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Program, at this point, if the judges will keep ruling in favor of daca and not only to keep it alive, to renew it, what kind of motivation will there be for democrats to go back and negotiate? >> this will go to the supreme court. don't forget there are still a lawsuit against the constitutionality of daca in th. barack obama overstepped his bounds by actually trying to write it legislation via the executive branch, which he couldn't do. but the fact this is a george w. bush appointee is meaningless. it reinforces the fact that something really scary is going on in the federal courts right no...

Termination of the daca program but if they keep ruling in favor of daca not only to keep it alive but renew it, what motivation is there going to be for democrats to negotiate? >> none. this will go to the supreme court and there's still a lawsuit against the constitutionality of daca in the first place because barack obama overstepped his bounds by trying to write in legislation via the executive branch which he couldn't do but the fact this is a george w. bush appointee is meaningless, it reinforces that something scary is going on in the federal courts right now. of this judge wants to wri...

Much because listen, it's going to be a local race and a lot of these midterms. the democrats are going to try to nationalize it and make trump out to be some sort of racist, sexist traitor and villain. the republicans have to make it about policy and scare people to say that policy with the gavel is a nightmare. that's how it's going to play out. the democrats have no money. the republicans have much more money. the senate map is a bigger uphill climb for the democrats. the house is definitely in play. i can imagine if republicans and said don't elect democrats. we are going to have more dead...

Because they have been pretty clear that you can't just pull the plug all at once. what they're going to do, as i think the majority leader is trying to explain, is first you pass a thing saying, yes, we are closing down this law. but, you also say, but it remains the law of the land until we pass some other legislation that replaces it. you can't just have know health care system at all. >> so, katherine, they've got this -- the democrats have this day of action on the 15th. hillary clinton spent the entire campaign saying, don't elect donald trump, he wants to repeal obamacare, donald trump'...

Repealing these chunks of obamacare, comma, effective day, a couple of years from now. because they have been pretty clear that you can't just pull the plug all at once. what they're going to do, as i think the majority leader is trying to explain, is first you pass a thing saying, yes, we are closing down this law. but, you also say, but it remains the law of the land until we pass some other legislation that replaces it. you can't just have know health care system at all. >> so, katherine, they've got this -- the democrats have this day of action on the 15th. hillary clinton spent the entire...