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You earlier in week. it's about the 12th imam. the 12th imam, seven years ago i started reading up on. daniel, have you read the hadif, chris? daniel you have read it, obviously. when i first started looking at this, i thought wow! this guy really looks like somebody went on opposite day and read john the revelator and read the book of revelation and say let's just make the story end the opposite way. the anti-christ by john the revelator seems to have a lot of the same earmarks that the 12th imam does. the video on the screen is a video made by the state of iran. that is saying that the 12th ...

It was genocide. i don't know if it was jihad as such. jihad, the point of jihad is spread the rule of islam. not to convert people. not just to kill people. but to spread the rule of islam. the rule and therefore the law of islam. the ottomom empire was already muslim there couldn't jihad in the ottoman empire. it wasn't technically possible. so it comes out of superiority of the muslims against non-muslims and the aggravations of war. i don't think technically speaking you can call it -- >> glenn: chris, help me out. daniel just said that shariah is for the spread of islamic rule. >> jihad. ...

Aig. the u.s. government took it over in 2008. i want to introduce you to a couple of people. first, chris holton, the vice president at the center for security policy. his organization published a book called "shariah, the threat to america." he's the editor of shariah finance watch.org. daniel pice, visiting fellow of hoover institute and author of "militant islam reaches america." great to have you both. start, chris, with you. daniel, you watch over shariah and your expertise is finance, correct? okay. first of all, do i have it all right? >> yes, sir. the only thing i can see you might ha...

destruction of our own constitution? yeah. you know it's amazing to me, we have, we're good and decent people. we try to be inclusive and try not to be hateful. but we're going to be remembered not as tolerant, we're going to be remembered as morons. we are taking our own country down. i showed you this before. this is a theory that as soon as tunisia happened on the 31st of january, i said look out. tunisia is going to be possibly the archduke ferdinand moment. anybody remember me saying that? did you think i was -- i mean sounded nuts at the time, didn't it? it sounded like it's tu...

As the muslim brotherhood sits down for talks with the government. all while protesters refuse to leave egypt's streets on this 13th day. here to help us all analyze what this means is the director of the middle east forum, daniel pike. good morning, mr. pike, how are you. >> good morning. >> what do you make of it at this point? are we reading too much into this so-called democratic revolution? is democracy on the way as we see it here in the united states for egypt? >> i doubt it very much. and mostly because democracy is a process that takes years and even decades, not days and weeks. secon...