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Litigate any of the privilege issues during that time. in fact, they filed no lawsuits arising from this impeachment inquiry to seek to contest the bases that the trump administration gave for resisting the subpoenas, the basis for why those subpoenas were invalid, and when litigation was filed by one of the subpoena recipients that was dr. charles kupperman, the deputy national security adviser, he went to the court ad sought a declaratory judgment saying the president's told me i shouldn't go. i have a subpoena from the house saying i should go. please, courts, tell me what are my obligation...

Earlier, by one of my colleagues, if the president exercised executive privilege and requested a declaratory judgment from the a court, if the privilege was upheld would you undertake then to impeach the judge? i mean, think about that. your standard giving absolute process authority to the house would impel you to impeach a judge who sustained a lawful exercise of the privilege of the executive. so i think, mr. chairman, you've overdone your balance and when we get back to this, my amendment, it basically covers and sets forth clearly what the holding or the pause of the ukrainian aid was abo...

Vindman. someone said -- and -- and i would ask this of my colleagues. under the standard that was given earlier by one of my colleagues, if the president exercised executive privilege and requested declaratory judgment from a court, if the privilege was upheld, would you undertake then to impeach the judge? i mean, think a that. your standard giving absolute process authority to the house would impel you to impeach a judge who sustained a lawful exercise of the privilege of the executive. so i think, mr. chairman, you've overgone your bounds. and when we get back to my amendment, it basically...

Leland: great conversation there, let's get on who from the administration will and will not testify with former senior counsel to homeland security, litigation department kevin, good to have you, back, sir. all right, you put up the letter that ellison barber was talking about from john bolton's attorney chuck cooper, the pertinent situation here is that bolton has a recollection of events, meetings and conversations, many relevant meetings and conversation that is have not yet been discussed in the testimonies thus far. you followed the logic out from that, conceivably if that was exculpator...

>> bolton's attorneys also representing his former deputy charles kupperman in court questioning whether he must comply and how necessary it is to have testimony from kupperman and bolton because the judge won't consider the lawsuit until december. >> this is the real battleground for whether or not testimony can be had of people like bolton and kupperman, even though kupperman is essentially a deputy of some of the higher-ups. now in this battle, it is going to be the two branches of government, the executive, and obviously the congressional branch, with the third branch, the judicial branch,...