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One of the most consequential second amendment cases in the history of the republic. about a decade ago in the heller decision the court said yes, an individual has a right to bear arms and then some lower courts have chipped away and made that look like maybe that's just for the home. this case is about making sure you have the right to bear arms outside the home. new york's restrict -f regime you have have to prove to a bureaucrat that you have a special circumstance. the constitution doesn't contemplate that. it's a fundamental right. it's a right to defend yourself and we believe in this c...

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Anywhere. >> shannon: correct, we know the heller decision was a big step in second amendment jurisprudence, what is the potential here? i know chief justice roberts tends to keep the court more narrow in some of these decisions, what is the potential impact beyond new york for gunowners across the country? >> it depends on how broad the ruling is, essentially there are 12 or 14 states that have rules and laws similar to new york. if it's an overreaching decision, it can possibly change the gun laws throughout those states and make concealed carry outside of the home waffle. >> shannon: i want...

Bit more about what the ruling said and the judge and his language and choice of words. and he said this is an average case about average guns used in average ways for average purposes. one is to be forgiven if one is persuaded by news, media and others that the nation is awash in murderous ar-15 riflesch the facts, however, do not support this hyperbole and facts matter. >> yes, facts do matter. i completely agree with him. look, in the heller decision, the last supreme court decision of any note on this when justice scalia wrote the majority, he talked about assault style weapons in that cas...

California governor newsom said in reference to that comparison to the judge's decision, the swiss army knife comparison. gavin newsom saying it completely undermines the credibility of this decision and is a slap in the face to the families who have lost loved ones to this weapon. so what is your reaction to this decision by this judge? >> it infuriates me. i'm honestly not much surprises me kbnl in american life, but the words used in his decision are just shocking to me. you know, we have suffered a string of mass shootings across this country. it's even wrong to say a string. there are peo...