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physically manifest what's really going on, many of the unanswered questions perhaps can come closer together and drafts one and two can stand more closely with each other. and then indeed i would think it is a policy-driven document, but perhaps we can bridge the gap between policy and actual physical doing in a better way. president miguel: commissioner borden? commissioner borden: i actually feel a little bit different. i think that the problem with the document is that it says everything and it says nothing. i mean, i think why don't we look at it like the better streets plan, or...

close. h.c.d. is already very concerned about how long this has taken and it's very important for us to bring this to a close. i will do my best to lead an effort to have these discussions, and i agree with some of the comments made, that some of these things are not easily discussed in this type of format. with three minutes per person and all that. it's not an easy thing to do to have a true discussion. obviously it can't be done. so we will do our best to try to maneuver some discussions and enable some discussions where we can have meaningful dialogue. the other thing that i thin...

loitering or graffiti on any of his businesses. he immediately tidies them up. there are a lot of liquor outlets in our neighborhood, but they seem to be springing up all the time. and he, who has an established relationship with all the other businesses in the neighborhood, can't seem to get that little kick, which he needs. because just the selling of cigarettes or lottery tickets or gum is just not enough to cut it. anyway, thank you. president miguel: thank you. newman, michael, shawn. >> i'm michael, but i'm on the next item, item 13. president miguel: excuse me. >> i'm shawn, i...