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he has relationship with some of these world leaders for decades and he never thought that he would hear that and so you hear him say that, you hear him talk about it. another part of it too how unprecedented, how unprecedented that moment was on january 6th when a mob of 2000-person mob went to the capitol because they were lied to about the results of the election. because they wanted to overturn the election. so, just really want to make sure that we get that, that we understand why -- the reason he was telling that story and look, you know, look, as it relates to the names and wh...

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Is necessarily the criteria, but on a go forward basis in the future when you're privileged to certain circumstances that would be embarrassing to the principle, that if it is official, that you shared with the ambassador but the folks outside the embassy or folks in the embassy who don't have a need to know, that you wouldn't reveal them with your recounting of those instances? >> sir, i think it was gordon sondland who showed a discretion by having that conversation over the phone line. >> meanwhile president trump on twitter questioned homes' ability to have overheard his cell phone convers...

>> absolutely, this is a ripple effect. what you're having right now is, you know, all of these federal employees did not get paid on friday. money is the motivator here. money, you know, working without pay, going into an unpaid unappreciated status, you know, hurts morale. when you have an organization that has low morale, there's a possibility that you can start creeping into complacency. when i was in the secret service, our methodology was complacency kills. for the individual what we don't want is for morale to be low and then coming complacent and going through the motions. that's where...

We weren't involved in this. chairman goodlatte walked our members through how this worked. i'd refer you to him. >> when you talk about the role of congress, these are temporary measures. do you plan to pass any measures? the trump administration is looking at further immigration limits? what do you have planned in the works and when were you told specifically about this order? some of the members said they were -- >> pretty much at the time it was being issued. i don't know specifically. we were briefed on the contents of it as it was being rolled out. and i had a conversation with secretary...