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Decision as to what is in your interest, i want to see that you talked to somebody who is conflict-free, and they went to the federal defenders, and in our experience are really wonderful lawyers. a lot of people think just because they're free, they're not good. they tend to be really excellent counsel, and that's what you saw happen. and what you're putting your finger on and what is unfortunate is this is so common in any case where there is a crime that's committed by a group and there's a real hierarchy, and it's a real problem in the law. it's in mob cases, in corporate cases. it's in pu...

Former presidents political operation. he is representing walt nauta, who is the former presidents aide, close aide, who is also a co defendant in this case. and, he is representing a couple of witnesses, who may be called to testify at this trial. and, what emerges in this filing is, it sort of gives an explanation of why prosecutors added those additional charges against the former president. and, against these other aides. and, they say this information came from this i. t. worker. his name is use -- yuscil taveras and he was also represented by stan woodward, the same trump funded lawyer. ...

Believed that donald trump would be guilty of obstructing justice other than everyone? i mean, you go back and you look at the mueller investigation and he talks about in the mueller investigation, the multiple acts of obstruction of justice by donald trump. but they weren't -- because he was president and they weren't going to prosecute it, the multiple acts of obstruction by donald trump. you look at this documents case, the fbi, the doj, they asked for the information, trump and his lawyers lie, they obstruct justice, this is barr said is what's going to end up getting trump and we have thi...

Advantage of getting his legal fees paid, apparently. but this speaks to a bigger question, which we have known for quite a while. -- with donald trump loyalty is a one-way street. and as long as rudy was getting the job done for him, whatever that was along the way, he kept rudy close. now it has not worked out that way. what is, i think, crazy about it, from donald trump's perspective is, whether it is rudy giuliani or jenna ellis, who has also come out and ask asked for -- she has a gofundme page -- these are codefendants. they can turn on donald trump. they can flip. that makes it dangerou...

Accomplishments we have seen in the past, when he was u.s. attorney, years and years and years ago, he still needs a lawyer. he is charged with serious crimes in georgia and he has been unnamed in an indictment. but -- identified as a coconspirator in the federal january 6th case, and so he certainly has lawyers engaged in january 6th case, or at least he did -- he went in and talked with the special counsel at some point in time. he's going to need lawyers in georgia. and he's going to need an attorney in georgia that can handle this case. this case is going to be very motion intensive and it...