oprah: there needs to be--we need a whole show on it. >> yes. oprah: yes, and what would be the number one and number two rules? >> um, when someone is talking, you cannot look at your blackberry. oprah: period. >> period. right? [applause] oprah: yes. >> it's kind of like you go into a hardware store to get something, and you ask the guy, and then the phone rings, and he goes, "hang on a second." well, wait a minute. i showed up, you know what i mean? i'm here. oprah: yes, yes. >> no, no, no. you wait because the phone. oprah: yes. >> but prioritizing real humans... oprah: yes. >> v...