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contributions from the nra -- contributions from the nra and more in terms of a part of his base rebelling that could be reflected in the numbers. >> that's why you saw in that tweet this morning stepping back a little bit, joe. >> i was going to say, that said, though, donald trump is looking at the electoral map. he's looking at what's been happening over the past six months, he's looking at one democrat after another winning state legislative races where they haven't won in 40 years, like for instance in connecticut this week, if you want to look on a county level and delaware pennsylvania, winning seats that democrats have never won before, you saw virginia, just an absolutely remarkable landslide, legislative landslide by the democrats doing much better there than anybody expected plus winning the governorship against another guy that went against the nra. willie, donald trump can worry about his base but right now if
>> and we'll hear from a couple of those congress people. still ahead on "morning joe," as we just heard, president trump directly challenged republican pat toomey to include an assault weapons ban in his legislation for gun reform. we'll get reaction from the pennsylvania senator straight ahead. also katy tur helped break news at nbc with her reporting that bob mueller is asking whether donald trump knew about the hacked democratic e-mails before their release. katy joins the table when we come back. this is the story of green mountain coffee roasters dark magic told in the time it takes to brew your cup. first, we head to vermont. and go to our coffee shop. and meet dave. hey. why is dark magic so spell-bindingly good, he asks? let me show you. let's go. so we climb. hike. see a bear. woah. reach the top.
will get a consensus within congress. look, pennsylvania is a big second amendment state, lots of folks own guns and have for generations, they don't think it's an infringement on the second amendment to do a three-minute background check to screen out the people who are dangerously mentally ill or violent criminals. we ought to respond to that. >> senator toomey, willie geist in new york. my question for you, and you face this uphill battle since you first introduced manchin/toomey years ago and you had your nra rating drop to a c at the time. >> sounds right. >> what is the resistance to this idea you're talking about? words in are the people that are preventing this from moving forward. the idea sounds common sense to a lot of people that there ought to be a background check on private sales, even on a sale at a gun show. what's standing in the way of that happening? >> well, i'll tell you, i think back in 2013 the argument that i heard the most was first of all
>> i'm sorry. that's just -- that's funny. i mean, it's true, the nra does have less power over him than everybody else around that table. i don't know if he really knows that or not but he could do any of the things he suggested yesterday except subverting due process in the united states of america and his base would go along with it. when i say "anything," i talk mainly about what our next guest pat toomey, united states senator from pennsylvania, has been suggesting since after -- the days after newtown. senator, thank you so much for being with us. it has to be something to being called a squish for going too far on background checks one day to being called a squish for not going far enough by the president of the united states. let me ask, are you and joe manchin going to push this bill forward and consider adding the portion that raises the gun buying age to 21.
process, that did take my breath away. but look i think there's an old saying about this president which is take him seriously and not necessarily literally and i think the big take away from this meeting is he wants to get something done, broadening background checks would be the centerpiece of it. so i agree with all of that. individual items that some of my colleagues will offer as amendments, i'll vote against, some i'd probably vote for. let's have that debate. let's let the senate function. let the american people see this process and i think in the end we'd have a product. >> senator pat toomey of pennsylvania, thank you, we appreciate it. let's bring in another lawmaker who was in the room for white house meeting on gun policy, a member of the arms services committee, democratic congresswoman stephanie murphy of florida. congressman, good to have you on this morning. were you surprised? i'll put the same question to
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with him getting into an altercation with police in the cliffton heights area and then the situation continued into drexel hill, which is part of upper darby just outside of philadelphia. and that is when investigators tell us he allegedly tried to run several officers over including a police chief. and that's when five officers pulled their weapons and fired on the suspect. we're told that the officers were in fear in fear of their lives. police officials tell us that he did -- the officers did what they had to do. five officers opening fire no officers were injured. several police departments were on scene here. swat out of delaware pennsylvania they are here as well. again, we are waiting for 8:30 update by the upper darby township police department to find out more about what led us to this situation. kimberly? >> interesting. yeah. a lot developments. and then of course it seems that this individual had had, i guess some prior