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double down in this fight for our democracy. >> you're totally right some of these folks who are discertified with the biden administration do have the most to lose, and in fact would not necessarily be served by a trump administration, particularly people who are frustrated about this administration's handling of israel and hamas. i'm not sure how they think it would be better under a trump administration, but it's a real issue. you're telling me you've got to go out and talk to these people. but what will you actually say? if someone says to you 23,000 people are dead in gaza funded by american weaponry and given american support, some people are calling it -- it looks like a genocide. what's your answer? what would you say to them? >> i would say joe bide wakes up every day thinking about this issue and joe biden has approached this issue not from a political one but from the sper spective as commander in chief and from the outset of this