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Scotland or northern ireland. nobody would think of that because they're white. >> that's right. >> it's so obvious. >> it's so obvious, and what's so disappointing is you look at the president's language. you look at his policies. this is clearly racism, and that was an opportunity for everyone to stand up and say enough is enough. we need to move forward on a whole range of important policy issues. we've passed 230 pieces of legislation that are sitting on mitch mcconnell's desk. we have lots of work to do for the american people. but it would have been very helpful today if everyone in the ...

Trump, which is enamored by the trappings of the presidency. not just the white house and the oval, but the plane and the helicopter, and the toys that you get when you're president. what we've seen a lot less from trump is him reflecting on the power of the office. what you could use the office for. to play into his re-election campaign, we don't hear him talking a lot about what he would want to do with that office in a second term. that to me is so unique. you normally hear presidents at least talking about what they would like to have accomplished by the time they get done with their four ...

Situation to be in as a politician and i don't think that there's much expectation that even with an apology, even though it was clearly sincere that that was going to be enough to pull him back from the brink. >> northam said that photo doesn't reflect who he is. >> look, i think in politics it's always -- there's always been this sort of dichotomy between who i was when i was young and doing stupid things but who i've been as an adult, here's my record. when it comes to issues of race and racism and doing things and saying things that were racist even if in your heart you're not a racist the...

Okay? basically there's no question here in terms of constitutional scholarship. the problem is there was also little question in previous supreme court cases. and they went down to the wire. since supreme court doesn't reflect, apparently, the judicial mainstream on issues like this, i'm worried. >> jonathan, anton, thank you both. thank you. >> turning now to the fight over the fate of asylum seekers detained at the u.s./mexico border. it has become highly politicized. even more so now that we are facing a potential government shutdown at the end of this week. the sticking point, of course...

Standards, we'll stand up for this one time. we can't say that there is a change in america first policy if there's no back-up to this. if it is literally a one off. we don't have another military answer. >> i guess the question is, does he raise expectations? president obama raised expectations with the resistance. he had a coalition ready to go. and then is this going to raise expectations? >> no. i think the administration is trying to lower expectations. we heard this from rex tillerson saying, there doesn't reflect, and don't extrapolate a change in policy. i think obama campaigned agains...