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Concerns. No, he said he did so because secretary perry wanted the two leaders to discuss a natural gas project. And for his part, rick perry says it was all about energy and not at all about joe biden or his son. Absolutely, i asked the president multiple times, mr. President , we think it is in the United States and in in ukraines best interest that you and the president of ukraine have conversations, that you discuss the options that are there, absolutely, yes. Dana bash is in washington, dana, this transcript we have all read, shows trump and saturdzielinski never discussed energy issue on...

Good to be with you this morning, im Frances Rivera in new york at msnbc world headquarters. It is 7 00 in the east, 4 00 out west and here is whats happening. The president and the impeachment fight. New takes on whats at stake, plus where Public Opinion is leaning right now. When the president obstructs and the white house stone walls, its going to be very difficult to meet these timelines. The democrats really need to get this right. Our democracy is in grave danger. Its never happened in american history. No president has ever been removed from office. Overseas new clashes in hong kong ahe...

Face to face, and saying his or her source is a spy? >> the critical issue when you blow the whistle is you need to make sure that you're actually performing at 120%. every opportunity that's out there for somebody to take advantage of your situation, they may try to do that. and then the critical thing, and my experience was unique, because it was within the ig community, there were a number of people who were allegedly or reprised against who were ig staff, it's hard to get at those issues, because the ig's are supposed to do the investigations. how can they do them if they're not reprisers?...

Himself from this whole thing because you have rudy giuliani who has very very vocal about this. in an interview he just read his personal text messages. it's been argued he's trying to further implicate the state department and hoping to draw attention away from himself. glen, how serious of a problem is this for the state department? >> you know, i think it could be a real problem for the state department because the summary, not transcript of the call, but the summary of the call that we now have seen shows that the president is engaged in improperly trying to extract something from the pre...