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Turns out to be. >> one might argue jeb bush is the most dialed back candidate that one could imagine. that also doesn't sort of -- >> and governor kasich as well. very strong, sensible leadership. people want an establishment candidate who can come in from the outside and shake things up in washington. people are disgusted with washington. but the type of tone that you've seen from donald trump and dr. carson -- dr. carson's vulnerability now was he was always this truthful candidate, called it like it was, even tempered. now he's -- it's all into question. >> you got kasich and jeb bush both...

>> the old saw is that a debate can't make a campaign but it can certainly kill one. and usually it's a stumble, an oops moment like rick perry had that debates are known for and have some impact. the idea here is we don't know about these debates because this is such an unprecedented situation on the republican side. we haven't had a candidate like a donald trump who came from the outside and is commanding such support, which is not wavering, and he's the reason we're watching all these debates and all these other candidates, there's no establishment candidate who is emerging from that part o...

Katie packer and jonathan chait are still with us. josh, looking at these numbers, consistently every time a new poll comes out, carson or trump at the top, it feels to the establishment and the media, it's going through the looking glass. i mean, this is counter to all the narratives we hear. this week it's marco rubio but you look and it's ben carson getting 50% of the vote. >> yes, so it's 52% when you add it together the support for donald trump and ben carson, then you have ted cruz even though he's a u.s. senator, obviously not an establishment candidate. and people say, well, it's been ...

I mean, this is counter to all the narratives we hear. this week it's marco rubio but you look and it's ben carson getting 50% of the vote. >> yes, so it's 52% when you add it together the support for donald trump and ben carson, then you have ted cruz even though he's a u.s. senator, obviously not an establishment candidate. and people say, well, it's been like this before. herman cain led the polls in 2012. the combined totals for the candidates are so high and the combined totals for the establishment candidates are so low. i do think there's a correct thing in the narrative which is there ...

Are you going to be a gun safety rep or revert back to what you did when you were representing vermont? one of the reasons hillary clinton is raising this issue is because it's a clear distinction between her and bernie. who are you going to represent then? are you going to be a gun safety rep or revert back to what you did when you were representing vermont? one of the reasons hillary clinton is raising this issue is because it's a clear distinction between her and bernie. there aren't that many. >> you always want to go where the other person can't go. she is going there. it's nervy on her. ...