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that legislation and pass the appropriate laws dealing with those animals. don't conflate animals with humans. >> what does that mean? sit down in the restaurants with us? i'm trying to wrap my head around what that would actually look like. >> well i'll tell you, abbey. since you're asking the question. the case is about these two chimps being held and if you treated them like people that would be for them a legal tool to not be held against their will in captivity. >> so i have a dog who's my best friend. and i know this is not like a dog, but i treat george my puppy, like a human being. i hope other people would treat their animals like a human being, but at the same time i put him in his crate when i go off to work. i would not do that -- well i think that's the debate here. it's an animal right? >> johnathan you're shaking your head. >> it's an animal. no. no liberty. no nothing. you talked about the chimp

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