens and crowdstrike server and things like that. so the republicans will probably seize on this to try to create that space between the president and the people who ...

System. crowdstrike is the company the fbi hired to make a copy and analyze it for them. crowdstrike, by the way, is based in california. one of the cofounders was born in russia, not ukraine. he moved to the u.s. as a teenager. conspiracy theory number two. this idea that as vice president, joe biden bribed ukraine into firing a prosecutor who was pursuing an investigation of his son by withholding aid money -- basically what the president just did. what hunter biden did, you can argue it was wrong, but he was never the subject of a criminal investigation. the vp, along with the governments o...

>> nobody's seen it. >> they can't give them prove that they didn't take a server when the server wasn't taken. the dnc people said no server was taken. >> that's not what i'm talking about. >> but that's what he's he's talking about. >> i believe the president, like many of us, would like to see the proof that the fbi has that russia hacked the dnc. >> they had the proof. they indicted 12 different people and entities. >> i understand what you're saying but crowdstrike's proof has not been made public. >> i'm out of time. i have to ask this, i'm sorry if it makes you uncomfortable. you and i ...

Here's what he said. >> mm-hmm. >> not only a conspiracy theory, it is a completely debunked. let me just again repeat that it has no validity. >> why? why would the senate intel committee run by a republican say the same thing? he was talking about the crowdstrike rumors and them having this server. >> i don't believe crowdstrike. >> that's what the president said he wanted investigated. >> then let's debunk that. i'm talking about the real, in plain sight evidence. >> hold on. >> that ukraine's president, poroshenko, had ordered his people to meddle in the united states election. >> michael,...