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mine in the western part of the u.s. say these are not free market principles. and you just switched from a democrat to republican. what would you say to them about that? >> well, it's just a matter of national security. think about if you awaken to the fact the eastern coal fields are gone and there is a disruption. there is a bomb at a gas junction or at a bridge or two that is bringing western coal. what are we going to do? are you willing to take that level of exposure? i truly believe -- i'm not for a hand-out. i truly believe there will be a point in time to where we can truly maybe do without eastern coal. but today if you can take that risk, if we were to lose our power -- first of all if we had the mines still running in the east and had a disruption we could haul it to the power plants in the east, florida
>> bill: president trump touting success on rebooting the coal industry last week. west virginia's governor is asking the president for a big investment. governor jim justice joins me now live. now a republican. thank you for coming back here. good morning to you. >> thanks for having me. >> bill: we have a bit of a delay here. you are asking for a lot, governor. you want $4 1/2 billion to save eastern coal in your state and elsewhere. that sounds like a bail-out. how do you defend it? >> well, bill, it's anything but that. i mean, just think for just one second. we came really close to completely losing our eastern coal fields in the past probably four years. 55 companies took bankruptcy. now at the end of the day we better awaken to one thing and
that's for sure. we can't afford today to do without coal in the east. there is no way. and just think if we could fast forward and awaken to the fact that we did lose the eastern coal fields completely and we're completely dependent upon western coal or natural gas. from the standpoint of exposing our eastern power grid, are we willing to take that risk? are we truly willing to take that risk and to be perfectly honest the eastern coal fields, you're mining a 25 foot theme and in wyoming you're mining 80 foot. the problem is marketability. now, the reality is just this. i'm not looking for a hand-out in any way, shape, form or fashion. i'm looking for a way to put our miners truly back to work. >> bill: i can get that. >> back the work by the tens of thousands. >> bill: a lot of folks that