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Hello and welcome to crossfire all things are considered im Peter Lavelle we are witnessing the rise of a new secular religion and its called the focus at the moment in that short history its goal in racism why well everything is now considered racist the believers in this cold demand obedience and so criticism were really never told how racism is to be eradicated or how it helps serve the interests of working people of all. To discuss this and more im joined by my guest john de bar in bristol she is the deputy leader of the Workers Party of britain as well as author of the drive to war against russia and china her forthcoming book is identity politics and class and in budapest we have George Samuel he is author of bombs for peace natos humanitarian war on yugoslavia right across our girls in effect that means you can jump ....
Hello and welcome to cross town where all things are considered im Peter Lavelle we are witnessing the rise of a new secular religion and its called the focus at the moment in that short history its goal is to end racism why well everything is now considered racist the believers in this called demand obedience insult criticism but were really never told how racism is to be eradicated or how it helps serve the interests of working people of all colors. To discuss this and more im joined by my guest john to bar in bristol she is the deputy leader of the Workers Party of britain as well as off the road the drive to war against russia and china her forthcoming book is identity politics and class and in budapest we have George Samuel he is author of bombs for peace natos humanitarian war on you it was right across our girls in t ....
Deputy leader of the Workers Party of britain as well as arthur wrote the drive to war against russia and china her forthcoming book is identity politics and class and in budapest we have George Samuel he is author of bombs for peace natos humanitarian war and he was right across our girls in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate it ok lets go to bristol jody what do you look you make of this new secular religion because that its kind of quasi christian you know a little bit compose theres a little bit of it eventually mentalists style. And you know it has on with this ritual walls it has its humes it has its clergy it has its script sure. And its making everybody miserable and it has nothing to do with fighting racism go ahead. Well i think its the last point that i am really interested in its do we want to fight racism and of course the an ....
From moscow thanks for joining us today on r. T. International welcome to the program. A top Level Exchange of accusations and rebuffs is raising the stakes over the sudden and so far unexplained illness of prominent opposition activist Alexei Navalny government spokesman to meet the press corps 5 dismissed all allegations of russian state involvement in the case as unacceptable absurd in their very nature it is just the latest retaught saw and trade statements but im correspondent joins us live now with more peter thanks for joining us now ever since this saga started. Calls. Should the russian gas to Europe Nordstrom to do you think the 2 are connected in any way. Well the German Government press briefing the lunchtime press briefing wrapped up on monday pepp ....
Go ahead. Well i think its the last point that i am really interested in its do we want to fight racism and of course the answer to most of us is yes but to fight racism you have to understand where does racism come from whats the cause of racism these symbols of an exploiting society do of course represent the fact that it is an exploitative society what that reminds us is this society is not our society its run it is made up of run by and for a tiny exploiting class and of course they heroes are the ones who are celebrated in the culture that they call ours which is really this and of course for the mass of the workers and exploited around the world these people are not heroes ok but its a reminder of a material reality that we live in a world of exploiters and exploited and that is what is the cause of racism racism comes from the need to divide workers against one another it comes from the need of the imperialists in particular to justify their walls and their colonial conquests on ....