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Taft our musical first lady. You opened the book by making the case that of the 20th century first lady, shes the most obscure, but you say she deserves better from history. Tell me quickly why she deserves better than being obscure . Mr. Gould well, because she did some things that were, as youve mentioned in your opening, about that were very constructive, i mean, the cherry trees, bringing the Classical Music musicians to the white house, and, generally, trying to make washington the Cultural Center of the nation. That was her ambition. Now, it didnt work out because of medical reasons. But...

And the ears of alfred e. Newman. [laughter] it is an honor to be here with al smith iv. Obviously, i never knew your greatgrandfather. But from everything senator mccain told me [laughter] the two of them had a great time before prohibition. [laughter] al smith of course i am delighted, but not surprised, by the final repeal of the 18th amendment. I have said all along that when it was properly submitted to the rank and file of our people, they would readily see that it had no place in our constitution. It would be very difficult if not impossible to explain to those who come to this country ...

So lets just have a conversation as we go on. A couple of housekeeping things to begin with. This weekend, for those of you that dont know, is the society of president ial descendants first biannual gathering, as i call it. This is a new society, president ial descendants. There was no such thing before till i created it. It and we have a partner ship with Long Island University who takes care of much of us. We really appreciate the tremendous amount of work theyve done and sign of it is this roosevelt house here, which, if you havent had a sea bed to see, you havent had a chance to see it yet...

All. So lets just have a conversation as we go on. A couple of housekeeping things to begin with. This weekend, for those of you that dont know, is the society of president ial descendants first biannual gathering, as i call it. This is a new society, president ial descendants. There was no such thing before till i created it. It and we have a partner ship with Long Island University who takes care of much of us. We really appreciate the tremendous amount of work theyve done and sign of it is this roosevelt house here, which, if you havent had a sea bed to see, you havent had a chance to see i...

So lets get started. Do you mind if i sit . No. Okay, now there is. Im just afraid ill fall off front of this. Welcome to the panel of president ial descendants here. And were delighted to have the panelists. Ill introduce them in a minute. And i think the way well handle this is each well a few minutes and tell you what he or she wants to tell you about anything thats there and then. So its going to be very loosey goosey. And then when weve all had our word, well have an interchange amongst ourselves and with you all. So lets just have a conversation as we go on. A couple of housekeeping thin...