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Games. help us out here. what's going on? >> you know, it's kind of hypocritical of them because they actually have been attacking each other all week and all of a sudden lock, this is just a fact. all of them cannot be president. biden has been getting attacked. him and booker have been going back and forth. bernie and elizabeth are fighting for the heart and soul of the democratic socialist lean of the party. and so this is them essentially crew to get their vote essentially. >> talked about biden getting attacked. we have an interesting op-ed headline from the "new york post" check it out. ...

>> yes. >> the issues are what we is talking about. >> nobody has heard of talmidge in washington. >> that's the whole point. he had to go back to the stone age. >> bret: why not say i work with dick luger from indiana and we were great friends? >> this is what you have when you have a guy who arrived in washington in 1972 and this is part of his frame of reference. the point being that he was -- he's a gaffe machine. he was trying to make the point we should be working across the aisle with people we disagree. he was not arguing for segbrasion. -- segregation. before this happened, he got sla...

Democrats. in the end that is either genius or total folly. you only know by the outcome. one thing i think is interesting is that on one hand he is a gaffe machine and you say, "that doesn't really matter anymore because we sort of ripped the plastic off the president and we know that those are human beings, so it doesn't matter." but he is trying to run as all of our moral superior. so he says he stands in front of the troutdale video and he says , "let's return to civility and decorum." that's not who i think of him as being. he's the guy who says something inappropriate and gets away with ...

Of times and he's never been able to make it there, denomination, on his own. he is a gaffe machine. he has diarrhea of the mouth. he says all this crazy stuff. people look at him and say he's like donald trump because he says things no one expects him to say. >> julie: i was about to make that comment! >> charlie: the difference is joe biden often says things that are patently stupid, whereas i think donald trump says things that i probably may be a little more honest then you are supposed to say in politics. everything is supposed to be -- so i don't think trump is a gaffe machine the way --...

Yes, our workers may be more productive overall, but that doesn't get us anywhere to solve the problem that china poses. it's a threat in this century. no doubt about it. >> shannon: he hasn't been on the campaign trail as much as the others. people speculate it's better for him to stay home because he stirs up controversy every time he talks. >> did you notice in his voice? i like joe biden but he is prone to say almost anything. he's always been a gaffe machine and blurts things out and has to straighten them out later. it may be a good strategy to keep him off the trail. he may be staying o...