it s very last minute. it appears to be them jumping back in in a very big way. it s interesting, we ve got details on that ahead. we ve also got tremendously good names tonight concerning the obama family. it s news that is slightly more personal than it is political, but that s ahead tonight as well. so there s lots lots coming up, including for once some news that is more good than bad, which is always nice. but we re going to start tonight with some new tape that has never been heard publicly before. it s never been broadcast before. we re going to break this here live tonight with you. and i have to tell you, you ll be surprised to hear this, but this new tape that has never been broadcast before, it is tape from the greatest baseball player in new york. i was the best baseball player in new york when i was young. do you recognize that voice? that s a remarkable thing to have learned today from this brand new tape that s never been broadcast before. it s donald trump speaking. he says when i was young, so we re thinking we re talking about maybe he was 17 or 16 years old, when he was 16 years old, that was 1962. that s when the yankees went to the world series, they won the world series. it was like mickey mantle, roger maris. even if you don t know anything about baseball, you know mickey mantle. but it turns out none of them were the best baseball player in new york that year. no, it was this other guy. i was the best baseball player in new york when i was young. this is the best tape we ve gotten our hands on in a very long time. this is incredible. all right. this is from 2014. there is a pulitzer prize-winning reporter named michael dantonio. in preparing the book he did hours and hours of interviews with donald trump, just raw footage of them talking. some of those tapes have been obtained by the new york times. the the new york times has been doing a little bit of reporting on them recently but they have not published this audio we are about to play. i don t totally want to spoil it here, but arm chair psychologists, start your engines. this is incredible. i went to military academy, new york military academy for five years, from the year before freshman. so eighth grade on? yes. whose idea was this? well, i was very rebellious and my parents thought it would be a good idea. i was very rebellious. i loved to fight. i always love to fight. physical fights. all kinds of fights. physical. arguments? all types of fights. any kind of fight i loved it, including physical. and i was always the best athlete, something that nobody knew about me. but one guy you should speak to before it s too late, because he s a pretty old guy now, is major dobias. so when dobias was a drill sergeant in the army, and these guys were rough. this guy was so rough. in those days, they d smack the hell out of you. it s not like today where you smack somebody and you end up going to jail for the rest of your life. so i went up there, i ll never forget. eighth grade? and i m standing there at military academy. this guy comes up and he s like a bulldog too, rough guy. he was a drill sergeant. now they call him major dobias. but when i first knew him he was sergeant dobisa right right army. he was physically rough and mentally rough. he was also my baseball coach. and he said things like stand up, and i went give me a [ bleep ] break. and this guy came at me. you would never believe it. it was really fantastic. did he rough you up? oh, yeah, absolutely. grabbed you by the shirt? well, it doesn t matter, but it was not like what happens today. and you had to learn to survive. it was tough. it wasn t today. those were rougher times. that was before vietnam and these were guys that didn t take [ bleep ]. you must call him, before it s too late. ask him about how was trump as an athlete? because he said he coached for many, many it was like 35 years. he said donald trump was the best athlete i ve ever coached. donald trump was the best baseball player i ve ever coached. you know, just something to when did you know that you were good? i always knew i was good. i was always a good athlete. i was always the best athlete. like in first grade if the kids the a game from before the first grade. i was the best baseball player in new york when i was young. now, in those days, you know, you couldn t play baseball because there was no real you know, it wasn t a thing. plus my father was in the real estate business, which i didn t want to go into. i wanted to go into theater. i wanted to go into sports. but i also know that was very limited because in those days you couldn t even make any money being a great baseball player. didn t the dodgers train at west point a couple times, in the spring? everybody wanted me to be a baseball player. right. but i was a good at other things too. i was good at wrestling. i was really good at football. i was a good i was always good at sports. i was always like the best at sports. always the best. at all sports. my favorite part of that, i love the explanation for why, you know, nobody knows even now that he was the greatest baseball player in new york. he says when i was young, i was the best baseball player in new york when i was young. now he says but, you know, in those days, baseball wasn t really a thing. i was the best baseball player in new york when i was young. now in those days you couldn t play baseball because there was no real, you know, it wasn t a thing. he says in those days you couldn t even make any money being a baseball player. again, the time he s talking about here is when he was in high school, like 1962, 1963. yankees going to the world series. some of the best remembered games of all time. baseball, unequivocally the national pastime. mickey mantle a national hero. but donald trump didn t want to bother showing up all of those lesser baseball players because baseball wasn t really a thing then. we didn t really have leather covered balls, we just had rocks that we hid into the cave art. baseball wasn t a thing then? that s why you weren t? everybody wanted him to play but there wasn t really a baseball organization. donald trump believes, not hyperbolically, not jokingly, but apparently in all seriousness that he was the greatest baseball player in new york when he was a young man. he was the best at that. he was the best at all of sports. and why, mr. trump, were you the best? i think you have a natural ability at things. i m a big believer in nature. no, not nature. i m a big believer in natural ability. i believe in being prepared and all that stuff. but in many respects, the most important thing is an innate ability. and you knew this as a kid? no, i never thought of it as a kid. do you think you had it even then? always. when you look back at yourself i had it. i always had it. i always had it. i never had to work. other people have to prepare and do stuff, but i just came down from heaven, for example, as the greatest baseball player in new york. were you a good hitter? the best. i was the best hitter. it gives you some insight, right? i mean if that is how this presidential candidate thinks of himself and has always thought of himself going back to first grade no, no, no, before first grade, i mean if you understand that that is how he thinks of himself, then it is not a surprise when he, like, for example, today on the campaign trail tells a crowd of supporters in ohio that basically he is sick of this election. he is sick of all this working to earn this presidency thing. he s sick of it. just give it to me already. what a difference. you know, what a difference this is. and just thinking to myself right now, we should just cancel the election and just give it to trump, right? why are we having it for? just give it to trump. what are we having it for? what are you having this election for? i know. if you think of yourself as a person who has never actually had to work for anything because you were born innately great, you were bornin ately as the great is athlete, if you were excellent at everything you ever tried because you were born basically perfect, then why should you have to compete for something. i deserve it by virtue of me being me. so it offers an insight. this tape from the trump biographer which provided it to the new york times, i think this is newsworthy tape, and i think it is helpful to understanding how donald trump is running for president now, because he on tape here talks in this very unguarded way about how he sees himself and that is a rare thing we don t ever get from any candidate, let alone from him. but there is another piece of this tape that has never been heard publicly before, which we have got for you in just a second. and this other piece of tape, i think this is just like a dart into the heart of today s news. and it s on a subject that has only come up a little bit in the campaign so far. it came up for an instant earlier in this campaign when donald trump named mike pence to be his running mate. one of the controversial things in mike pence s record is that he is on record being against women in the military. from the very beginning of him running for congress, mike pence was against not just women in combat, but even women being in combat support units. he was even against women being allowed to do basic training for the military. mike pence wrote this creepy column in 1999 about young nubile 18-year-old women in basic training. the column ends with this line, i kid you not. women in the military, bad idea. that s the bottom line of his column on women in the military. so that s on record already from mike pence, donald trump s running mate, when pence was a talk radio host. that was the time he lost running for congress. that run most remembered for mike pence using campaign contributions to pay for his mortgage, his grocery bills, his car payment and his golfing fees. he let his donors pay for all that stuff. if mike pence were running in any normal republican, i think he would have been a scandal as a running mate. things in his record would have been a scandal and a problem to his running mate. it is testament to donald trump that he is so controversial that picking mike pence with mike pence s record, it hasn t given donald trump a single day of heartburn in the entire campaign. i mean if in this campaign anybody could pay attention to mike pence for more than ten seconds without passing out for lack of oxygen, this thing from him about women in the military, bad idea, that would be a scandal, right? that would be a problem for a campaign. maybe it will be still some day. for a long time i felt like this issue has been a lurking liability for trump and pence, just sort of waiting at some point to cause them trouble. well, now that trouble may finally be coming to pass, because now with this new tape that we are about to broadcast for the first time ever, this has never been heard publicly any time before, this is the first time anywhere, here is donald trump not 16 years ago or 18 years ago when mike pence was talking about this stuff, here s donald trump two years ago in 2014, unprompted, answering a totally unrelated question. just deciding to bring up voluntarily his donald trump opinion on women in the military. when you were young, what did you think of the 60s counterculture, the hippies, the music? you didn t do any of that stuff. no, i wasn t into it. it wasn t that i wasn t into it. what did you think? well, i went i went to a military academy, which was from a different planet. we didn t have that. and we didn t have women in the academy at that time. today you have women, which is a whole other story, you know, women in the army, and you see what s going on. it s like bedlam. it is bedlam. it s something that people aren t talking about, but what s going on is bedlam, bringing women in the army. bringing women in the army, women in the military, it s bedlam. and his running mate says women in the military, bad idea. ask military families how they feel about that in a potential commander in chief. ask women in the military how they feel about that in a potential commander in chief. ask women in general how they feel about that. bringing women into the army, bedlam. it s something people aren t talking about, but what s going on is bedlam. bringing women in the army, it s bedlam. women in the military, bad idea. the two of them are in line on that question. it is, therefore, a reasonable question to ask if trump and pence do get elected, will they kick all women out of the military? they re both on record saying it is a terrible thing that women are in the military. it s a terrible thing, it s even a disgusting thing. we ought to go back to only men serving in the military. is that what we should do? this one has been lurking just under the surface for them for quite a while, but now we ve got it on tape. i would love to hear an answer for this. okay. live here next we ll have the latest on what just happened at new york s laguardia airport where indiana governor mike pence s plane has skidded off the runway and the airport has been shut down. thankfully nobody was hurt in this incident, but we are getting in some crazy images of the actual runway. can you guys see those images there? look at the tarmac. this is what this hard landing, this skidding off the runway, look what it did to the actual tarmac, to the actual concrete. again, this was a hard landing tonight, last hour involving the republican nominee for vice president and his campaign jet. we ll talk with someone who was on that flight when it went off the runway. somebody who says interestingly this is not the first time mike pence s plane has had a really bad landing, which is an interesting thing. why s that? that s next. members of the press were on that plane. we also think we saw a congressman from texas. we heard that a 737 usually comes in for a landing at 155 miles an hour and when it s a wet, slick night like tonight, this kind of thing can happen. but the faa and maybe the ntsb will be looking into this incident to determine exactly what caused it here. i ll show you again, this is what the plane did to the tarmac at laguardia as it slid off the runway. i didn t know that that happened when you slid off a runway. all the air traffic at laguardia was suspended for over an hour in the wake of this incident. we are told as soon as the plane came to a rest following its rough landing and its slide into the grass with mud flying up and hitting the windows, governor pence immediately came to the back of the plane to check that everybody was okay. god bless him, that s the right thing to do. as you can see he s fine. he also stopped with photos with first responders in the rain. he had been scheduled to attend a fund-raiser in new york city tonight but his spokesman said instead he is headed to his hotel for the night, absolutely totally understandable. about an hour after the incident the governor tweeted so thankful everyone on our plane is safe. grateful for our first responders and the concern and prayers of so many. back on the trail tomorrow. again, the most important thing here is no injuries as far as we know. but certainly some jangled nerves and some rushes of adrenaline and none of us need any of that at this time. joining us now is a man onboard that plane, vaughn hillyard. he was on the plane when it slid off the runway. vaughn, let me shake your hand. i m glad you re okay. were you scared? no. the crazy part is this wasn t the first time first time we ve gone off the runway, but we ve had a lot of shaky incidents in the past. hard impact, tough landings. we actually pulled out the phone this time and i snapped originally about ten seconds of video, which i m trying to get into the system here eventually for everybody, but the crazy part was originally we had the hard impact and then we went two or three seconds and that s with we started to swerve off to the right. and then all of a sudden we come to just a hard crashing stop. and that s when you looked out the window and you can see that the road was oddly close to where the plane was at. the road with cars on it. the road with cars. the circle k across the street. that s when it became real. so when you say you were trying to get tape, you were filming as you were landing. is that because you were expecting a hard landing because you ve had so many? it s a joke. it s a joke how long are we going to last. that s the part the fact that i m on with you tonight is sort of the interesting end of this. this camera, we ve captured a lot of crazy things in this campaign, but to get to the point where this is the news of the night was wait a second. you re saying it s become a joke how long are we going to last. you re saying that the hard landings on the pence campaign plane specifically are so frequent and so notable that it s a point of discussion among the press corps? yes. and i ll be honest that i ve never pursued that. we haven t pursued asking questions further about that because usually we don t fly on private, i guess, charter flights on campaign. this is my first campaign covering so we just took it for granted. have you only had bad landings in heavy weather? no. we landed in ft. dodge, iowa, earlier and we had another rough landing where we hit. it felt like we went back into the air. you could see the blue sky again. of course we didn t go off the runway at that point. i m just going to put this to you. i ve got a i went back and looked at my earlier coverage about something involving the mike pence campaign. i am sure this is just coincidental, but this is not the first time that we on this show have talked about issues involving mike pence s campaign plane. and i ve never been on that campaign plane so it s not like i was reporting a personal experience. it was late last month we learned that the pilot, who is entrusted with the trump campaign with flying the pence campaign and his press corps and his family around the country, he made news because he was fired for an unusual reason. the guardian was first to report that the pilot for the pence plane until one month ago was a retired police officer in addition to being pence s pilot. he was the chairman of donald trump s florida law enforcement coalition. and the guardian reported that he was actively facing criminal charges of aggravated battery with a deadly weapon. in 2015 he had allegedly driven over a co-worker with his car three times on purpose, causing the co-worker severe physical injuries. his name is vincent caldera. he pled not guilty to those charges but it turned out those weren t the only charges against him. he was accused of a similar incident in 2014. in that case he was accused of driving into a woman with his motorcycle on purpose and seriously injuring her. the guardian reported last month he hadn t actually been formally charged in relation to that episode because they hadn t been able to locate him to serve him with legal papers. meanwhile he s flying the vice presidential candidate around the country. so that s the pilot who got fired from the pence campaign plane last month. do you know who they replaced him with? i do not know who the gentleman is. they switch people out. so it s rotating? so it s a rotating basis, yeah. how old are you? 25. have you done a lot of flying in your reporting job and in your personal life? yes. is the pence campaign plane the only campaign plane on which you have had hard landings like this? that s accurate. that s really weird. john hillyard. i don t know what the relationship is between these two halves of this story, but knowing that this runway thing happened tonight after a series of hard landings that was a topic of discussion by you guys, it weirds me out and we will try to get to the bottom of it. and i m glad that you re okay. thanks. appreciate it. nbc news embed vaughn hillyard. he s great. important step forward. the time is long overdue. pharmaceutical industry. passes - the ballot. his democratic opponent, congressman patrick murphy, is somewhere between two points down and tied with rubio in recent polls. murphy, the democrat, has the endorsement of all four of florida s largest newspapers, including the big ones that endorsed marco rubio before this election. and perhaps most importantly, hillary clinton is doing great in florida. and the democrats have a huge ground operation in florida. this is a senate race that the democrats could win. why are they pulling out? on monday s show, i put this mystery to steve shale, a veteran democratic operative in florida. and he couldn t explain it either. he told us here, quote, i think the momentum has definitely headed murphy s way and i don t understand the democrats decision. well, tonight the democratic party has apparently decided that they also do not understand their decision. at least some democrats have decided that. a spokesman for the biggest super pac supporting senate democrats this year, one of the super pacs that previously pulled millions of dollars in florida ad buys earlier this month, that super pac says tonight that they have changed their minds about marco rubio versus patrick murphy. they have changed their minds about pulling out. they have now decided that they re going to make a, quote, seven-figure transfer into that florida senate race to try to help out patrick murphy in his effort to oust marco rubio from his senate seat. of course it s very late, right? a lot of people in florida have already voted. more than two million people have already voted in florida. but if i were patrick murphy s campaign manager and i had a choice between getting outside help late or getting outside help never, i d pick late. i d pick late. seriously, is there anyone more inspiring than michelle obama? and maybe, maybe it s especially meaningful to me because i do know something about first lady of the united states. today first lady hillary clinton former first lady hillary clinton and current first lady michelle obama shared the stage at a campaign event in north carolina. this was their first appearance together. an important one for hillary clinton because north carolina s really, really important this year. and michelle obama is one of the most beloved figures in all of american politics. but there was one piece of business basically that transacted between hillary clinton and michelle obama today at this event. i think it got largely overlooked among all the badly needed good vibes at this event. but what happened between them today, an announcement made by them today that was a surprise announcement is something that i think is important and fascinating and we ve got it coming up straight ahead right at the end of the show tonight. it s good news and we ve pegged it right at the end of the show. stay tuned for that. coordination and the extent of that coordination is something that is now materially important to the breaking news that we reported here last night after the democratic party last night filed papers in federal court in new jersey asking that court to hold the republican party in violation of an ancient consent decree that dates back to the 1980s. it dates back to an election in which the national republican party sent basically vigilante poll watchers into minority precincts in 1981. many of them wore guns, they wore these ballot security task force arm bands and they patrolled voting sites in dozens of precincts that had mostly minority voters. and the republicans did very, very, very narrowly win that governor s race in new jersey that year. but the democratic party sued over this ballot security task force thing. and the democrats won that case. and the republicans signed on to a consent decree because of it. and now, 35 years later, the republican party is still trying to get out from under the legal restrictions that were put on them because of that case. and in the midst of that, here s what donald trump has been saying out on the campaign trail. we have a lot of law enforcement people working that day. we re hiring a lot of people. we re putting a lot of law enforcement. we have some great people here, some great leaders here of the republican party, and they re very concerned about that. and that s the way we could lose the state. so important that you watch other communities, because we don t want this election stolen from us. when i say watch, you know what i m talking about, right? you know what i m talking about. you know what i m talking about. we re going to have law enforcement doing this. we don t want this election stolen from us. we have some great leaders of the republican party. donald trump is not under a consent decree that dates back to the 1980s on this subject. the rnc is under a consent decree that dates back to the 1980s on this subject. i mean technically donald trump himself can go out and talk about all of this stuff, but the rnc under this consent decree, they can t take part in any of it. it has to be crystal clear that there s no working together here between the trump campaign and the rnc on issues of ballot integrity and poll watching on election day, particularly when those efforts target minority districts. if there is coordination, that may be a problem. the democratic party now argues that would be a violation of that consent decree. i finally pulled aside kellyanne conway and said what is the campaign going to do. is this the central strategy to contest the election. she said she s actively working with the republican national committee, the official party and campaign lawyers to monitor precincts around the country. so this isn t just an outside campaign and outside candidate. he s tying himself to the republican party with him. it s a tremendous question and i will tell you that the trump campaign and the republican national committee are working very, very closely with state governments and secretary of state of states all over the country to ensure ballot integrity. working very, very, very, closely. i should say you just saw robert costa reporting what he had heard from kellyanne conway saying that the trump campaign is actively working with the rnc to monitor precincts around the country. after kellyanne conway told robert costa that and he reported it here on msnbc, kellyanne conway walked that statement back and the rnc is aggressively denying this coordination. but how about mike pence saying, right, that this ballot integrity is a tremendous question this year and the rnc, the republican national committee, is working very, very closely with the trump campaign to ensure ballot integrity. how about that? he didn t walk that back. part of the dnc filing from last night alleges that the republican party and the trump campaign are sharing staff, they re sharing resources, they re coordinating these things. there s so much coordination that there are no lines delineating where one starts and another ends. the rnc, according to this complaint, quote, commingled its staff and resources with the trump campaign and so it is impossible to separate the two. that s what the democratic party is alleging. arguably, that s what they re asking the court to determine. that s the crux of this whole thing. when the trump campaign promises it s going to do this in these cities, as trump says, inner cities in swing states, is he talking about doing that alone or is the rnc involved? let me leave you with one more thing that seems relevant here. this is the head of the rnc, reince priebus, speaking on sunday. i don t mean his response to the debate, just in general when he goes out and says the election is rigged, he said it last night. i think he s trying to also tell his folks to watch out for this fraud that might occur. he s trying to tell his folks to watch out for this fraud that might occur, says the head of the rnc. on one hand reince priebus is decoding donald trump there on cbs this weekend. on the other hand, i want to know about the rnc and this threat to rig the election and this fraud that might occur and whether the rnc is working on this. tell me more, mr. head of the republican party. oh, you re not here. let s instead ask ben ginsburg, former general counsel and an msnbc analyst. i am not asking you to be reince priebus or to defend reince priebus. i appreciate that. but i do want you to give me your view on what s going on right now with this complaint. you re the man who said that you could basically guarantee that the democrats were going to make this court filing once you saw what the trump campaign was talking about on the campaign trail. yeah, and what i added to that and what i sort of said directly later in the evening was that in fact that activity was not taking place because well, i don t want the rnc, but i do know that the rnc takes the consent decree very seriously. what you have is some bad rhetoric, but not the actions. so the whole consent decree itself and the sort of muscling up in polling places has been a black mark on the republican party. that has harmed it not only reputationally, which is why the democrats or pursuing this consent decree, but also really politically. and so all in all, this is a moment that the republican national committee wants to get beyond so that it can engage with its state parties in the permissible looking at the elections. an important component of being sure that the voters understand that the election is fair and is not rigged and the practices in the polling places are being conducted correctly. that s part of this that i ve been trying to get a handle on. i m glad to hear you explain it that way, because on the one hand what the republican party got nailed for in the 80s was comic book egregious, but i haven t really understood what i m assuming the republican party doesn t want to do the arm bands and off-duty guns, i m assuming, although we could no, we won t make that argument. let s assume that the republican party doesn t. what does the republican party want to do that s not racist, that s not egregious, that s not suppressive, that they re prohibited from doing by this consent decree? why do they feel so constrained? every state, every state allows representatives of the political parties or campaigns or a combination of the two to observe what goes on in the polling place. that is a matter of being able to ensure the fairness of elections. as a national party committee, it would be helpful for the republican national committee to participate in those permissible, lawful activities just as the democratic national committee does now. and the dnc can do that now and the rnc because of that consent decree, they can t. correct. so when you say that the rnc is not doing anything that might violate that consent decree, they re not doing any of this poll watching stuff, they re not working on it, they can t be they can give advice to the so what about mike pence saying we re working very closely with the rnc on ballot integrity issues and making sure this isn t stolen. i can t speak for him. i do know he made that statement in august and we re now in october and none of those activities of the republican national committee personnel working in the polling place, activities has taken place as far as i know or as far as the democrats could say. what about the rnc staff working basically in-house at the trump campaign now. you know, rnc like sean spicer has been working basically in-house with the trump campaign. if one of the things the trump campaign is doing is getting people to sign up to go be poll watchers, does that mean that the rnc with having their staff inside the trump campaign, that they re in effect participating in it? no, because i think the way they re working it is that you ve got a sort of a unit, the field people, trying to get people in place to be able to observe as they re allowed to under state laws. i think the rnc personnel have at least been given instructions to not participate in those activities. gives this so much heat and energy, we have already heard that they ve asked, the judge has asked for this to move really fast. they ve asked for the parties to be in court on wednesday morning. there s a long tradition of being in the federal district court nowhere close to the elections. thank you. stay with us. we ll be right back. [cheers and applause] and maybe, maybe it s especially meaningful to me, because i do know something about being first lady of the united states. she has been first lady of arkansas, first lady of the united states, secretary of state. she has [ crowd chanting hillary ] yeah. that s right. hillary doesn t play. hillary doesn t play. that was hillary clinton and michelle obama today in winston-salem, north carolina. this is the first time they have done a joint campaign appearance. and, as that was kind of, we played that bit there to give you a sense of the vibe there. i think basically taking turns heaping praise on one another, and this event was one of hillary clinton s biggest events of the entire campaign. there were apparently 14,000 people there at this north carolina rally today. and this was a good one to choose to be a big one, because michelle obama was there. one of the most beloved figures in politics right now. one of the most popular figures in politics, certainly among democrats, particularly among african-american democrats, and a absolutely key constituency. this may have been one of hillary clinton s most important appearances today. and it was warm. and hillary clinton was at her best, and it was probably one of the most effective things she has done. but. what might be most important here is we got an answer to a question that has been floating around the obama family s pending departure from the white house. now this has not been covered widely today. maybe everybody else doesn t see this as the biggest deal of the world. i realize that the fate of the free world does not rely on this question. but, you know, it s a stressful time. in this most stressful of elections, we here at the show and we in my family have been chewing on our fingernails a little bit, wondering with a little bit of actual stress what s going to happen to the white house vegetable garden. what is going to happen to it? the kitchen garden planted by first lady michelle obama. this has been a passion of her time in the white house, for almost the entire time she s been there, she s been building it up, maintaining it and showing it off. recently, expanding it. and different presidents and their families do different things to the white house, there are no guarantees that the next occupants will keep anything that the last occupants of the white house did to the grounds. the new president would be absolutely free to plow the vegetable garden under, if they like, right? jimmy carter, you want to put solar panels on the white house, ronald reagan wants to take them down. really expect melania trump or bill clinton to be out there tending to the turnips and harvesting the okra? really? are they going to keep it? as her time grows short, michelle obama has hardened the garden s defenses. she unveiled an expanded garden now twice its original size and it s got hard parts. stone walkways and planters made from concrete and steel and picnic tables and stuff. first lady michelle obama announced a multi-million dollar grant for maintaining it. so it won t be an excuse if they wanted to get rid of the garden for that reason. not incidentally, michelle obama planted a couple of crops that are in the ground now that won t be ready for harvest until the spring, when there s a new president. what are you going to do? waste that food? so it s been a discussion. will the next president keep the garden or put up a parking lot? today we got an answer. at least if hillary clinton wins. now she also planted an amazing vegetable garden at the white house. [cheers and applause] and i can promise you, if i win, i will take good care of it, michelle. [cheers and applause] if hillary clinton wins the election, the garden lives! look how happy that makes michelle obama. i don t really totally understand why i m so attached to this vegetable garden, beyond the obvious reasons that i am a card-carrying member of the
her next book should be called kate s rights. kristen tate. he was raised by a moose. comedian nathan mcintosh. she will address me as your honor. remi spencer. and even when he googles himself it asks did you meet jimmy fallon? i love that one. let s start the show. donald trump sat down with his likely successor and according to e! news where i get all of my political news during the 15-minute meeting they discussed the possibility of kanye becoming the ambassador of sorts in an he said they are repeating themselves. rather than learning what keeps this country safe and what this job will entail he is meeting with kanye west. he has weeks before he is moving to the white house. and kanye west is a person who repeats himself. he is walt disthee and he is steve walt disney and he is steve jobs and kim kardashian is the best. it is disgusting that you would meet rappers. no rappers. no. but wait, i think that i think trump is he has plenty of time. he is ahead of where other president-elects were, the most in history. he has the cabinet and we will talk about his cabinet picks. he is getting a lot of work done, is he not? he read on twitter that you can get the best taco bowls. and the other one is i looked at his entrance like this wasn t a planned meeting. i know they walked out and made it look good. elvis surprised nixon. nixon was like, screw him, let him up. kanye didn t walk in like he was supposed to be there. he hustled. remember that scene in pee- wee s big adventure and he pretends he is with the old man. that was kanye sneaking into the elevator. they went up and made the best of it. they are similar. pee-wee and kanye? kanye and trump. they have a sense of their ego, right? they are always bragging about things. both of their wives have tried to take their twitter away at points. both of their wives are i will stop what i was going to say. they are what they are. they are both beautiful. yes. you can t not say that. mobile ceo. the w stands for winning. lawmakers in both parties have warned that tillerson could face scrutiny for his long relationship with russia. he ordered him the order of friendship. like most of trump s cabinet they don t have prior government experience and that s a bad thing according to some people. politico did a tally. two generals and two bankers and three business executives. one billionaire philanthropist and zero democrats. sounds great to me. actually there will be two governors in the cabinet. trump is reportedly planning to pick former texas governor rick perry as secretary of energy. one thing i love about perry is he has a clean signature. he prints it and spaces the letters out like everyone should. i say let s make signatures readable. spread the word with the hash tag. i am going to change the way i write. vee more. anyway, before he comes secretary of energy he will have to step down as vanilla ice s dj. the kid don t play if there was a problem yo i ll solve it check out my hook while the dj revolves it rick perry! that s a real thing? that s a real thing. that is a real thing. i think you are too young to remember, but vanilla ice was a rapper. that was a longtime ago. i think perry all of the rappers get in line. i love rick perry. he is awesome. and i love the cabinet that trump is putting together. i am so happy that he is not putting all of these political pukes in his cabinet. we know how government bureaucrats are doing in power. he is putting businessmen in there and people with real track records of experience. community organizers will no longer run this country. and you know, what i do is i love appointees that make liberals more mad. the more the liberals hate the people trump picks the more i love them. i think liberals are a little upset because rick perry was under indictment for the last year. it is a big political horse and pony show. actually a grand jury indicted him. he was indicted for criminal abuse. he wouldn t step down after he was convicted for a dwi. he wanted her to step down and she wouldn t step down. she was threatening to veto legislation. but shouldn t she have stepped down? i thought she should have whether she should or shouldn t have did this man abuse his power in office to accomplish a goal? and when you are threatening vetoing legislation you have to resign that is technically an abuse of his power. it doesn t mean he didn t do it and it didn t mean he didn t violate the laws, and he was under indictment. that was one of the primary reasons that people and not just democrats, but republicans alike are disappointed in this choice for such an important position in the cabinet. i like what is happening. he has the ceo and rick perry for energy. i think we will see a change in the way we deal with energy. do you think? he is the first guy to lead a department and he couldn t remember the name of it. nothing you said is as remotely offensive as that video. i know you don t know him as a rapper, but probably as an uber driver. listen to me. this is the one thing i admired about his transition process is he is creating an environment you can do bu politics. everybody is greeted with a handshake and a smile and it looks like ideas are being exchanged. there has been an exchange of ideas and he is bringing in people from other processes. is that a word? i went to community college. i think i have been here and trump is in the wwe hall of fame. he has hired linda mcman who was the wife of vince mcman. trump and linda mcman have both taken stone cold stunners in front of the large groups of people. there are two people in that building that have taken stone cold stunners. in a few years they will say please, politicians again. politicians. i mean that s it. trump is an an antidote for the politics we have it in the past. what do you think about the award of friendship? with russia? why is it a bad thing if we can work with russia. i don t understand. all. hate is liberals trying to point fingers. that s what this russia talk is all about. it can t just be that. let s say it is and we go to the next story. uber can ban you for being too flirty. the company released new guidelines for passenger behavior. among them, no smoking and no vomiting and no abusive language and no flirting. it is okay to chat with someone else in the car, but don t if they have single and don t touch or flirt with other people in the car. passengers could lose access to the service. new york city s taxi drivers recently released their 2017 calendar. this will really keep me warm in the winter months. look at that. love that pink tank, man. and there is one more. let s see it. put that away. as samantha from sex and the city might say. first of all what were you doing holding what looked to be a dangerous snake? when my book came out we had a show called snakes on the cab and we drove around picking up people in the cab and they would be like we are going to 83rd and second. those were just what if something bad happened? you weren t afraid somebody would jump out? we were pretty careful about who we pranked. more importantly it was shot with go pro s and made it look more ominous than it it was. you could restrain the snake. at least you thought you could. what about this calendar? they try to piggyback on the back of the fireman thing. they realized that they couldn t compete from a sex appeal standpoint so they went with like the schtick. and i love uber decided vomiting is legal. and you can t even smooch with other passengers. like after a date you get the girl to make out with you in the car? not in uber apparently. i thought the rules were directed initially to the driver and the passenger. i had some uber drivers and taxi drivers that get really personal and they want to talk and ask you all kinds of questions. when they find out i m a lawyer they want legal advice. i had a driver hand me a contract and asked me to look at it. no joke. he is like am i really going to get 72 virgins? the good thing about my practice area i can say is at least i can give you some advice. it is good to have you around. it makes sense that somebody who owns their own car and is nice enough to work a few hours on the woke end so they don t have to watch you have sex in it. you think it is protecting the driver? this is her car. this is their vehicle. it is a party in there. i you hose it down. these rules are ridiculous. there is a granny sitting in the backseat and she can get him a smooch on the cheek. no vomiting some glad they told me that. the next time i am in an uber and i feel like i will vomit i won t. can i say this as a cabdriver? i am in favor of the no hooking up code for the passengers. i really am. do people used to get it on in the people hookup, but it is never who you want to see. good looking people have options. they have places they can go to hookup. people say have you ever seen people have sex in your cab? i listened to people have sex. i looked at like two. ugly people have apartments too. there is a weird spontaneity among other people where they throw down with a different level of aggression because they don t feel like they will fall out of the sky again. there are no standards and practices. dot ugly people throw up harder? they do it with more spontaneity. the u.n says wonder woman is too scantily clad. good thing nobody listens to the u.n. undo bird on a woman s access for abortion. and rebels in eastern aleppo have accepted a cease-fire and return it to government fors. the u.n is looking at mass atrocities including the deaths of 82 civilians killed by bombings and executions. the town of newtown, connecticut will mark a grim anniversary today. it was four years ago when 20 children and six teachers were gunned down at the sandy hook elementary school. the victims with i will be remembered with a moment of silence and prayer services. county el month iys are asked not to do any work between 9:30 and 9:45 a.m. that s when the shootings took place. be sure to bundle up in the midwest and northeast. arctic cold is expected to spread. highs in the northern plains and the upper midwest will range from 20 to 30 degrees below average today. i m patricia stark. now back to red eye. for more news go to foxnews.com. the united nations has a campaign for an ambassador for women and girls. not everyone saw it that way. some saw a sexy spokeswoman as sexist. there was a petition. it read a large breasted white woman of impossible proportions in a simmer re shimmery motif. i signed it and said sounds great. if you want to spread your message to men you need that stuff to get their attention. that s the beauty of wonder woman. they see her and find her attractive and then they don t take it seriously and she kicks their ass. they will inspire girls to self-confidence and occupations monopolized by men. let s compare her skateboard skills to another famous u.n ambassador. it was hard for him to track down criminals. he couldn t get out of that mode. that is the difference between him not getting secretary of state. somebody leaked that. jimmy, is wonder woman sexist? if you are getting your self-worth from a ambassador you have problems. there are women getting stoned for reading. they have angry birds. they want to do they will be engaging in this anyway. it seems silly. she is not a real person. since she was an ambassador, do you think it was legitimate? i think it was ridiculous. i think the whole thing was ridiculous. i grew up watching wonder woman on tv. that was linda carter. right. i i remember watching it with my granted mother and twin brother. she was a positive role model. yes she is can scantily clad, but they take it so serious and get so sensitive on these topics. maybe she should wear a little more clothing, but i don t think speak for yourself. i don t think it was a negative role model. she does embody empower meant and gender equality and i think it attracts females and males to the issue at happened. i think it is a shame they had to let her go after two months. that s it. i used to watch wonder woman too, but i wouldn t have watched her unless she was gorgeous. i never liked wonder woman. i liked spider-man. now that the u.n has deemed wonder woman inappropriate i love wonder woman. the only thing i hate more than boring superheros are beurocrats telling us how to live. i say the u.n should get rid of them and she is better than them anyway. they need a transgender depressed overweight woman because that will make them all feel better and month one will have to be upset. they did say they wanted alternate representations of women. i was going to suggest dog the bounty hunter s wife. is she a hottie? she is a big lady. have you ever seen her? she has like arms of truth. you would tell her what happened. jie do you have a problem with do you have a problem with hot women as role models? it is body shaming, is it not? i suppose. there has to be real women. does it have to be a fake woman? uh-huh track tiff attractive women aren t real women? attractive women don t exist and they most certainly do. half time request andy levey. and the red eye pod cast is available now. subscribe on itunes at foxnewsradio.com. ?[t1a live from america s news headquarters i m patricia stark. authorities in boulder, colorado say they are looking at new dna technology that could help them solve the 20-year-old murder case of jonbenet ramsey. the colorado bureau of investigation is about to unveil this new technology and it also taps into a database that includes genetic profiles of more than 15 million known offenders and uh resties. jonbenet ramsey was found dead in her parents home the day after christmas, 1996. president obama signed legislation that will invest $2 billion in cancer research. they give $2 billion to the state to fight opioid abuse. another record setting day on wall street on tuesday helping push most international stocks higher in trading. the dow jones industrials rose 114 points to pull to within 89 points of the 20,000 level. and the s&p 500 index rose almost 15 points to 2271. all markets will be watching today s federal reserve meeting. the central bank is expected to announce the first u.s. interest rate hike since december of 2015. iraqi special forces are making gains against isis fighters in mosul. the military said special forces are less than three miles away from the tigress river that running through iraq s second largest city. and dolly parton is headlining a list of who s who of the country music world on tuesday night. it is a telethon to help those affected by the recent wildfires in the smoky mountains. parton s dollywood foundation plans to give each resident $1,000 a month for six months to get back on their feet. the telethon raised more than $2 million. i m patricia stark and now back to red eye. they held a rally in wisconsin. now we have some clips. trump addressed the recount lead by the green party candidate, jill stein. the recount vote has come back. you know, i called it a scam, but i won t say that because we want to be nice. i refuse to say it is a scam so this way they can t report i said it. he expressed his love for paul ryan. speaker, paul ryan. i really have come to oh no. i have come to appreciate him. speaker paul ryan. where is the speaker? where is he? i tell you, he has been terrific. i tell you, honestly he is like a fine wine. every day goes by and i can appreciate his genius more and more. now if he ever goes against me i will not say that. he took a poll on if time should have a person of the year or man of the year. and in the old days it was called the man of the year, right? now so let me do this. we have a lot of women here and i have to do it. do you mind? would you prefer i will go person of the year and man of the year and person of the year and man of the year. what should it be? i am doing it for all of you politicians. not that we are going to change at this point. would you rather see person of the year? man of the year? these guys are so politically correct. so far i have done that three times and person of the year is not doing wealth. he is having a good time. this is trump at his best. did you see the christmas trees behind him? the war on christmas is dead. we can finally say merry christmas in this country without fear. he did have a sign. it said merry christmas on the sign. yes. he is having a blast. what about the people who booed paul ryan? to nathan s . about trump in wwe, it cements that. that is a pro-wrestling drill. dumping on paul ryan indicative of them not knowing where trump stands with ryan today. they might have read like two dispatches ago where they were not friends anymore. it does change a lot. he said if he disagrees he can go back with me. he said paul ryan was like a fine wine. what do you think he meant by that? well since he has uh nounsed that he announced he never drank alcohol i think he is telling us he has no idea. that s my take. look, it sbt politics. he is not doing policy. it is all silliness. it is sad though. it is like this man is going to run things. you think the thank you things wouldn t be do you think this should be called person of the year or man of the year? it is like a stand up show. the t point is you can t say woman of the year. you sucked me into this. we have to go. does the baywatch movie have too much eye candy? it is the debate you don t want to miss. baywatch is getting a reboot unlike the show. i found it too serious. the movie is all about babes and beaches and bathing suits and having fun. biggie, biggie, biggie i just love your flashy ways. do you see it too? the trailer was released last week and the movie comes out in 2017, but not everyone is excited about it. to the tweets. one woman wrote, are we seriously not over sexualizing women and fronting unrealistic body standards? another said, woi, they have baywatch hipper sexualizing men and women. 1k3 one more it turns out the casual masogany. who knew? the first baywatch is how i got my first break. the people who tweeted that, they voted for trump. they did? it was never it was always in this spirit, was it not? the same people who have a problem with linda carter and wonder woman wearing a pretty outfit are those who have a problem with baywatch. if you watch baywatch you know that s what it is about. pretty people running around with little bathing suits on. if you don t want to see it, don t watch it. baywatch was a worldwide phenomenon. i had the david hasselhoff shorts and the hair. this is a popcorn movie and it is meant to be fun. there is no real reason to get upset. this is a dumb movie. what were they expecting? i have never seen baywatch and i know what it is about. they should make the movie with clinically obese people. it would be a big hit and it would be reflective of our society. you re right, you could learn a lesson. no one going to see baywatch knows what this means. i happen to be writing jokes for one of the original cast members, pam, pamela anderson. oh, the roast. they have no [bleep] idea what is going on in the movie. the problem is we are fighting the wrong battles in the country. no one should care what is going on in baywatch you have bigger fish to fry. that does it for me. i m tom shillue and i ll see you next time. or us.
flight, an air canada flight, arrived in that very terminal on a flight from alaska earlier today, that he waited for his luggage along with the other passengers on that flight, that he retrieved his bags where he had checked firearms. these are firearms that you can legally check with the airline. and he legally was able to do that. he went to a bathroom, retrieved the firearm and came back out and started shooting. according to the initial investigations, it doesn t appear that he was targeting anyone in particular. he appeared to be shooting ram donnelly. there was no rym or reason to the shooting. but it appears that a lot of the people who he would have shot and some of the people that were killed might have been some of the passengers that were on this flight. again, he came on a flight, an air canada flight we re told, that came from alaska and landed earlier at ft. lauderdale international airport. again, this is a twist on something we ve never seen before. again, we ve seen shootings at airports where people come from outside the airport with firearms. you don t normally see somebody coming from an aircraft that s gone through security, again, with secured luggage. and then retrieving a firearm. this is not something that we ve seen before. again, this is still early in the investigation. there s still a lot of witnesses to be interviewed. there s surveillance camera footage to look at to see exactly how long this took. we don t know everything about his movements. again he appeared to arrive on this flight and then started shooting once he emerged from the bathroom. evan perez, stay there. i know you ll continue to speak to law enforcement sources here in washington. i want to go to cnn s boris sanchez, he is live at ft. lauderdale/hollywood international airport. i know that just after the shooting, there was a great deal of confusion and fear at the airport. we saw pictures of people after the gunman was taken, still running in fear. but now police are saying they re confident there was just a lone gunman here. that s right, jim. we actually heard from the broward county sheriff about 20 to 30 minutes ago and he told us that reports of a second shooter were unsubstantiated, they were simply rumors. we heard people screaming and running shortly after we saw a group of about six armed and heavily armed uniformed officers running across from terminal 2. this is terminal 2, this is where the shooting happened. this is the second floor. the shooting happened on the lower level in baggage claim. we saw the officers running across into these parking garages here and that s what really kicked off just panic here. there were people running in all directions from terminal 2 on to the runways from terminal 1, down here to where we re standing now, and then on to the runways. it was sheer chaos. things are much calmer now, but as the sheriff of broward county said earlier, this is still a fluid situation. officers from just about every jurisdiction and the southeastern part of florida are here. there are helicopters in the air, tactical vehicles as you saw a moment ago driving around. this is still an ongoing investigation. as you said, and as you heard from evan earlier, it appears that the shooter in this case arrived on an air canada flight, terminal 2 is the delta and air canada terminal, and then he apparently, sources say, went into the rest room, retrieved a weapon from his bag, and opened fire, killing at least five people, eight others were rushed to the hospital. there s no word yet on a motive. we understand that the shooter was put into custody without incident. he s being questioned as you said by local and federal investigators. one interesting point to note, especially because we saw so many officers go into these parking garages, i asked the broward county sheriff if, perhaps, they had identified a vehicle here at the ft. lauderdale airport that might belong to the shooter. he told me that at the time we were speaking to him he did not have a vehicle that belonged to the shooter that they were able to identify. again, this is a very delicate situation. still there are hundreds of people that are stranded. i believe we actually have one here now. sir, nice to meet you. nice to meet you. hear the initial shots. i heard the commotion. i was actually i just had back surgery and i was in a wheelchair and just had gotten through security so i saw the commotion and heard the people. i thought maybe just a fight or something had broken out at security. i actually was at the first gate that the wheelchair stopped at and got a call from my mom saying, what s going on. and i had no idea. i just heard the screaming. and not five minutes later, people came running down the hall screaming gun, gunman was coming. so everybody, you know, ran and luggage flying, purses flying, and i can t move very fast because of my surgery so i got up and started hobbling and all the restaurants were closing their cages and getting people into hiding places and a woman frozen kind of in the middle of the hallway and her child made it into the gate, so i took her into a corridor. we were stuck in that corridor about the last 45 minutes or so and then escorted out with guys with long guns and moved us away from the glass. so it does sound like maybe it was an unsubstantiated second threat. but people certainly weren t acting like it. ryan, it must have been horribly frightening for you, particularly you re injured. were people coming to your aid? what was the response from law enforcement and others inside the airport as this was happening? you know, a lot of confusion at first because people were aware that something has happened adjacent to us, but once everybody started running, i have to say the jetblue personnel, which is what i was flying, were great and the cops that came in initially the broward county sheriff local guys, they were great. i mean, since i was kind of stuck in a corridor with a woman who was frozen in fear, they just kind of guarded us on either side and stood there. and then like i said, finally escorted us out once some guys with long guns came in and they were homeland security guys, fbi, and now escorted us outside and kept us away from the windows. still see a lot of helicopters, lot of action but it seems to be calming down, but they definitely are still riding by with on the trunk of the cars with long guns out. so definitely not giving us the clear. in the midst of it i m told you shielded a child? there was a during the chaos? actually it was his mom. the child sat about ten feet from her and i handed the child to the chile s employee that was closing the gate quickly so they could hide and i ran back over, pushed the mom into a corner and laid on top of her. i m a big guy, so it was easy to cover her up. she was frozen. ryan, i m sorry you had to experience this, for anybody who went through this firsthand, but thank you for the help that you gave to others in need there. we appreciate it. i want to bring in the national security analyst julia kayyem, former assistant secretary for homeland security and phil mudd, a former cry counter terror aficial, tom fuentes, assistant fbi director with me here in washington. tom, a couple of things i would like to run by you in light of your experience. one, if you want to find a police with a big police presence it s, of course, america s airports today. this shooter struck in one of the least protected areas, in baggage claim, outside the security perimeter. baggage claim is open because people are arriving and may have luggage checked in. family members and others help them. they drive up and park, go to baggage claim, help them carry their stuff out. so yeah, they don t go through magna tumors to get in. you can have a threat from outside the airport easily or true in this case, if he had a gun in checked luggage, he can hide in a bathroom and go out on the sidewalk and come back in and begin shooting if that s what actually happened. julia kayyem, this is a situation, rare, that you have the shooter taken in custody unharmed. eyewitnesss have said that after firing these shots, he, in effect, laid down on the ground and waited to be taken. police able to take thhim, they say, with no shots fired. how unusual is that in your experience? it s very unusual for a preplanned attack. normally if this was something he flew across the country, at least from our understanding, you know, from alaska to florida, with a plan on doing this attack, you would think that his exit strategy was either to get out of the airport or to be killed. so this is very rare. so the other theory talking to law enforcement agents right now that i m hearing, the other theory is that something happened at the airport that triggered this, an altercation or something in baggage claim. those would be the only two theories, he didn t plan it, but he happened to have guns, or that the guns were, you know, sort of on the airplane and he planned to do this. because the rarity of getting someone who just sit downs and says here, take me away, has to be explained somehow and so those are the two theories of the case that investigators are looking at right now. and the suspect being questioned now. phil mudd if i can draw on your experience, i m told by officials that he had possible mental health issues, but, of course, it s early. the department of homeland security telling us there was no known motive at this time. tell us, if you can, the kinds of questions, the kinds of work investigators are doing now to figure out why he did this? first of all, i wouldn t be asking the question why at the moment. the first question is who. is there anybody else involved. was there a co-conspirator. if he s not mentally stable my first questions would be where are his friends, family, associates, does he have social media accounts that might suggest he was communicating to somebody about an attack. after that, i might get into motive. why did you do this. was it just a random act of violence. i m with juliette. this is odd you would bother to go across the country and buy a ticket to engage in a shooting incident at an airport against civilians whom you don t know. if you wanted to kill people why wouldn t you do it at the point of origin. a lot of unanswered questions. the first one, is there a single other person out there. that takes a while to figure that one out. tom, it is a way, though, to get a gun into an airport, is it not? put it in your checked baggage, legally check it, declare it, and when you pick it up you have a gun in an airport. i suppose you could walk into the baggage area as well because that s a place where, you know, there might be police around but you don t have to walk through metal detectors. hundreds of people travel legitimately with their firearms to go on a hunting trip or off-duty law enforcement or other military that may have weapons and check them in. there s procedures each airline has. tsa has for checking in a secure manner a firearm in your luggage, you know, making sure it has the right lock box and ammunition. the main issue is that firearm is not in the cabin. they re not in position to hijack the aircraft. when the plane lands they recover their luggage at baggage claim and once again they re reunited with their firearm. so yes, they could shoot on the front end of that through the detectors or ticket counter or on the back end when they recover it at the destination airport. julie ya kayyem, this is not the first time we ve seen shootings or terror attacks in that unsecured part of airports, remember look back at the istanbul attack a number of months ago in that area and the check-in area, outside of the security corridor, whenever that happens there s discussion why don t authorities move that cordon out further, right. is that something that homeland security has considered at various times and if so, why hasn t that step been take? well, it has been considered, but just to make it clear, so wherever you put the zone of security, there is going to be a zone of insecurity right next to it. you can move it out ten miles from the airport. mile 10.01 there will be insecurity. and the other aspect to this is, we are a global economy, global aviation. if you put too much security on any of these airports, you will i mean basically you re going to impede the movement of people and things. millions of people a day domestically fly and you re constantly weighing the challenge of security and flow. what we do see and i just, you know, to sort of say this looks like chaos, you know, look, sometimes there s organized chaos. this looks exactly how you would want it to look from a homeland security and public safety perspective. active shooter case you want people to flee. you don t want them to stay put. you have them shelter in place to ensure things are good. it looks bad but this is the way you want it to work because you want to protect people. you will never make the airports perfectly secure. a lot of it has to do with weapons and the achlts of weapons that are out there and so we shouldn t believe that if only we put the security, you know, further back everything would be okay. there s more we can do to protect these unsecured areas, but at some stage you will have an insecure area. juliette, tom, fim, stay there. we re continuing to follow this story and we will come right back to this breaking story. but first more breaking news. this is cnn breaking news. as i said, we have more breaking news on a separate story. one we ve been following for some time. the government has just released the declassified intelligence report blaming russia for cyber attacks during the 2016 presidential race. this has been a great deal of anticipation for this for some time. and i just want to draw your attention to a few headlines from this. it says that vladimir putin aspired to help donald trump win the election. that, the judgment of the u.s. intelligence community. i want to go to cnn s pamela brown who has the report. pamela, reading these pages here, first of all they make clear at the top, you know, that this is intelligence, it s classified, we can t lift the veil on everything, but we will in effect tell you as much as we can. that stood out to me. we assess that putin and the russian government aspired to help president-elect donald trump s election chances here. what other headlines come out at you from this report? well, it talks about the range of motivations here and as you point out, this report does not mince words. it comes out and says we believe vladimir putin med led in the election process and tried to hurt hillary clinton and help donald trump. it listed a few reasons why. one of which putin publicly pointed to the panama papers disclosure and the olympic doping scandals as ways that the united states was trying to undermine russia and so in the view of the u.s. intelligence, putin wanted to do this to get back at the united states. it says, he sought to use disclosures to discredit the image of the united states and cast it as hypocritical and it talks about why he wanted to undermine hillary clinton, saying he most likely wanted to discredit secretary clinton because he has publicly blamed her since 2011 for inciting mass protests against his regime in late 2011 and early 2012 and because he holds a grudge, he almost certainly saw disparaging against him. it talks about why the u.s. believes he tried to help donald trump. it says moscow saw the election of president-elect trump as a way to achieve an international counterterrorism coalition against the islamic state in iraq and it goes on to explain how the united states came to this conclusion. it says, we assess with high confidence that russian military intelligence, general staff main directorate, used the 2.0 persona and d.c. leaks.com as a way to release u.s. victim data. it says back in march that the military intelligence services stole these e-mails that we know were leaked from the dnc as well as john podesta, the clinton campaign chairman, and used this forum, the dcleaks.com and wikileaks in order to have the effect that the united states says russia wanted, which was to med dle in the process and help donald trump. it talked about the trolling operations, jim, and says it traced the likely financier of the so-called internet research agency, located in st. petersburg, russia, as a close putin ally with ties to russian intelligence. these are the troll operations that were apparently pushing out fake news. you heard james clapper say in that hearing yesterday that the russians were responsible for pushing out fake news against hillary clinton and the report says that is continuing to help this day and to expect more of this type of behavior from russia in the future. it also makes the point, i think this is important to emphasize and you heard this in donald trump s statement, there was no indication that the russians compromised or got involved in vote tallying. it said while the russian actors targeted multiple state or local electoral boards as we have been reporting, there s no indication that the russians got in there and actually messed with the vote tallies. jim? well, it s interesting that you make those points this was a comprehensive information operation. not just the attacks on the dnc, but also fake news, all intended it seems to sow doubt about the election. they made the point that the targets included associated with both major u.s. political parties. pamela brown, thanks very much. i want to bring in now california congressman adam schiff, the top democrat on the house intelligence committee. thanks very much for joining us this afternoon. you bet. good to be with you. so you have the advantage, of course, of having seen the classified version of this report as well, but without delving into the classified, now that this is public, what do you find the most convincing evidence to back up the intelligence community s assessment here? well, jim, the evidence is really what comprises the classified version and unfortunately i can t go into, obviously, paramount importance is protecting our sources and methods. i m sure the russians would like to know how we know the contents of what s been released publicly. i will say i ve been on the committee almost ten years. this is about as iron clad a case as i ve seen on any major issue. i think the intelligence agencies really did great work here and i think those findings are well documented and supported and i hope their presentation today to donald trump will cause him to change his tune about this because i think the facts are really undeniable. now, adam schiff, we have donald trump s statement, that followed his briefing earlier this afternoon we re told went for an hour meeting with top intelligence officials. in the statement, he doesn t say explicitly yes, russia hacked the election. he said while russia, china and other countries, outside groups and people are consistently trying to break through, he goes on to say, there was absolutely no effect on the outcome of the election. seeing donald trump s response so far, in your view, is that sufficient? i m glad you raised that statement. no, it isn t. in fact, that statement is demonstrably false. the report did not go into whether this russian action changed the outcome of the election. in other words, had the determinative impact on the election. that s beyond the scope of what the intelligence agencies look at. the fact that there was no evidence of tampering with machines, doesn t mean that it didn t influence the outcome of the election as donald trump has said in his statement. in fact, quite the contrary. the daily dumping of damaging material to secretary clinton was enormously consequential in terms of her campaign, was enormously beneficial to donald trump and to ignore that, or to say it didn t happen, i think is quite inaccurate. and all of this was, of course, enabled by the russian cyber operations. let me ask you this, because you have been pushing for action on this for some time. the obama administration has come under criticism from republicans certainly, but also from democrats, for not acting earlier. because it was a month before the election when the intelligence community as you know expressed publicly they had confidence russia was attempting to hack and influence the election with a focus on dmtsic party. do you believe democratic party. do you believe the obama administration waited too long to act on this intelligence? i do believe they waited too long to act and this was point that senator feinstein and i made when we released our own statement about the russian involvement in the elections even before the intelligence community did. nonetheless that doesn t let either the russians off the hook or anyone else and it certainly doesn t mean that democrats and republicans shouldn t come together right now to develop all the counter measures we need to confront this russian covert influence operation in the united states and in europe, and i think we need to develop stronger sanctions against russia on what they did already if we re going to have any hope of deterring them in the future. i think it s save to say looking at donald trump s statements so far it s not exactly a fulsome endorsement of the intelligence community s assessment and as you know, up until this morning, he was disparaging the intelligence and as you know as well, had he s also called into question the capabilities of the u.s. intelligence community. from your perspective what do you what does the american public need to hear from president-elect donald trump now after those expressions of doubts? well, what s really missing from the president-elect statements today is, not just he had a good meeting with intelligence officials, but that he has looked at the evidence he looked at it now in detail, he knows the sources of that evidence, and he has convinced he is convinced the russians did this and there is going to be a price to pay for, he applauds the measures president obama took and we ought to do more and we re going to prevent russia from ever interfering in our elections in this way again. he hopes to have a different relationship with russia, that s fine, but he cannot continue to deny what has taken place and that is i think what he ought to be saying to the american people. congressman adam schiff, thanks very much. thanks, jim. i want to bring in now former california congresswoman jane harmon who served on the house intelligence committee and now president of the wilson center. jane harman, thanks for joining. you know intelligence matters very well. in your experience, have you seen the intelligence community lift the veil to the extent it has on its assessment that russia hacked the election? i think this is unprecedented, and add to that, that yesterday, the senate armed services committee really on a unanimous basis, aligned itself with the intelligence community evidence that this was clearly a hack. it s not just a hack of this election in 2016, but it goes back a decade according to the portions of the report i ve been able to read. that s three presidential elections. and it also, let s add in france and germany, as other targets of russia. most people think that where vladimir putin goes next is angela merkel to destabilize the last of the old generation of leadership in europe. so, with these tools, unfettered, russia uses offensive cyber to basically, as i see it, undermine democracy in the world. it s very serious. and i applaud trump s statement. i heard adam schiff, who now holds the position i did for some years on the intelligence committee, but i applaud donald trump for moving in the right direction and hopefully he will move further. just one last comment, jim, as we watch these events in ft. lauderdale unfold, it should remind all of us how important it is to have seamless, connected intelligence. maybe we could not have found this particular person, but when you look at how this overlay of law enforcement and other response is coming together, lots of this has to do with the corrective actions we took in congress after 9/11. we re much better prepared. you make a good point there. again we don t know the motivations of the shooter in florida, it s too early but that s essentially the intelligence community s job is to find intelligence, prevent bad things before they happen. i want to quote from donald trump s statement the final graph here, he says that we need to aggressively combat and stop cyber attacks. i will appoint a team to give me a plan within 90 days of taking office. if you were advising the president and his team, what steps would you advise them to take urgently? i know many republicans are calling for more severe sanctions than president obama imposed. what would you recommend? well a strong response against russia, even stronger than president obama s, is the first thing i would do. but you have to be careful. if we get into a tit for tat and we do something aggressive against russia in the nature that they did against us, we re ratcheting up danger to us. i don t know that that s where we go. some of this could not doesn t have to be public. i do agree with donald trump that not every move needs to be advertised. that would be number one. number two, i would encourage everyone in america to use the strictest cyber hygiene. a lot of this could have been prevented at the dnc if they had had better hygiene. i know at the wilson center, a think tank, understand that think tanks are targets, we have very strict cyber hygiene now and we train our people on it. if they can prevent this stuff from coming in to the dotcom space and we can do better in preventing it coming into the.gov, and we re doing a better job of that, that s another defense that the trump administration ought to roll out as fast as possible. congresswoman jane harman, thanks very much. thank you, jim. i want to return now to our other big breaking news story this hour, a mass shooting at ft. lauderdale airport. five people are dead. eight others are wounded. the airport remains shut down. the suspect, however, is in custody. and sources tell cnn he had a weapon in his checked bag, which he retrieved when he arrived there at ft. lauderdale. i want to bring back cnn justice correspondent pamela brown, she has new information on the shooter. what are we learning? we re learning, jim, investigators are looking into a possible altercation on the plane that the suspect was on from an core rage, alaska, to florida. there are been claims by witnesses, by some of those on the plane, that the suspect esteban santiago got into some sort of altercation on the plane with other passengers, and as we know, after he got off of that plane there in ft. lauderdale, he went into his checked bag, once it came through baggage claim, pulled out the gun that apparently he had filled out paperwork and declared before, and then opened fire, killing five people. we are still trying to get more information about this altercation and, of course, investigators, want to verify it. oftentimes as you know there are witness accounts, they want to corroborate that. the initial reports are that investigators are looking into this possible altercation between the suspect and passengers as a possible motive there for the shooting and in baggage claim at the ft. lauderdale airport. pamela, that would be enormously important, because it would imply, we want to caution our viewers these are early reports and facts, not conclusive at this point, it would be an indicator this was not previously planned. right? right. that it was more spontaneous, perhaps, a reaction to what happened on the flight? and that s exactly what investigators are looking at because, of course, when anything like this happens you want to figure out is this terrorism or some other motive at play here, some sort of issue, and so that is why this is a critical piece of evidence that investigators are looking at or claim i should say from the witnesses, this possible altercation may be one of the reasons, as you point out, sometimes there s multiple factors, but one of the reasons at least why he got off that plane and went into his checked bag and pulled that gun. we also are learning today, jim, that the suspect apparently was in the military. we know we heard from senator nelson earlier he had a military i.d. they were trying to verify the authenticity and we are told from our sources that, in fact, he was in the army. no criminal record we re told. we re trying to piece together more about the suspect or more about him, and that s the very late west he know right now. pamela brown, thank you very much. law enforcement officials saying there was some sort of altercation with the suspected shooter on the flight and after that altercation he went and retrieved the when and fired in the bag am area. i want to bring back julia kayyem, phil mudd and with me in washington cnn law enforcement analyst tom fuentes. with that new information, tom fuentes, possible altercation on the flight, what does that tell you at this stage. at this point we don t know who he was having an argument with. did he know them before. is this a group of people who were already friends or went hunting together or something and had a previous argument, continued on the plane with each other and then he continues it afterward when he has the firearm, or are they complete strangers and argued about overhead bin space or some other issue on the plane. so that will be determined hopefully pretty soon by the fbi and police that are doing the interviews of him as well as the passenger witnesses as to and the victims who he was arguing with. why were you arguing. what was the cause of that. julewel julia kayyem, airpor are tense places, it can be a tense time. that is an argument for not allowing people to even check weapons when they travel? well, it will be very difficult. people carry weapons for a variety of reasons, hunting trips, or they re moving and need to move their lawful weaponry and so i think the clear thing that we re all picking up on now, it s still undetermined whether he entered the flight with the intention to do this in ft. lauderdale or if something triggered him. and look, something could trigger anyone in an airport and they could be armed even if they weren t a passenger and just come in through baggage claim. so we have a lot more to determine at this stage, but i have to say, the protocols for putting guns in checked baggage are pretty strict. you have to show that the gun is lawfully yours, it can t, of course, be loaded, you have to fill out forms and that s actually part of the security process that someone like me never worried that much about and we just have to determine whether this was someone who used a potential loophole to attack an airport or actually was someone this could have happened anywhere. he s deranged or has mental issues and used a gun in his possession to kill people at an airport. to be clear, you may know this or tom, you can check both a weapon and ammunition? yes. tom fuentes shaking his head yes. yes. if you re going on a hunting trip you will have both with you when you arrive at the destination. the fact that he s coming from alaska might be why he was there. we don t know. that s exactly what i was going to pick up on. hundreds of thousands of law enforcement personnel who often travel with their weaponry. you have to fill something out. it s a protocol under the faa and tsa. you have to fill something out. you can t just do it. nonetheless it s a common procedure for people who own guns. phil, phil mudd, i know i m asking you this with a handicap because it s early, i m just asking you in light of your experience as a profiler, you look at this person here, altercation on the flight, carrying a weapon, but also other things like shooting and killing, and then laying down, letting himself be arrested, as you look at that early and incomplete picture what do you take away? as somebody in the counter terrorism business let me take you behind the door for a moment. the first thing people in my business think about they hope it s not terrorism. you know, in some ways if you have to rank incidents of tragedy and violence in this country, as soon as you get an incidence of terrorism you re saying who organized this is there an immigration issue, connection to isis. if we have someone that stepped off the plane, what i see in the initial stages of this, is an individual who doesn t show the characteristics of the people i used to worry about when i chased terrorism. we talked about, for example, lying down on the floor. the people i chased typically would want to have enough ammunition so they went down in a fire fight with law enforcement. that was not a suicide operation. that for them was a martyr dom operation. i look at this and say i think we might come to a conclusion over the next hours it was just one of those tragedies where you say i m not sure there s anything you can do. and just for the sake of our viewers, that word terrorism there. we don t have any evidence yet and no official has told me at this point. the official word we re hearing from multiple sources is no known motive at this point although the newest information there was an altercation on the flight could be indicative. i would like to make a distinction. we haven t seen this because we re always broadcasting about terrorism events and jihadist events typically they re not taken alive. state and local police will tell you, i was a street cop six years, there are plane situations police arrive, someone has shot their family dead, thrown the gun down and surrendered or committed in other serious crime with a firearm and when police arrive they surrender. so it s not uncommon in general circles even if we think it s uncommon in our circles. julia kayyem, as we re looking at this as well, what are the missing pieces at this point that you ll be looking for? the unanswered questions? well, during the press conference i thought it was interesting and this just having seen so many of these, the extent to which they are going to shut down the entire airport. that s, you know, that s better safe than sorry at this stage. they need to reopen it relatively soon. it s a major airport. and the faa and it tsa are working as we ve heard already to divert everything. you will start to see a slow reopening of different terminals. that s part of the protocol. the unanswered questions i have is just the basic one, is essentially was this a cross-country from alaska to florida flight which seems less likely to me or an altercation where he happened to have a gun. we don t know much about the assailant at this stage so we want to learn more. i have confidence that they believe, that the officials, just based on the press conference, they believe it s an individual assailant who got triggered by something only because they seemed quite confident and they wouldn t be, that the imminent threat was now over. juliette, phil, tom, stay there for a moment pap back to the scene of this shooting rampage, ft. lauderdale/hollywood international airport. boris sanchez is live just outside. boris, what are you seeing in the last few minutes from your vantage point there? jim, we re just waiting for a press briefing from the governor of florida, rick scott, set to start in about ten minutes or so. we ve seen several helicopters circling overhead. broward county sheriff s and others. as we heard from the sheriff of broward county, about an hour or so ago, this is still a fluid scene. it does seem, obviously, like it s way more under control than it was just a few hours ago. they just put up that yellow tape. we re seeing a very large law enforcement presence from all over the southeast part of florida here. the difficulty now is in canvassing all the passengers and people that are still here on the scene. there are several hundred people that can t go anywhere because the airport is shut down. and as you can see behind me this is terminal 2, this is where the shooting took place on the lower level in the baggage claim area. this is an air canada and delta terminal. and just to give you an idea this is the second floor, this is where the de par tours leave. the lower floor, the baggage claim area where the shooting happened is the arrivals. still, so much to piece together in this. one thing i did want to point out i asked the sheriff of broward county perhaps they identified a vehicle belonging to the shooter here at ft. lauderdale international airport. he told me they had not. we did see a large group of officials heavily armed going through the parking structure, so we were he still trying to figure out exactly what details might give us an idea of what was going through the shooter s mind and if this was something that was planned or if he was responding to an altercation on the plane as some of our sources have been saying. boris sanchez on the scene. joining me on the telephone is senator marco rubio of florida. senator rubio, thank you very much for taking the time. thank you. thanks for having me on. a terrible situation. our thoughts with you. a tragedy in your home state. if i can begin, can you tell us if there s any uptated information on the shooting? what can you tell us? well, i want to be very cautious about what we share because i think it s a fluid situation. i think you ve already probably reported the name of the assailant, i think you ve reported. there are still some questions whether it s clear he was an inbound passenger. that seems to be some confusion as of 15 minutes ago still among the agencies about whether he was inbound on an international flight or domestic flight but from outside the continental united states. i think, obviously, the other thing that s going on and you re probably seeing images of it, is they re just trying to make sure this thing is finished. there s always this concern if it were some sort of coordinated incident you would have one attack to draw in first responders and law enforcement and the secondary attack to target them. we know those are tactics that have been discussed in the past. that s part of what you re watching. then it goes to preserving evidence because if, in fact, this turns out to be a domestic prosecution they have to be able to prove it in court. so all of that is going on simultaneously. even as they are trying to run as much information as they can about this individual across data bases to try to begin to piece together what happened here. are you seeing any information, any indication, this was a coordinated attack, beyond a lone gunman? no. as of now, nor have any of the agencies indicated they suspect it. they ve got to rule all of that out. they will take every precaution on the ground. our immediate interactions with the fbi concluded that while their involvement because of the investigative capability and because it involves abation there could be aviation there could be federal criminal violations here, in fact there no doubt is, they do not at least initially see this as some sort of an act of terrorism in terms of what we normally associate with terrorizing. as of this moment anyway that s not the way they re approaching it. i m not sure they ve ruled that out. they have to gather information. we know throughout as we ask you these questions, it s early, the picture incomplete. we re hearing from law enforcement sources here in washington that this passenger had witnesses say he had some sort of altercation on the flight before he then retrieved his weapon from his bags and then carried out his shooting. are law enforcement sources there telling you any more about that? whether they believe that was the motivation? well, i m not prepared to say that was the motivation. i know that was mentioned as a potential cause and they wanted to kind of look into that a little further and get to that point. i think what they ll probably be troubled by the attack did not seem targeted at specific individual, but rather just kind of widespread across the baggage claim area. but that was, in fact, one of the potential causes that was brought up among several others. but we re not trying to be evasive. i certainly am not. truly they don t know. just a few hours removed from this happening and they have to piece all of this together before they know more. one of the things that s unusual about it is, if you wanted to shoot up the baggage claim area of any airport in america you don t have to fly there on an airplane, check it in your bag and wait for the bag to come out. you can just drive up, walk in and do it. so i think that s putting some doubt in their minds about premeditation in terms of that being a specific target. but again, we ll learn more, i imagine, over the next few hours and days. we know the name or multiple sources have told us the name esteban santiago. we re also told that he had a military i.d. on his person. i m curious if you know any more about his background? for instance, whether he was an active or former military service member? no. i can tell you that is the name, the name that i ve heard from multiple sources now and the military i.d. component. i did ask the question whether it was an active military i.d. and they didn t have the answer at the moment. i asked local law enforcement, the first to kind of move on that front in terms of identification. my understanding he is in custody and injured, so i imagine he s been transported to a medical facility. i don t have any more. i would say one thing the name, if you ran that name on just a public data base, obviously, without knowing more about who it was that s not an uncommon name. esteban is not an uncommon name. spanish. and santiago is not an uncommon name. it s not garcia or perez but it s not uncommon. i imagine they re trying to make sure they have the right person. through that i think the passenger manifest from the airline is probably brought into some high level certainty at this point. as of now there s nothing in what they know about this individual that has led them to change any of the assumptions that i ve outlined to you earlier here in this conversation. well, senator rubio, we thank you for taking the time and we re sorry that you and your state have to have experience violence like this. well just know that our thoughts and prayers are with the families of those that have lost their lives and several others that have been severely injured and as a result of this attack and we pray for them and hope that they will be able to make a full recovery. no question. we ll be thinking of them as well. senator rubio, thanks very much. thank you. i want to go to cnn aviation correspondent rene marsh. rene marsh, can you tell us what you re learning most recently about the shooter and the investigation so far? well, just to reset, jim. we know the name of the shooter is esteban santiago as you ve been mentioning there. he flew from alaska to florida. we do know, again, that gun was checked in his checked luggage. he had declared that weapon. and then he retrieved that weapon and that s when he opened fire after getting off of his flight. now, you know, many people may not realize, but he went about this all very legally. tsa rules are very clear, they state what the rules are for carrying a gun on board. you can legally carry a weapon as well as ammunition only in your checked luggage. you cannot carry that in your carry-on luggage. that s exactly what this individual did. however, when you do carry it in your checked luggage, it has to be unloaded. it has to be in a hard, locked case. and again, you have to declare it to the airline at that ticket counter. so to our knowledge, this traveler, esteban santiago, did all of those things and he did all of those things very legally. however, you have a problem which we ve talked about time and time again, with these airports, we saw it happen in istanbul where you have the soft targets of the airport that essentially if you talk to any law enforcement official, it really is virtually impossible to get the vulnerability down to zero. anyone will tell you that. and so this particular area where he opened fire, the baggage claim area, of the airport, wit yit was not by the checkpoint that is considered the soft target and he essentially took advantage of that and that is why we are where we are where the latest numbers are that five people had been shot dead an and we do know eight were transported to the hospital. to be clear we re showing live pictures there. we continue to see police activity on the tarmac. even on some of the highways leading into the airport terminal there, blocking traffic, et cetera. but also to be clear, a little less than an hour ago, police said they believe there is no active shooter still present, that it looks like this shooter who is in custody acted alone. have they changed that assessment? are they still acting as if there could be other assailants there? well, when we did get that update they did tell us that they had cleared everyone out of that vicinity because they had their s.w.a.t. team coming in and they were their s.w.a.t. team was going inch by inch throughout that area looking for others, potentially, but they did say they strongly believe they had their one shooter. however, they want a sterile situation so that not only can they make sure 100% that the threat is gone, but also looking for evidence because they need not only physical evidence, but, of course, they re going to want to look at that tape as well, that tape is going tell a lot as far as how long did this all go on. that tape will tell them exactly where he was standing, who he was aiming at, how he went about this as he opened fire on these innocent travelers, jim. rene marsh, thanks very much. please stand by. i want to bring in niegel nelson, he was there. he heard the gun shots as he waited in the security line. niegel, you think you may have been close to the shooter as this happened? pretty close, actually. so i was in the line waiting just about to step through the screening area when we heard the shots and there were people running behind us and screaming, security personnel screaming run run run. we ran. we were led out by the flight attendants and so on on to the tarmac. there we waited until about an hour or so when we got information as to what was happening. they tried to provide refreshments. i understand you may have heard more gun shots following that initial round of gunfire? this was about say 45 minutes to an hour after we were on the tarmac waiting when they got us all together and said that they they ve pretty much secured the building or secured the terminal and they were trying to get us inside. get us back inside. understood. that s when we heard shouting and screaming again and people started scurrying away. i heard at least two more shots. then, of course, we started running. i understand in that panic, you lost your shoes, just a sign of how quickly people had to get out of there? well, actually, i was, like i said, i was just about to step through the security screening. i put my shoes, phone, wallet, all my belongings into the trays. they were able to go through. that s when the shooting started and that s when everybody started running. i had to run without even a belt on my pant, with everything. i just had to run. now what are you seeing there right now, as understand you re still at the airport? i m still at the airport. we re i m in terminal d. terminal 2, section d6. we were let back inside. we re told they re doing some amount of checks still. they did confirm with us a while ago that they saw or they phoned found something suspicious and they re going to do a controlled explosion within five minutes or so, so the announcement just came over to tell us that we shouldn t panic or anything. so we re still waiting. they the security personnel they re moving around trying to keep us calm, trying to, you know, give us a sense of security and all that. well, thank you very much, niegel nelson, we here at cnn are glad you re safe. we want to go back to evan perez. i understand you have new information? you re welcome. all right. the fact that the suspect had with the fbi in anchorage alaska, recently about a couple months ago, he showed up at the anchorage office of the fbi and apparently exhibiting sh some kind of mental health issues. there was concern there. local authorities or himself. at some point he has checked into a local mental health institution according to officials we ve been talking to. this is still part of the early investigation still putting together a picture of exactly where he s been, what exactly might have led up to this shooting. but what we re beginning what s beginning to emerge is a picture of somebody who was exhibiting some kind of mental health illness, issues. he apparently checked himself in or voluntarily was checked in to a mental health institution there for some treatment. after he showed up at the fbi office in anchorage, alaska. after that, we don t know what happens next. we know that he did get on a flight from alaska and was flew into ft. lauderdale today. earlier we i think mistakenly said he had come through canada, but i think partly because of some of his initial interviews and statements to investigators, in which he indicated that he had come from canada. we now know that he, indeed, had come from alaska, had flown into ft. lauderdale airport earlier today, before he started carrying out this shooting. again, mental health issues is the picture that s emerging here from this suspect. that s right. i heard similar from u.s. officials earlier. evan perez, thanks very much. tom fuentes with me in washington and phil mudd still on the line. tom, as you listen to that, we re beginning to get a clearer picture perhaps of the suspect and the shooting. it could be serious mental health problems. we don t know the cause of it. you know, we ve had other incidents where somebody severely mentally ill does have access or owns a gun. which apparently is the case here. but you have situations where if somebody already owns a gun and then later gets mental health treatment there s no real way to find him and take the gun away. that s the possibility in this situation, he developed this problem mentally after he already owned the sgloon it s an issue that comes up so frequently with shootings that we cover, mental health, and that s one issue you hear from republicans as well, maybe they need to address the mental health issues as tied to gun violence. phil mudd, a lot of experience profiling bad actors tell us your view as we hear more information about the suspected shooter? i would step away from this and i think we will come up with the unavoidable conclusion we have another tragedy in america that s not preventable because we have someone that has mental health issues who didn t intend before he got on the plane on killing somebody. two quick things. did anybody know before he got on the plane that he had anger issues that might manifest themselves on the plane and did he talk about an incident of violence. my guess is no, but guess is not good enough here. there s a second bigger question. is there anything we can learn? we re talking about the issue of how do you think about someone who goes into mental health treatment who has access to a weapon. i think you to do an after action here but i m afraid we re going to step away and say in the america of 2017 this is just going to happen periodically. sadly, we come on the air with stories like this more often than we can coun. juliette kayyem, based on evan s information, the idea he arrived on ap earlier flight than we believed initially, and might have had some time to think about this before he acted? that s exactly right. what i m picking up on phil s point. what are we going to learn from this? obviously, you know, we have another major mass casualty shooting and there are debates, political debates, about guns and access to guns, but the other question i have, is if there was some sort of altercation or disturbance on an airplane, or around the airplane, what did officials at the airport, certainly plenty of them, whether it was at airline industry or tsa or local or state officials did they do anything or what did they do? i m curious about that only because we have to train these officials to be able to deescalate problems in a world in which we have too many lots of arms and unfortunately untreated mental health issues. and so that would be one of my takeaways from this as we started the hour, you know, i said this was a suspicion, that this was someone who got on a plane and didn t intend on doing this. and how can we deescalate these situations before they lead to a tragedy like this. just to reiterate some of that new information, learning now that shooter, one, had previous contact with the fbi, he was known to the federal bureau of investigation. two, that it is believed that he had mental health issues, possible mental health problems. in addition to that we learn as well there might have been altercation on this flight, an immediate perhaps triggering event. right. at this point we need to do the investigation. we need to find out what exactly happened. to the extent we can know it. we may never know what was inside his head that caused this to happen. and, you know, what his background is. so it s going to take more investigation to even have an idea of what happened here. tom fuentes, thank you. new information that being a photo of the shooting suspect here. i m going to go to our evan perez. that s right. this is a photo that we have of the suspect. you know, there was not a lot of we checked his criminal background. not a lot in his criminal background. very minor stuff that he that showed up in the records. and so this indicates that, aside from this recent visit to the fbi office in anchorage, alaska, there s really not much contact that police have had, law enforcement has had with him. we re told he has not shown up on any radar of anybody who is potentially extremist or radicalized. that s one of the first things unfortunately these days that law enforcement does when one of these cases happens, they check to see whether or not there s anything that comes up with regard to extremism. we haven t they haven t found any indication of that at this point. again, very few very minor criminal history is what we have in his background. and apart from just a couple months ago showing up at the fbi office in anchorage and exhibiting signs of mental illness that appears to be the extent of the law enforcement contact. significant law enforcement contact that this suspect had until today. jim? you re looking at the face there in that photograph of esteban santiago, the suspect in
jason carroll, thanks so much. donald trump did have a new policy proposal. term limits for members of congress. he s calling for a constitutional amendment. it would take a constitutional amendment that would restrict members to six years of service, senators, 12 years. on monday, they proposed an ethics on when the executive branch leave office. cnn has learned new details about donald trump s preparation for the final debate. a source tells us that rnc chair reince priebus played the moderators with new jersey governor chris christie playing hillary clinton. this is a bit of a change doing mock scenarios. we had been told in the first debate, he did not do this. did not want to do this, apparently coming in nor prepared. hillary clinton, she s been off the campaign trail for several days, raising money and preparing for tonight s debate. in the very first debate she seemed to be trying to bait trump. at 9:00 p.m. eastern, she is expected to employ a different strategy, according to cnn s jeff zeleny. that s right, hillary clinton is getting ready for her final debate with donald trump. she s preparing in a different way. now, she s been actually familiarizing herself with all of those campaign e-mails and previous positions and statements unearthed through the stolen hacked e-mails published by wikileaks. it is a new development in this campaign. something she is preparing for. something she expected donald trump will go after. she will also, i m told, go after what donald trump is did calling a rigged election. pushing back hard, perhaps as a way to get under donald trump s skin. she s also going to make the case for why she can be the president for all americans. of course, that message is aimed at getting some republicans some moderate voters who may not have been open for voting for her. but they simply cannot be there for trump. she s trying to make the case today, a, she s presidential, and b, even if you don t love her, you still may want to vote for her because donald trump in the eyes of the clinton campaign is simply not fit for president. of course, donald trump will be getting his last licks in. this is the last time before a big audience raising case about honesty and her trustworthiness. with the campaign less than three weeks away from election day. john and christine. jeff zeleny for us. the third installment of the debate trilogy is tonight on cnn. we are here now. we ll be here all day long. christine romans. thank you so much, john berman. president obama has a message for donald trump, quit whining. the commander in chief calling out donald trump for his repeated claim that s election is rigged. listen to him mock the gop for what he calls the unprecedented and dangerous attack on the nation s election system. that is both irresponsible. and by the way, doesn t really show the kind of leadership and toughness that you want out of a president. you start whining before the game s even over. if whenever things are going badly for you, you start blaming somebody else? then you don t have what it takes to be in this job. the president hosted his final state dinner last night welcoming italian prime minister matteo renzi. in his toast on the south lawn he borrowed a line from yogi berra telling the crowd it ain t over til it s over. heavyweights for v.p., an e-mail allegedly sent by gop mike pence. has a list, tim cook, bill gates, mary barra, howard schultz and muhtar kent. with tim kaine this was an early list along with kaine, elizabeth sanders and others made the cut. much snarking on social media. podesta said he organized the list by food groups. those groups were gender and race as well as professional background. will they or won t they? a lot of speculation whether donald trump and hillary clinton will shake hands before tonight s third and final debate. we already know who won t be shaking hands. details ahead on early start. credit karma, why are you checking your credit score? insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company come in. like all standardized medicare supplement insurance plans, they could help pay some of what medicare doesn t, saving you in out-of-pocket medical costs. you ve learned that taking informed steps along the way really makes a difference later. that s what it means to go long™. call now and request this free decision guide. it s full of information on medicare and the range of aarp medicare supplement plans to choose from based on your needs and budget. all plans like these let you choose any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients, and there are no network restrictions. unitedhealthcare insurance company has over thirty years experience and the commitment to roll along with you, keeping you on course. so call now and discover how an aarp medicare supplement plan could go long™ for you. these are the only medicare supplement insurance plans endorsed by aarp, an organization serving the needs of people 50 and over for generations. plus, nine out of ten plan members surveyed say they would recommend their plan to a friend. remember, medicare doesn t cover everything. the rest is up to you. call now, request your free decision guide and start gathering the information you need to help you keep rolling with confidence. go long™. hewlett-packard ceo meg williams and 345shg cuban. donald trump has invited president obama s kenyan-born half brother malik. and he will be bringing kristin smith, the mother of sean smith who has held hillary clinton responsible for her son s death. we do not know if hillary clinton and donald trump will shake hands when they walk in. there will be no hand shakes between the candidates family members. the clinton camp reportedly suggested a new setup at the start. according to the the new york times, family members will now enter the hall in their assigned seats instead of crossing the stage like you saw there. bill clinton and ivanka and the trump boys. clinton worried about trump pulling off a stunt like packing the audience with bill clinton s female accusers. people magazine is standing by the article that bill clinton sexually assaulted her in 1995. family and friends who corroborate natasha stoynoff s story. look at her, i don t think so. john and christine, people magnifiering back at donald and melania trump after both of those vigorously denied natasha stoynoff s account of donald trump sexually assaulting her. stoynoff s mentor and former journalism professional paul mclock ineven tweeting this. in 2005 natasha phoned me crying saying trump assaulted her. she is telling the truth. hash tag natasha stoynoff. when at mar-a-lago, and writing in a people magazine article this. she said, we walked into that room alone and trump shut the door behind us. i turned around and within seconds he was pushing me against the wall and forcing his tongue down my throat. stoynoff said she asked her editors to be taken off trump coverage but never came forward publicly until now. she also wrote that she later ran into melania trump on fifth avenue and asking her why they didn t see her anymore. melania denying that to anderson cooper. that never happened. she interviewed twice, and for that story, that s it. i did not see her on the street or ask her why we don t see her name. people releasing a quote for a friend saying she was with stoynoff for that exact encounter. a friend said they chatted in a friendly way. what struck me the most was melania was carrying a child and wearing heels. melania stands by her denial of this ever happening and still demands an a retraction and apology from people magazine. 17 minutes after. the operation for the fight for mosul. iraq s second largest city. how long will this take and are americans forces in harm s way here? we ve got a live report from iraq next. the operation to liberate mosing could take two months, that assessment from a kurdish military commander after day two of the offensive. nearly 100,000 troops are marching on iraq s second largest city. their mission to bring an end two more than two years of isis rule there and push the extremist group out of the country for good. we want to go live to erbil, iraq, michael holmes is at the front. reporter: yeah, christine, it s moving well, the iraqi and kurdish leadership and also the americans, they re all saying this advance on mosul is on schedule or even ahead of schedule. it s a very are deliberate methodical advance, though. they re taking and clearing territory as they go. and then having to hold it as well. iraqi forces say they re continuing to liberate towns and villages on route to mosul. in fact, the commander of one division telling cnn that his forces have destroyed, in his words, dozens of suicide vehicles. also saying they ve cleared a large number of ieds. and have killed at least 50 isis fighters over the last two days since this offensive began. they also found, and we had heard an these, too, they found networks of tunnels used to transport weaponry. and they found food in one of those tunnels that was still warm. those iraqi forces and kurdish forces working to take on the areas they ve taken before moving on closer to mosul. there are perhaps some units perhaps within 10 kilometers of mosul. so they re getting ever closer. as you said, the estimate is perhaps two weeks before everything is in place. and coordinated to begin the assault itself. and then once inside the city, it really gets tough. it could take two months, perhaps more to defeat isis in that city. isis reportedly has anywhere between 3,000 and 5,000 fighters inside. of course, we have to remember, there are up to 1 million civilians still inside that city and in a pier littlous situation, christine. absolutely. thanks for that report, michael holmes. breaking overnight, caught on video, police ramming into protesters injuring several. this happened at an anti-u.s. rally at the american embassy in manila. look at this, video footage showing demonstrators hitting the vans with ba tons. they had taken the batons from police. they gathered to put an end to u.s. troops in the philippines and to support a call by president duterte for a foreign policy not dependent on the u.s. an out-of-control wildfire burning in southern colorado has destroyed at least five home, it threatens hundreds of other, putting people on notice to evacuate. the state s governor deploying the national guard to help fight the fire which has burned 25,000 square miles. it s zero% skeined. advantage, los angeles. dodgers shutting out the chicago cubs for the second straight game. l.a. now leads the series two games to one. game four tonight in dodger stadium in the alcs. to avoid elimination, cleveland still leads three games to one and can close out the jays and advance the world series with a win in game five this afternoon in toronto. a nail-biter right now for baseball fans. we re also counting down the final hours to tonight s third presidential debate. is this donald trump s last chance to resurrect his campaign? 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and help you find the aarp medicare supplement plan that s right for you. the clock is ticking. the final countdown to the final debate. huge stakes here in las vegas. this could be the final chance for donald trump. to get back into this race. hillary clinton staying out of the public eye. preparing for tonight s showdown. what s the strategy? will she go on the attack? will she be forced to explain those e-mail leaks to tens of billions of voters? welcome back to early start this wednesday morning. i m christine romans in new york. i m john berman, about 30 minutes past the hour, i think. i m live at the university of nevada in las vegas. but, we actually have people out here now to watch, to watch this show to join us as we count down to the third and final debate between hillary clinton and donald trump. this could be the last best chance for donald trump to right his ship. to claw his way back into the campaign. you can see the excitement building here on campus. donald trump he is behind the latest round of national polls by a lot in some of those polls. he s also trailing in most of the key battleground states. he made two stops in battleground colorado on his way here. urging his supporters don t believe the polls. and he delivered a kind of dire warning about a possible clinton victory. history will record that 2017 was the year that america lost, truly lost its independence. truly lost its independence. and, by the way, this is our final shot, folks. in four years, it s over. you re never going to be able to win. you re never going to be able to win. it s going to be a one-party system. this is your final shot. donald trump is also renewing his pledge to build a wall along the border with mexico. he describes himself to voters in colorado as a unifier. let s get more now from cnn s jason carroll. reporter: john and christine, donald trump had very little about the debate to the crowd here in grand junction, colorado, he did say that the debate would be, quote, interesting. certainly, a number of his supporters want him to stay on message during the debate. and while he s out on the campaign trail, having said that a number of gop leaders pushing back on donald trump s unfounded claims that the electoral process is, quote, rigged. they certainly want him to stop talking about it when he s out on the campaign trail. but donald trump kept pushing the idea anyway. the moment is going to be november 8th. it s very simple. and we will we ve just begun to fight. they even want to try and rig the election at the polling booth where so many cities are corrupt and voter fraud is all too common. then they say, oh, there s no voter fraud in our country. there s no voter fraud. no, there s no voter fraud. take a look at st. louis. take a look at philadelphia. take a look at chicago. then i have even the republicans saying, oh, this is a wonderful look. look. if nothing else, people are going to be watching on november 8th. reporter: trump holding the media responsible for what he calls that rigged system. saying that the media has been, quote, lying, cheating and stealing, again these are donald trump s words. he also said that the media at this point is worse than his opponent hillary clinton. john, christine. all right, jason carroll, thanks so much. donald trump will unveil a new policy, term limits for congressional amendments that will restrict house terms to six years, senate members to two terms, 12 years. on monday trump proposed a series of ethics reform including a five-year ban on lobbying when members of the executive branch leave office. cnn has learned new details about donald trump s preparation for the final debate here at the university of nevada in las vegas. a source telling us that rnc chair reince priebus played the moderator in final sessions with new jersey governor chris christie playing hillary clinton. this is a mock debate format. the kind of thing he did not like to do before the first debate. interesting that he s doing it now. hillary clinton has been off the campaign trail for several days raising money and preparing for tonight s debate. in the first debate, she seemed to be trying to bait donald trump. when they square off tonight in several hours from now, she s expected to employ a different strategy. let s get the latest from cnn s jeff zeleny. reporter: that s right, hillary clinton is getting ready for her third and final debate with donald trump she s preparing just as much as she did for the first two but i m told in a very different way. now, she s actually familiarizing herself with all of the campaign e-mails in previous statements that have been unearthed through the stolen hacked e-mails published by wikileaks. it s a new development in the campaign. something she is preparing for. something she expects donald trump will go after. she will also go after what donald trump is calling a rigged election. she ll be pushing back on that hard, perhaps as a way to get under donald trump s skin. she s also going to make the case for why she can be the president for all americans. now, of course, that message is aimed at getting some republicans, some moderate voters who may not have been open to voting for her but they simply cannot vote for donald trump. overall, that is her objective in tonight s debate trying to make the case, a, she s presidential. and b, even if you don t love her, you may still want to vote for her, donald trump in the eyes of the clinton campaign is simply not fit to be president. donald trump will be getting his last licks in. this is the last time before a big audience for raise his case. raising questions about her honestly and truft worthiness without question. tonight s debate will set the stage for the rest of the campaign less than three weeks away from election day. john and christine. thank you so much. debate number three is tonight. cnn here now and all day long. christine romans. all day and all night. we don t even know what time it is in vegas. we don t even need to know. president obama has a message for donald trump, quit whining. the commander in chief calling out trump for his repeated claims this election is rigged. obama mocking the gop for what he calls a dangerous unprecedented attempt on the nation s office. michelle kosinski has more. hi, john and christine, in case you haven t noticed president obama is happy to speak his mind on donald trump. it s clear that he sees opportunities. listen to what he said yesterday when asked about donald trump s recent comments on a rigged election. that is both irresponsible, and by the way, doesn t really show the kind of leadership and toughness that you want out of a president. you start whining before the game s even over? if whenever things are going badly for you and you lose, you start blaming somebody else? then you don t have what it takes to be in this job. president also took a heavy shot, not just at donald trump s praise of russian president vladimir putin but also again for republicans who continue to support donald trump. and as we wind down the days before this election actually happens, we can expect to see, again, president obama and the first lady out on the campaign trail this week. john and christine. all right, michelle kosinski. top issue for millennial voters and their parents. stupid loan debt. brand new report shows grads are leaving college with more debt than ever before. here are the grim numbers. the average student loan at graduation is now $30,100. that s up 4% from the last year. that amounts in $300 a month. think about that, these kids are graduating $300 in debt payments every month for ten years. those averages are higher because that does not include students at for profit colleges. most students at for profit colleges do take out loans and they tend to borough higher amounts. private schools cost families an average of $26,400 last year. v% of median income. the amount of students taking automatic loans for college may have plateaued though. right now, 68% of kids have taken out loans in in 1983, less than half. and top that at 24% at 2012. and hillary clinton inviting two billionaires. real billionaires, not fake billionaires like donald trump, donald trump is bringing a relative of president obama needling the president about his half brother. more on earl early start next. john berman here at the university of nevada in las vegas. where the anticipation is building, along with the crowd. we have at least three, four, five people here maybe. i expect we could get to a dozen by 5:30 eastern time. as the excitement building for tonight. the third and final debate between hillary clinton and donald trump. our thanks to the students for sticking to their study plans and being here to support us on this debate. both candidates, they will be bringing guests to the debate tonight. hillary clinton bringing a couple of billionaires. mark cuban will be there owner of the dallas mavericks. and hewlett-packard ceo meg whitman will be there as well. donald trump invited president obama s kenyan-born half brother malik who is reportedly supporting donald trump. and donald trump also inviting patricia smith the mother of benghazi victim sean smith. saying she holds hillary clinton responsible for her son s death. donald trump and hillary clinton they did not shake hands prior to the second debate. we do not know if they will or will not tonight. but we do know there will be no handshakes between the candidates family members beginning at the debate. that is because, reportedly, the clinton campaign requested a new setup. according to the the new york times family members will now enter the hall closer to their assigned seats, instead of crossing each other s paths on stage like you re seeing right now. sources tell cnn that the clinton team is worried about a stunt like donald trump pulled in the second debate, seating in the crowd. people who have accused president clinton of past sexual misconduct. christine romans, back to you. a new undercover video appears to be going democratic operatives of how to have trump supporters in acts of violence. the video suggests that the operatives hired by the dnc may have had a chance in instigating violence. now, two people now out of their jobs as more questions are raised. snrch investigative correspondent drew griffin breaks it all down for us. reporter: the undercover videos produced by discredited conservative activist james o keefe suggested that democratic operatives hired political activists, working in coordination with the dnc to instigate violence and incite reactions at trump rallies. and one of the under cover videos, scott phobele, a subcontractor for a dnc hired firm supposedly describes how he does it. it s a script, script of engagement. sometimes the crazies bite and sometimes the crazy don t fight. the mediaological cover it no matter where it happens. initiating the conflict by having leading conversations with people. and honestly, it is not hard to get some of these assholes to pop off. right. it s a matter of showing, once you get into a rally in a planned parenthood t-shirt. or trump is a nazi. you know, a you can message to draw them out and draw them to punch you. reporter: according to the undercover video it was this man that the democratic national committee turned to, bob creamer is the hunt of jan schakowsky. s he, too, was caught on undercover video, here is how he was hired by the democratic national committee to stage press conferences wherever the trump campaign showed up. wherever trump and pence are going to be at events. okay. the. we have a whole team across the country that does that, both consultants and people from the campaign. and, you know, my role in the campaign is to make it go away. reporter: creamer stepped down from the campaign today and announced his subcontractor scott foval was no longer working for his firm. both the dnc and the clinton campaign denied any coordination with anything involving the incitement of violence. creamer herself told cnn his former contractors were committing barroom talk, insisting none of what is described by foval actually happened. in a statement, creamer writes we regret the unprofessional and careless hypothetical conversations that were captured on hidden cameras of a regional contractor for our firm. he is no longer working with us. the clinton campaign respond, while project veritas has been known to offer misleading video out of context, some of the language and tactics referenced are troubling. we support the democratic national committee appropriate action addressing this matter and look forward to continue waging a campaign of ideas worthy of our democratic process. james o keefe is a convicted criminal, they add, with a history of doctoring video to advance his ideological agenda. drew griffin, thank you for that. the dnc says there is no evidence that anything described on the tapes actually happened. they will investigate whether james o keefe broke the law to get the undercover recordings. and the partnership said it was breached and betrayed in all forms. if you ve ever wanted to own a piece of trump real estate. tonight may be your chance. you ll have to outbid the competition. that s right, donald trump slept here when we get it next on money. rbil from michael holmes. reporter: christine, as both iraqi and kurdish forces move closer to mosul what they re doing is a very deliberate, methodical advance taking in villages as they go. what we re hearing obviously shows such clearing is not an exact science. we just had a disturbing report in the last hour or so. that some iraqi soldiers, we don t know exactly how many have in fact been surrounded by isis fighters. this is near a village about 15 miles south of mosul. we re still checking into the details of that. the feeling is that they went through some villages, kept on moving, but isis fighters were left behind. perhaps fighting in those villages. came up behind them, surrounding them at the moment. still obviously a very dangerous situation and waiting to get more information on that. however, the iraqi command this is that they re going to continue to liberate towns on their way to mosul. in fact, the commander of one division told cnn that his forces have destroyed dozens of suicide vehicles. they ve cleared a large number of i ed and bobby traps and killed at least 50 fighters in the last two days. they ve also, and this possibly ties into what happened with these soldiers now reportedly surrounded. there are these networks of tunnels that are in these toungs and villages, reportedly right throughout mosul as well, used to transport fighters and weaponry around the battlefield. reports that food found in one of those tunnels was still warm. so you can get a sense of what s going on underground. and the key now is to hold those areas they ve taken, before they can move closer on to mosul. as you said, it s perhaps two weeks before they re told everything is likely in place to assault mosul itself. and then once inside the city. the battle itself to retake it could take two months and perhaps more. anywhere between 3,000 and 5,000 isis fighters said to be inside mosul. christine. michael holmes here for us. thank you for that. breaking overnight, caught on video, police van rammed into protesters leaving several injured. this happened at an anti-u.s. rally at the american embassy in manila. you can see the footage showing demonstrators hitting vans with batons. those are ban tons taken from police. at least 1,000 protesters gathered to demand an end to u.s. troops. and support the call of president duterte for foreign policy not dependent on the yoous. dow futures slightly lower right now. investors awaiting earnings from morgan stanley, american express, ebay and others. oil is rising. goldman sachs crushed estimates on higher gold. the consumer price intext ticked up last month. prices are 1.5% higher than this time last year. a problem for the federal reserve not because it s rising quickly but because it s rising too slowly. food and energy prizes rose 2.2% from this time last year. silver lining, paychecks are growing faster than your grocery bills except if you re on social security. the government says the typical retiree s monthly check will grow by $3.90 next year. the average retiree s monthly benefit is a little more than $1,300. this piece of historic trump real estate could be yours. his childhood home goes up for auction tonight. the tudor-style house in queens. 2500 square feet. five bedrooms, 4 1/2 bathrooms. the suggested bid is $849,000. it would be a relative bargain for a house in this location. you won t find the shy end finishes with gold ceilings. i wish i could show you the video like a pink bathroom there it is. there it is. it s not like his current gilded penaltyhouse. this house may need a little tlc, a little work. there s it s bink bathroom, depending on your tastes. check out the money stream app. the story, tweets you want, all in one feed download at the app store or. early start continues right now. just a few hours to go before the final debate of 2016. hillary clinton, donald trump could this be a decisive moment in the race? hillary clinton stay ogg out of the public eye to prepare for
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yes. i put them all in jail. he did put them all in jail, including crazy eddie himself, his cousin, who got seven years in the pokie. now, speaking of pokey, stick a pen in that for a second. you know how donald trump s sister is a federal judge it hasn t really been a big point of discussion in this campaign but his sister is a federal judge. it came up a little bit during the republican primaries. he asked who he wanted to put on the supreme court and the first name suggested was his sister and then we all had to check to see if he was joking. he said he was joking. but his older sister is a well-regarded moderate federal judge on the circuit court of appeals. donald trump s sister, the federal judge, was married to the man who was the lawyer for crazy eddie all through the crazy, crazy eddie scandal. his name was john barry. he did white collar defense and corporate litigation. he s passed away now. but he was crazy eddie s lawyer through the wads of cash, taped to crazy eddie s body and the cousin narking them out and the whole thing. crazy eddie s lawyer was married to donald trump s sister. crazy eddie s lawyer was also donald trump s personal lawyer for years. and on top of all of that, john barry was also the lawyer that is freaking out the party right now. new jersey is one of those states that holds its statewide elections in off years. their race was not in 2012. it was in 2013. the next one will be in the fall of 2017. they hold their statewide elections in odd number of years. new jersey has been that way for a long time. virginia is the same way. there aren t many states who do that. one of the consequences of being an off-year election state is when they elect their governor in these weird, odd numbered years, they don t have a lot of competition for attention, right? there are not a lot of big ticket races going on to compete for everybody s dollars and the national parties to get involved. just by virtue of the weird schedule. they can get a bunch of national attention and that s what happened in 1981. so in context, that was a year after ronald reagan was elected to the presidency in 1980. the year after that, november of 1981, new jersey had its governor s race. and in that governor s race in 1981, the national republican party newly energized from that huge win with reagan and how they took the seats in congress and the senate, republican party decided they had another shot to go for another big race and they decided to basically flood the zone in that new jersey governor s race in 1981. the republicans flew in national political operatives. they launched this very aggressive scheme where they challenged the registration of thousands of new jersey voters who turned up to the polls in newark, camden and trenton. and in about 75 minority heavy precincts across new jersey that year in that race, they put up these four-foot tall warning signs. when i first saw images of these signs online and in old newspaper articles and stuff, i thought these were like flyers and the piece of a paper and put them on telephone poles or something. they were sandwich board posters, four-foot tall signs that they put outside of polling areas saying, warning, this area is being patrolled by the national ballot security task force. it s a crime to violate election laws. and they were not bluffing. the rnc did actually invent something called a ballot security task force and put these guys on patrol in minority heavy precincts. it s interesting. nobody had advanced warning that they are coming. they just showed up on election day and nobody knew to expect it. they had off-duty police officers and sheriff deputies carrying walkie-talkies wearing ballot security task force arm bands. many were openly carrying guns and they stalked around polling places in minority-heavy districts while they demanded that election workers strike these people off the election rolls. several of these signs were reported at polling places at newark s fourth ward. poll watchers, some of them off-duty policemen wearing guns and arm bands were also near the polls as part of the task force set up by the republican and national state committees to guard against fraud but democrats charge it was a scare campaign to intimidate voters primarily in minority neighborhoods. yeah, you think? who knows how many people were blocked or intimidated from voting in that election in new jersey in 1981. but as voter suppression schemes go, this one clearly worked. both parties would claim that it definitely worked. there were 3 million votes cast in that governor s race. it was decided by less than 1800 votes. and the republican won. and then the democrats sued. the democrats sued the republican party over this ballot security task force stunt. and you know who the republicans used as their lawyer to defend them in that case? donald trump s brother-in-law. the crazy eddie guy who was married to donald trump s sister. he was the lawyer for the republican party in that case in new jersey. and he got creamed in court. i mean, the damage was already done in terms of that governor s race. the republicans won that election by this many votes, right? and the democrats weren t going to be able to get that election back. but what the democrats did get was something called a consent decree, which bans the republican national committee from doing this kind of thing again, from doing anything like this, that problem hib bits them from being involved in any poll-watching shenanigans that targets minority voters. and now today, in 2016, now the snake starts eating its own tail. in 2016, it s not donald trump s brother-in-law, it s now donald trump who is losing that exact case all over again for the republican national committee. go down to certain areas and watch and study and make sure other people don t come in and vote five times. so important that you watch other communities because we don t want this election stolen from us. so go and vote and then go check out areas because a lot of bad things happen. when i say watch, you know what i m talking about, right? you know what i m talking about. take a look at philadelphia, what s been going on. take a look at chicago, take a look at st. louis. every time he says that, you can go ahead and picture reince priebus hiding under a desk, because that s a really dangerous path for the republican party to be on legally. the republican party is still bound by that consent decree from that case in 1981. that case that was lost by donald trump s brother-in-law on behalf of the republican party. because of that case, the republican party has promised they are legally bound to not do the kind of racially charged poll watching they got caught doing back in the battle days in new jersey in 1981. they ve promised not to do it. they are legally bound not to do it through the end of that consent decree and that consent decree was put in place by one way or another since the early 1980s. it is finally set to expire next year. in 2017. the republican party would desperately like to get out from under that consent decree that they have been under since the 1980s but they will not get out from under it if they get caught violating it. they won t get out from under it if they get caught doing racially charged, racially targeted poll watching again like they used to do and that they got caught for. they will not get out from that consent decree if they actually do what donald trump is now asking all republicans to go do now on his behalf. go down to certain areas and watch. watch other communities. go check out areas. when i say watch, you know what i m talking about, right? you know what i m talking about. take a look at philadelphia, chicago, st. louis. or don t. or don t. or don t. thanks to that old case, lost by donald trump s brother-in-law in the early 80s, one of this year s more unexpected freakouts within the republican party is now officially under way. the republican party has issued a special request to all rnc members to please not do what donald trump is asking them to do, to please not gather around polling places in philadelphia and st. louis and chicago or anywhere no matter what the republican presidential candidate is saying on the stump. the national party sent a whole the whole rnc a memo to, quote, remind you of the restrictions placed on the rnc by the consent decree. quote, you are encouraged not to engage in ballot security activities even in your personal state party or campaign capacity if you elect to do so, please be aware that the rnc in no way sanctions your activity. i mean, right now, as it stands, the republican party is legally bound to not do any racially specific poll watching through next year, through 2017. if they get caught doing it, though, the consent decree gets extended until 2025. and the republican party does not want that. they really do not want that. crazy eddie s lawyer is now long gone. but it is kind of amazing that it is now his brother-in-law, the republican nominee for president this year who s the one screwing up that big case, that john barry lost for the republican party back in the 80s. i mean, in the waning days of these elections, in the last two weeks, donald trump is telling his supporters that he doesn t trust the polls anymore and neither should they. he tweeted this this morning. we have not edited this in any way. see if you can figure out why i m saying this. major story that the dems are making up phony polls in order to suppress the the trump. we are going to win. democrats are making up phony polls to suppress the the trump. is that the the so? anything could happen. election day may be a hulla-ba-loo. if they do go try to have a task force or what have you, anything could happen. but right now, the new york times probability that the the trump will lose this election is 93%. the 538 probability is more conservative. they put it at 86%. those are pretty high numbers. it may be that the actual drama in this case is moving down. 538 says there s a 74% chance. the democrats are going to take the senate. new york times puts that probability slightly lower at 67%. because of those kind of numbers, democrats are thinking about long term, right? democrats are thinking about how they can make this a big win for the democratic party beyond winning the white house for hillary clinton. we ve got a bunch of interesting reporting on that subject still ahead tonight, including one race that the democrats are really screwing up. on the other side of the aisle, though, republicans are also thinking long term. republicans are looking at donald trump and thinking about what else it is that they have to lose this year besides the presidency. the republicans basically know now that picking donald trump to be their presidential nominee has almost certainly cost them the white house. what they have to worry about now is whether that s it, whether the price of choosing donald trump might actually be sort of insane. we ve got more ahead tonight. stay with us. his prices are insane. hit me, hit me. ha, ha. whenou he cold, you just want powerful rief. ly new alkseltzer plus fr oarfici dyes d presvative liquid gels delive towerful co symptomelief you needithout thennecessa dives you don t. store manager: cln up, aie alkaeltzer plus liquidels. on this show a couple of days ago. i ll correct it this evening. there s something that i think the democratic party is currently getting very, very wrong but in that case i have no expectation that they will correct it because i don t think they think that they are wrong. but i do. and that story is next. ing 60,000 points from my chase ink card i boug allhe frark. wire. and plants needed to give my sh. a face. neededno oneill forget. e what the power of poin can do forour business. learn more at chase.com/in e t the best place toren castart is in the forest. ku: i y somethin beginnin e t the best place toren castarbeetle: snow.orest. kubo: . etle: snow covered trees. monkey: nothing to do with snow. narrator: head outside to discoverncredible animals and beautifuplants that come together narratorto can outside to diunfoettae adnture.imals kubo: wow! and beautifuplants that come together narrator: so grab your loved ones monkey: n t even. narratorand explore a world of possibilities. ku: comen, this way. narrator: visit discoverthorest.org to find the closes forest or park to you. he thinks that because he has money, that he can call women fat pigs and bimbos. he thinks that because he s a celebrity that he can rate women s bodies from 1 to 10. he thinks that because he has a mouthful of tic-tacs he can grope any woman within groping distance. i ve got news for you, donald trump, women have had it with guys like you. [cheers and applause ] and nasty women have really had it with guys like you. yeah. and get this, donald, nasty women are tough. nasty women are smart and nasty women vote. and on november 8th, we nasty women are going to march our nasty feet to cast our nasty votes to get you out of our lives forever. elizabeth warren i think coining nasty feet for the first time in political history. we keep saying things are unprecedented and then we keep saying, oh, yeah, in the 1860s. i think nasty feet is first. i think that was a first. elizabeth warren on the campaign trail with hillary clinton. this is the first time they have campaigned together in the same place since the democratic convention. as you saw there, elizabeth warren scorched donald trump but she saved some of her other best bolts for one of the senate colleagues for kelly ayotte of new hampshire who is up for re-election who may not survive. donald trump, call latinos rapists and murderers, trump stayed with him. trump called them thugs and kelly stuck with them. trump attacked a gold star family and kelly struck with him. trump even attacked kelly ayotte and called her weak. and kelly stuck with him. i mentioned at the top of the show that the chances of the democratic party taking control of the senate are pretty good right now. that s 67% from the new york times, the highest probability the times has put on that yet all year long. and that is just one number for an overall probability that the democrats will win control of the senate. but it s not just one election, right? taking the senate doesn t happen in one fell swoop, it happens race by race and candidate by candidate. that s why the top campaign events now sound like this. marco rubio said donald trump is a con man and donald trump is dangerous. therefore, i support whoa, whoa, whoa. wait a minute. how can that work? if he won t stand up against donald trump and there are plenty of republican who is are standing up against donald trump and calling him out. marco rubio won t. and patrick murphy will be a great u.s. senator. tim kaine taking some shots at republican senator marco rubio who is up for re-election in florida. senator kaine there also talking up the democratic candidate in that race, congressman patrick murphy. and you would think things would be going reasonably well for patrick murphy right now. the polls have definitely tightened in that race. the latest poll in florida shows him within two points of marco rubio. last week, patrick murphy got the endorsement of marco rubio s hometown paper, the miami herald. he s been endorsed by all four of florida s largest newspapers, three of which backed marco rubio when he first ran for the senate. also, the prevailing climate looks good for democrats in florida. hillary clinton leading trump by about four points at the top of the ticket. democrats running a huge ground operation in that state. and so, mystery, here s the mystery. why is the democratic party just pulled its money out of the senate race? last week, the campaign arm of the senate democrats canceled millions of dollars of florida ads they were going to run against marco rubio and for patrick murphy. that followed by a couple of weeks the biggest democratic super pac doing the same thing. why is that? i mean, i know that the democrats have to make choices. i get that, obviously. democrats want to win as many seats as possible advertising florida as expensive. the amount of money it takes to advertise a week in florida, you could spend the same amount of money and advertise in two or three cheaper states, states like north carolina or missouri. the timing and strategy of this is still weird. florida would really appear to be a winnable race for the dems. these are the last three polls. they ve either shown a tie or it s within two points. early voting has started in most florida counties. democrats are psyched with where they are. they believe they are ahead of where they were four years ago when romney beat obama in florida. the latino vote in florida is up, oh, i don t know, 99%, from this same point in the race four years ago. 99% increase in the latino vote. how do you think donald trump s going to do with the latino vote? by all objective measures, marco rubio would appear to be beatable in florida in a race which could determine control. he got shellacked there in the presidential primary. now, he s going to win there while donald trump likely loses the state? really? why are democrats giving up on this race? does it make sense? joining us now is steve, former state director for the 2008 obama campaign in florida and senior adviser in 2012, now a democratic strategist. mr. shell, it s really nice to have you here. thanks for having me on, rachel. do you think i mean, first of all, am i describing the democratic calculus here right, that it s so expensive to spend money in florida that maybe you re better off spending that money in the same states in is that basically the map that they are doing here or have they got other factors? they viewed this very anti-septically. the reality is, patrick murphy shouldn t be standing and i think they were right in september when down 7 or 8 points to slow walk the race. but the last four polls have shown even two and down one in two polls and down in another. we re basically in a dead heat. 14 days out, it s like it was and i don t understand the decision at this point. well, and is this the sort of thing where in these last two weeks money from the democratic party is what he needs? obviously you think that he s in shooting distance but in terms of what he needs to do to win, would tv ads and radio ads be the sort of thing that would make the difference here? yeah, absolutely. there s an old saying in florida that the win state you have to lose statewide and it comes from name i.d. or without money. murphy really shouldn t be standing. he s out 4-1 since the primary but he is. and what he needs is help with hispanics, which the president has cut an ad in spanish for him and needs help with name i.d. and the i-4 corridor. places li places like tampa and orlando and i think with the clinton turnout operation, today the early vote numbers and major i-4 counties are phenomenal for us. i mean, really almost shockingly good. i think he s right in this thing. in terms of the more personal picture here, it s also not that it s just any senator. it s marco rubio. yeah. and i wonder, within florida, having been beaten so badly in his home state primary, i mean, he lost the republican presidential primary badly but he really lost at home, what s marco rubio standing in the state and what are his long-term prospects as a politician coming from florida right now? well, i think there s two ways to look at it. first of all, if you look at our u.s. senate races, in the same term as presidential elections, our democratic nominees are usually within a point or two of the top of the ticket. the only exception is bill nelson who outperformed president obama in 2012. marco rubio is no bill nelson. he didn t get a majority of the year when he ran and, you know, we go into this thing and republicans acknowledge it s a race at this point and, again, i don t really want to have this conversation with you in 2019 and say, wow, if we had only spent 4, 5 million more, we could have taken him out when we had the chance. senior adviser, 2012, democratic strategist, steve, thanks for being with us. nice to see you. thanks again, rachel. all right. still ahead, some surprising and slightly nauseating news from a person who i think is the most surprising senate candidate of the year. that s ahead. stay with us. miles per ho. to wboth on the track matters. d thousands of miles away. wi t help of at&t, red bull racing can sha critical information about every inbrakes a gettingarm.tually anywhere. coirmed, daniel you need to cool your brakes. vi tm the agility to hek 2ally spee& precisn. becae no one knows & l at&t. 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[ laughter ] cool. he s pouring like fish bowls full of red wine there. the key to a happy retirement, everybody says, is to keep busy. now that john boehner has escaped washington and floor votes and object stin nant caucus goers, he can drink wine and take care of his lawn. also, hitting the open road in his rv on his youtube channel he says he s out in freedom one in this clip, that s the name of his rv, freedom one. he says he s, quote, somewhere upon america s asphalt prairie. retirement looks different for everybody, right? president obama is about to have his own political retirement, forcibly thrust upon him as of late january. we ve now got word that his retirement is apparently going to involve a lot more politics than what john boehner has been doing. we ve got some of that reporting ahead. stay with us. have fun with your replaced win. run away! [ grunts ] leave hi leaim! [ music continues ] brick and ar, what?! 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[thuder] [coughs] 1 in 750,00 [ding] woman p.a.: please fasten ur seatbelts for uxpected tubulee. the chces of being iold in a carrashre far greater than lightning strikes and plane crashes. and if y are texting ile driving, no i may be an unlucky guy but i don t have to be part of that statistic, and her doou drive reonsibly. 2008, republican political operatives started a project they called the redistricting majority project, red map for short. the idea behind red map was to flip as many state legislators from blue to red. and the timing was important because every ten years when they do the census, state legislators get to redraw election districts. in the lead-up to the 2010 midterm election, red map starting raising money to flip districts, to flip legislative seats, to approach that whole problem systematically. they raised a little over $30 million and that s a lot of money. it s not a ton of money for a political project. but here s the genius. instead of pumping that $30 million into high-profile senate and congressional districts and all of the big races, instead, they put all of that money into states where the legislators would have the most control over the redistricting process that was going to happen after the census. they focused scientifically on finding flipable seats in key legislatures around the country and because they were obscure races, they had to spend very little money to flip these seats. they flipped a bunch of these seemingly obscure seats in places like new york where they ended up losing control at the new york state senate and alabama, where they flipped the house and the senate from democratic control to republican control and they picked off these key seats that they targeted around the country, they executed this plan that basically had them strategizing all the way down the ballot, specifically so they could get control over redistricting. so by doing that in that low-profile way out of that one election, they were able to impact the results of their congressional districts for at least a decade, until the next census, in 2020. you want to know what everybody keeps saying, the way the house districts are drawn, even if the democrats have a huge night on november 8th, this is why. because the districts are drawn in the way they are drawn and they are drawn that way because of some genius political strategizing went in to who would be in power to redraw those districts. at a certain civic level, you probably hate this, right? redrawing congressional districts along party lines feels flat-out wrong but it is, in most cases, how the system is built and republicans really did pull off this amazing trick in 2010 with very little money and no hoopla and republicans have had nothing equivalent to this in their toolbox. after president obama won in 2008, republicans mobilized this little thing, they were able to mastermind it and execute this plan. it was political genius. mr. jankowski, welcome to genius week. i think you were a genius. president obama has 87 days last in office. he s almost done. we have now learned a little bit about what he s going to do next after leaving office. and so, behold, the national democratic redistricting committee. he s going to be focused on redistricting reform for democrats. they are going to organize initiatives and legal challenges to redistricting maps and push for democrats winning in down-ticket races. president obama s former attorney general eric holder is going to chair the group and president obama has decided he wants this to be the main political focus of his post-presidency life. redistricting. what a better time to start than now. and as of right now, president obama is taking his first presidential jab at those key down-ticket races. he s doing something he s never done before. this week, president obama is endorsing 150 candidates for state senate and senate assembly across 20 different states. he specifically is targeting state candidates who win might flip a state legislature. this is a huge effort. this is something that president obama has never done. it s something no president has ever done. but what does this mean for democrats down-ticket in this election cycle and in election cycles to come? is this a good answer which republicans did so effectively after president obama was first elected in 2008? how effective will this be? joining us now, steve kornacki, host of the 4:00 p.m. hour here on msnbc and an all-around smart man. how you doing? president obama is am i right to say that president obama is doing something that presidents otherwise haven t done? we ve never seen this kind of an effort systematically. yeah. we ve entered into a new era. it s on people s radar in a way it hasn t been before. it s a strategy and on the minds of democrats and they feel they need to do something. there s a structural component of this, too, where republicans can come up with a plan they came up with and they are sort of running downhill. they are at an advantage when you start talking about redistricting, when you start talking about congressional district lines or state legislative lines. this is the legacy of the obama era, how the two political coalitions have evolved. the democratic coalition right now probably has the numbers to win a national election. you talk about it all the time. it s young people, single women in particular, nonwhite voters, white collared professionals. those people more and more ever are packed more and more tightly into cities in metropolitan areas. the geographic reach, if you re talking about square miles, if you re talking about land mass, area, the geographic reach arguably has never been smaller. so the numbers are there but they are increasingly packed into smaller and smaller really into smaller numbers of districts. uh-huh. it s much easier, if you re a republican and want to draw lines to give yourself control of the state legislature or congressional map, it s much easier to do that because you don t have your voters aren t in these rural areas, you might not have 90% but you ve got 60%. democrats are sitting on 90% in a lot of here s the stat that i think explains the evolution of politics better than anything else. go back to 1988. michael dukakis got wiped out in a landslide loss. a solved victory for barack obama. he wins 690 counties. the gentlemen graphic share shrinks that much that in a big win they lost ground. if em democrats don t want to concede, that geographic is destiny. if they want to roll that stone up that hill, is this the way to do it, to try to be strategic about winnable seats, to try to flip legislatures in a way that s advantageous? absolutely. it s a longer-term question and the best news for democrats on that front is, look, in 2010, which is the legislatures that were seated is a result of the 2010 election. it was an off-year election and a mid term election with a democratic president. this is a democratic president. that recipe is the best thing republicans could ever hope for. . the next time that s going to happen, 2020, not a mid-term year. they have maybe more of an opportunity in 2020 than in 2010. and maybe by starting it in 2016 they ll get their training wheels on. exactly. lots more to come, stay with us. and i could take him behind the gym, that s what i wish. i westeish we were in high sl and i could take him behind the gym. apology presumably coming from the vice president s office in three, two let s check it. for saying on friday that he wishes he could take donald trump out behind the gym and teach him a lesson, joe biden would soon issue an apology. was that true or was that false? very false. not only did vice president joe biden not apologize for saying that, he said it again today in toledo, ohio. i ll get myself in trouble and say something like i d like to take him behind the gym if i were in high school. all kiddin aside, wouldn t you? i mean, for real. can you imagine a guy in the locker room talking that way and your sister s out there watching the game? not a joke. if i were in high school. i want to make it clear. i understand what assault is. i m not in high school. if i were in high school. i ued to be, i used to have a temper in high school. i don t have a temper anymore. i don t ever, nothing ever bother the me. look, folks. i get it, no. no. vice president clearly working it today, restraining himself, having a little fun, but in no way apologizing for saying that he wants to take donald trump behind the gym to teach him a lesson. our playfully pugilistic vice president. i was very wrong about that. we don t know who the next vice president will be. but tomorrow night we will have a chance on this show to get a really close look at the leading contender. democratic vice president nominee tim kaine will be joining us exclusively here in studio. senator kae eoe eor kaine has b before, but we ve not talked to him since he s running for vp. i m very much looking forward to that. that s tomorrow night. stay with us. using 60,000 ps fr my cse ink card i bought all the framework. wire.. and ts a face. no one wilforget. learn more at chase.com/in no one wilforget. esurance does auto insurance a smdiscnt.. they offer a claime beuse ferivers cost less to iure, which saves mey. and when they save, you save. th s auto home inscefor the mod. esurance, an allstate company. ance does auto insurance a smarter way. like tir photoims ol. hpsete your claim quy, whh sas timewhh ves money.d when they save, you sav. that suto and home insuran r thmodern world. esurance, an allstate company. ick or cal from the creatve galaxy in my idea box would yohelp me make a each one of our journeys eeps us youn y, i have an idea! wear: go be amazngder. amazing! announcer: give your caboard box another life. trust number oneoctor recommended lcolax constipated? use dulcolax tablets for gentle overnight relief suppositories for reef in minutes and stool softeners for comfortable relief of hard odulcolax, desied for dependable rie we ve been keeping track here at the show of newspaper endorsements in the presidential race. it s been a weird year for that. the names listed on the left are a selection of hillary clinton s formal daily newspaper endorsements. she has a lot of them. the last time we reported on trump endorsements, he had three, one each from tiny papers in santa barbara, california, waxahachie daily light in texas. you guys have been super helpful at tracking these endorsements, particularly, when they re really tiny papers. send us tips, please. it s been very helpful. tonight thanks to you guys we can add the times gazette. there s also for the first time, a big one. shelton adeleson, a big league republican donor, funded the gingrich campaign all by himself in 2012. this winter, when a paper got a mystery owner, it was the las vegas review journal s own staff who was forced to ferret out their own owner. that was sheldon adeleson. it s not at all weird for super rich people to give money to political candidates nor weird for them to buy newspapers. it was weird that he tried to buy and run a newspaper anonymously, but his reporting staff caught him. he went into this election cycle planning to donate $100 million