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organization. because after all, trump is so wealthy, michael cohen said that a big part of his job is tied small creditors who did business with trump that they were going to get paid, and forcing them to accept whatever modest sums trump would give them. the enterprise corruption statute, targeted just this kind of behavior. using a pattern of criminal behavior to increase and entities criminal power, enabling it to inflict greater social harm. you describe that consideration, of using state eco charges against donald trump. you, say the task of building out the proof, the whole enterprise of corruption was simply too ambitious for the human investigative bandwidth we had. and, otherwise you think at the substance of the trade, there but it's simply too hard to do. >> one of the things he needs to be remembered, --

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we were looking at instance after instance of suspected illegal conduct. of course, they had to be provable, but if they were proved their collective weight left no doubt in my mind that trump deserved to be prosecuted. measures short of criminal prosecution had been used against trump, and he had dismissed them as trivial. looking at the totality of trump's conduct over the years i thought it was crystal clear that measures short of criminal prosecution meant nothing to him and would not deter him in the slightest from engaging in other anti-social behavior. indeed, the more successful he became, the more brazen was his behavior, he'd stiffed many contractors and small business owners who decided to advance services or products to the trump organization because, after all, donald trump was so wealthy. michael cohen had told us that a big part of his job was telling small credit tors who did business with trump that they weren't going to get paid and forcing them to accept whatever modest sups trump would give them. the enterprise corruption statute targeted just this kind of behavior using a pattern of criminal activity to increase an

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wealthy. michael cohen had told us that a big part of his job was telling small credit tors who did business with trump that they weren't going to get paid and forcing them to accept whatever modest sups trump would give them. the enterprise corruption statute targeted just this kind of behavior using a pattern of criminal activity to increase an entity's economic power enabling it to inflict greater social harm. mr. pomerantz, you describe that consideration of using state rico charges essentially against trump but then you say, quote, the task of building out the proof on the whole pattern of enterprise corruption was simply too ambitious for the human and investigative bandwidth we had. in other words, you think you have the substance of a case there but it was basically too hard to do given the resources of the d.a.'s office, is that fair? >> it is fair. one of the things that people need to remember is that the district attorney for new york county is a local prosecutor's office. this is not the kind of special

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20210528:08:38:00

that weisselberg has served her an eviction notice after she has continued to speak out about what she knows. >> has there been any back lash or retribution? >> yes, yes. allen weisselberg is on my lease. yesterday i was served to leave my apartment within the next seven days. so that's a threat. a threat. there's definitely tax fraud. definitely tax evasion. i think that there is a lot of, for the first time, they seem really nervous. >> that news today comes as former prosecutors and legal experts tell politico that manhattan d.a. cy vance could be considering a criminal charge that says the trump organization is a corrupt enterprise under a new york law resembling the federal racketeering statute known as rico. that new york law called the enterprise corruption statute and sometimes called little rico can be invoked with as little as three crimes involved and can

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20210528:01:39:00

enterprise corruption statute and sometimes called little rico can be inswroekd as little as three crimes involved and can carry a prison term of up to 25 years, along with a mandatory minimum of one to three years. abc news and cnn have already reported that several witnesses have already been gaktd appearing in front of the special grand jury with at least one told to be prepared to testify. one of the people quoted in the washington postal's tuesday night school about the existence of that special grand jury was rebecca, a former district attorney in manhattan, who said prosecutors in her former office were unlikely to take this key step without evidence, and probable cause to believe that someone committed a crime. joining me now, rebecca, a professor at new york law school who previously served as an stand district attorney in the manhattan office. thank you for being with us. we have a lot to sort of pick

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